[W:108:129]Colorado baker back in court after refusing to make cake celebrating gender transition

trixare4kids · Dec 21, 2018

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MateoMtnClimber said:
"Stop your whining" are the exact same three words that the majority power holders told women and racial minorities for the entire history of the US. Thank you for reminding us that discrimination is alive and well and that those who suffer from it should "stop whining".

It would have been nice if you addressed the context in my post Instead of giving me a smarmy lecture but suit yourself.

lurchadams · Dec 21, 2018

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truthatallcost said:
Autumn Scardina just so happens to be a lawyer, as well as transgender. Her online attorney profile reads, "After a decade of successfully representing large corporations and governmental entities as a trial attorney, she opened Scardina Family Law".

When will these scam artists leave the poor baker alone? Just let him run his bakery. Every quack looking for a quick buck is going to hunt out his cake shop now to order a cake celebrating their mental illness, in order to sue him. Just stop already.

The baker is obviously a very unhappy, frustrated, closeted homosexual. The poor guy crave's c**k so much his refusal to serve gay and transgender folks is simply his way of acting out his own personal frustration.

Grim17 · Dec 21, 2018

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MateoMtnClimber said:
Section 24-34-601 of the Colorado Revised Statutes. The way you phrased your question is disingenious and not the subject of the lawsuit, but nevertheless, the case law is established.

I read that statute and could not find where it stated that a business must provide services for any events or functions that a customer might request. Nowhere did it state that a business owner didn't have the right to refuse to service specific events. Based on what I read, the statute deals with protecting groups and individuals from discrimination based on disability, race, creed, color, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, national origin, or ancestry.

Since I couldn't find it, could you please paste the relevant portion of the statute where it states that a business must accommodate all events and functions that any customer might request?

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lurchadams · Dec 21, 2018

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Roadvirus said:
This guy should just fold his business.

In this victim-packed society, it's not worth the hassles.

The guy obviously wishes "his business" could be inside another man. Poor, frustrated bigot!

Grim17 · Dec 21, 2018

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lurchadams said:
The baker is obviously a very unhappy, frustrated, closeted homosexual. The poor guy crave's c**k so much his refusal to serve gay and transgender folks is simply his way of acting out his own personal frustration.

That's the tolerance we've all come to expect from progressives.

Keep up the good work.

Praxas · Dec 21, 2018

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Grim17 said:
That's the tolerance we've all come to expect from progressives.

Keep up the good work.

Grim17, it's ok if you're gay, it's 2018. Just come out and admit it already. There is not shame for a conservative like yourself that likes ****.

truthatallcost · Dec 21, 2018

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lurchadams said:
The baker is obviously a very unhappy, frustrated, closeted homosexual. The poor guy crave's c**k so much his refusal to serve gay and transgender folks is simply his way of acting out his own personal frustration.

I've often heard the line of reasoning you used (although phrased in a less retarded manner) and it doesn't hold water. It'd be like saying Islamophobes secretly wish they were Muslim, or KKK members wish they were really black. Ludicrous, yet whenever a man says he disagrees with the LGBT lifestyle, there you are to call him a faggot. Bizarre.

Kal'Stang · Dec 21, 2018

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truthatallcost · Dec 21, 2018

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Bodhisattva said:
What part of the Bible talks about scorning transgender people?

The baker didn't scorn anyone by turning down a request. But answer this, if you would: who orders a cake to celebrate their gender transitioning? Doesn't that strike you as odd?

lurchadams · Dec 21, 2018

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Grim17 said:
That's the tolerance we've all come to expect from progressives.

Keep up the good work.

It's not progressives that are denying good as services services to people based on their personal preferences my friend, but nice try!

lurchadams · Dec 21, 2018

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truthatallcost said:
I've often heard the line of reasoning you used (although phrased in a less retarded manner) and it doesn't hold water. It'd be like saying Islamophobes secretly wish they were Muslim, or KKK members wish they were really black. Ludicrous, yet whenever a man says he disagrees with the LGBT lifestyle, there you are to call him a faggot. Bizarre.

Nope. Terrible analogy. Xenophobic and racist people are simply full of fear and hate - a common trait among people who call themselves "social conservatives". Your personal attack on me is yet another demonstration of how sexually frustrated people behave. Just come on out. It's 2018. Love who you want. You'll have a home in the progressive community. Only conservatives hide behind "religious freedom" in an attempt to conceal their fear and hatred.

Grim17 · Dec 21, 2018

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lurchadams said:
It's not progressives that are denying good as services services to people based on their personal preferences my friend, but nice try!

Who's doing that? It certainly isn't Jack Phillips, who only refused to create a custom cake for an event that violates the tenets of his religious beliefs.

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trouble13 · Dec 21, 2018

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Media_Truth said:
I would think that the White House chefs should refuse to serve Trump, because he is an unrepentant adulterer.

Your post shows you lack a basic understanding of the bakers position.

He serves gays and trans at his shop. What he refuses to do is create products that celebrate things that are contradictory to his beliefs.

