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    Re: Colorado baker back in court after refusing to make cake celebrating gender transition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    You think it's "freedom" to force a person to do something they don't want to do? That sounds more like something that a communist country would do.

    The only freedom being abridged is the baker's. He is being forced by law to create something that's against his beliefs, and it was all a set up to begin with.

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    He was free to open a business to the public or not KNOWING that a business open to the public must serve all the public.

    He is a bigot and homophobe...

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    Re: Colorado baker back in court after refusing to make cake celebrating gender transition

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He was free to open a business to the public or not KNOWING that a business open to the public must serve all the public.

    He is a bigot and homophobe...
    Again, he did not refuse to serve anyone. He declined to create an event-specific, custom cake.

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    Re: Colorado baker back in court after refusing to make cake celebrating gender transition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Oppress nice people? Do you realize who the person is that asked for that cake in the first place and filed the complaint against Phillips?

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    This entire thing is a farce... a set up by a transgender activist trying to destroy a man because of his religious beliefs.

    Is that really who you want to support and stand behind?

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    Based on the surrounding facts, its likely that the baker will win this case, as he should. Its an obvious instance of harassment and only the most mindless committed leftist assholes would see it as otherwise once the complete facts are known. Sadly...there are plenty of those worthless ****s around.

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    Re: Colorado baker back in court after refusing to make cake celebrating gender transition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Again, he did not refuse to serve anyone. He declined to create an event-specific, custom cake.

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    That is declining service in a creative way...

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    Re: Colorado baker back in court after refusing to make cake celebrating gender transition

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Based on the surrounding facts, its likely that the baker will win this case, as he should. Its an obvious instance of harassment and only the most mindless committed leftist assholes would see it as otherwise once the complete facts are known. Sadly...there are plenty of those worthless ****s around.
    Saying it is only mindless assholes probably helps you feel better about it even though there are tons of regular normal people that see bigotry...

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    Re: Colorado baker back in court after refusing to make cake celebrating gender transition

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    That is declining service in a creative way...
    The problem with you and others who side with the transgender activist, is that you believe the baker to be a bigot and therefore he's automatically guilty regardless of the law. The thing is, the law matters.

    The baker didn't refuse to sell him the baked goods he offers, he refused to create a specialty item that he's never created in the past and isn't comfortable creating now. That is not the same as refusing service and doesn't violate Colorado's public accommodation laws.

    Regardless of your opinion of the baker, he has a right to his religious and moral beliefs.

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    Re: Colorado baker back in court after refusing to make cake celebrating gender transition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    The problem with you and others who side with the transgender activist, is that you believe the baker to be a bigot and therefore he's automatically guilty regardless of the law. The thing is, the law matters.

    The baker didn't refuse to sell him the baked goods he offers, he refused to create a specialty item that he's never created in the past and isn't comfortable creating now. That is not the same as refusing service and doesn't violate Colorado's public accommodation laws.

    Regardless of your opinion of the baker, he has a right to his religious and moral beliefs.

    I agree and I believe that the entire point of this exercise is that the activist didn't even care about the cake. He was likely targeting the baker to try and make his point. In fact, this case smells like double jeopardy as the baker was previously cleared.

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    Re: Colorado baker back in court after refusing to make cake celebrating gender transition

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Saying it is only mindless assholes probably helps you feel better about it even though there are tons of regular normal people that see bigotry...
    Saying it just points out the facts and reality. The idiot that is bringing the suit is a twat. His intent is to harass. Anyone that supports the twat in his harassment is an idiot.

    I dont much give a **** as to your definition of 'bigotry'. Times, opinions...hell...history has changed over the last few years based on nothing more than politics and agenda. Up until just a few years ago, the psychiatric community labelled transgendered people as mentally ill. The only things that has changed is the politics of political correctness. Up until a few years ago, the head of the democrat party and elected president of the country opposed gay marriage. Most idiot leftists were fine with that. U[ until the middle of a presidential campaign, the head of the democrat party and their candidate in the 2016 election similarly opposed gay marriage and everyone was pretty much fine with that. Oh...make no mistake. Plenty of leftists **** themselves over CONSERVATIVES that opposed gay marriage. But hey...that was 'different'.

    As for the baker...I personally disagree with his business practice...but respect his right to his beliefs. Now Bodhi...if you think a 56 year old man that thinks he is 7 year old little girl is 'normal'...thats all fine and good. If you think people that dont believe you can change your gender just because gosh darn it...you FEEL that way...are bigots...have a ****ing ball. I reckon if it makes you feel better about yourself, go ahead.

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    Re: Colorado baker back in court after refusing to make cake celebrating gender transition

    Quote Originally Posted by Skeptic Bob View Post
    OMG, why are people so obsessed with getting their cakes made by this bigot?! Just leave him alone and go give your money to someone who doesn’t hate your lifestyle. Our courts are spending way too much time on freaking cakes. Are there no other bakers in Denver? What gives?
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    Re: Colorado baker back in court after refusing to make cake celebrating gender transition

    Quote Originally Posted by lurchadams View Post
    Nope. Terrible analogy. Xenophobic and racist people are simply full of fear and hate - a common trait among people who call themselves "social conservatives". Your personal attack on me is yet another demonstration of how sexually frustrated people behave. Just come on out. It's 2018. Love who you want. You'll have a home in the progressive community. Only conservatives hide behind "religious freedom" in an attempt to conceal their fear and hatred.
    That's why Phillips is being targeted because of his religious beliefs.
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