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SDET · Dec 21, 2018

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lurchadams said:
Nope. Terrible analogy. Xenophobic and racist people are simply full of fear and hate - a common trait among people who call themselves "social conservatives". Your personal attack on me is yet another demonstration of how sexually frustrated people behave. Just come on out. It's 2018. Love who you want. You'll have a home in the progressive community. Only conservatives hide behind "religious freedom" in an attempt to conceal their fear and hatred.

You say that until some guy starts picking up chicks on the Malecon in Havana.

X Factor · Dec 21, 2018

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Nickyjo said:
I think I agree. Why bother torment this guy? Someday soon, he’ll discover that a close friend is gay or a kid or other relative is gay. He’ll then come around and eventually march in gay pride parade. A mischevious God has a way of confounding us.

It happened to me. I had a really close friend come out to me and I learned a lot. I haven’t ever walked in a gay pride event, but I really think I would if she asked me to walk alongside her.

lurchadams · Dec 22, 2018

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SDET said:
You say that until some guy starts picking up chicks on the Malecon in Havana.

There's a huge difference between a "consenting adult" and an "exploited adult". People that capitalize on another's misfortune wouldn't understand the difference.

AGENT J · Dec 22, 2018

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trixare4kids said:
It would have been nice if you addressed the context in my post Instead of giving me a smarmy lecture but suit yourself.

Translation: your description of whining completely failed and you have nothing but deflections since your stance is indefensible.

AGENT J · Dec 22, 2018

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trouble13 said:
Your post shows you lack a basic understanding of the bakers position.

He serves gays and trans at his shop. What he refuses to do is create products that celebrate things that are contradictory to his beliefs.

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Translation: he wants to illegally discriminate, break the law and and violate the rights of others and NOT get in trouble...
(now like i said earlier though THIS suit doesn't seem sound at all but all marriage ones are nonsense and nothing more than illegal discrimination and bigotry)

trixare4kids · Dec 22, 2018

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AGENT J said:
Translation: your description of whining completely failed and you have nothing but deflections since your stance is indefensible.

I wasn't talking to you but thanks for your thoughts of plenty.

AGENT J · Dec 22, 2018

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trixare4kids said:
I wasn't talking to you but thanks for your thoughts of plenty.

Doesn't matter how you were talking too multiple posters destroyed your inane hypocritical claims and you cant back them up with any logic whatsoever hence the continued dodging and deflecting. LMAO

truthatallcost · Dec 22, 2018

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lurchadams said:
Nope. Terrible analogy. Xenophobic and racist people are simply full of fear and hate - a common trait among people who call themselves "social conservatives". Your personal attack on me is yet another demonstration of how sexually frustrated people behave. Just come on out. It's 2018. Love who you want. You'll have a home in the progressive community. Only conservatives hide behind "religious freedom" in an attempt to conceal their fear and hatred.

Get lost. You were already warned by a moderator to stop with the silly accusations, but now you're doubling down to accuse me of being gay. Your pathetic attempts at slander are not aimed at debating anyone, and you should be removed from this thread.

Bodi · Dec 22, 2018

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truthatallcost said:
The baker didn't scorn anyone by turning down a request. But answer this, if you would: who orders a cake to celebrate their gender transitioning? Doesn't that strike you as odd?

You said it was a religious belief... what part of the Bible talks about transgendered people at all?

...and odd or not I could care less... people can get a cake for any ****ing reason that they want to...

truthatallcost · Dec 22, 2018

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Bodhisattva said:
You said it was a religious belief...

Post #?

what part of the Bible talks about transgendered people at all?

You're trying to prove something based on a technicality. I'm not sure transgender people were allowed in the era which the bible was written, or whether they existed. It's probable that the Jewish authorities would have kept something like that from being openly displayed in public, as the time and place was vastly different from today.

...and odd or not I could care less... people can get a cake for any ****ing reason that they want to...

So let's say I walk into a bakery and ask for a red cake with a big black swastika in the center of it. The baker turns me down. Still support my right to have my order processed?

Bodi · Dec 22, 2018

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truthatallcost said:
Post #?

You're trying to prove something based on a technicality. I'm not sure transgender people were allowed in the era which the bible was written, or whether they existed. It's probable that the Jewish authorities would have kept something like that from being openly displayed in public, as the time and place was vastly different from today.

So let's say I walk into a bakery and ask for a red cake with a big black swastika in the center of it. The baker turns me down. Still support my right to have my order processed?

The baker should ask what the Swastica is for... if it is for a Nazi rally then yes, as hate speech is illegal... if it is for a buddhist occasion then no, they could not refuse it.

truthatallcost · Dec 22, 2018

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Bodhisattva said:
The baker should ask what the Swastica is for... if it is for a Nazi rally then yes, as hate speech is illegal... if it is for a buddhist occasion then no, they could not refuse it.

Then you don't really believe this then-

Bodhisattva said:
...and odd or not I could care less... people can get a cake for any ****ing reason that they want to...

You endorse discrimination as long as it's against people you disagree with too. Just like the baker in the OP. Congrats.

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