[W:162]Alan Dershowitz: Mueller's final report 'is going to be devastating' for Trump

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EnigmaO01 said:

So you speak for the vast majority of Americans now? :lamo

Not sure a vast majority even care about Hillary anymore and your fictions espionage claims.

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Most I am reasonably sure would prefer that the hildabeast walk off into the sunset never to be heard from again.

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ObamacareFail said:

Much like the librul morons who still think Trump colluded with the Russians.

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I didn't realize that had been settled yet. When did Mueller release his report? Link, please.

Conservative said:

Name calling and getting personal is what you always do when confused by data, facts, logic, and common sense. How exactly has Trump hurt you, your family, or the country. Results matter not what he says nor your perception. Your party nominated another incompetent but worse than Obama. Trouble is you aren't capable of doing any research to verify what you are being told nor do you care. To you it is all about personality and a need to be liked. Suggest you work on your own

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You must be very confused then because that is what you do here every time someone upsets your little dreamworld. Watch the video and you might actually learn something. But I doubt it.

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ObamacareFail said:

Was not just that he defeated her, it was that he as a political novice defeated her despite the so-called election experts him giving a 16% chance of victory all the way up to election day.

It destroyed your egos.




Last time I checked, disliking a candidate in regards to political stances is very common place. However as I pointed out, it went much further then that. The ACA was destructive, and he went completely rogue in his second term.

Guess what, OCF? There are MANY of us who oppose Trump for reasons that have exactly NOTHING to do with his defeat of Hillary Clinton.

Can you give me any Trump policy positions that you oppose? Please leave out the TDS motivated nonsense.



As I have pointed out many times in different threads, when the hildabeast finally walks off into the sunset out of the political arena, we will cease talking about her. And to be fair, since the 2016 election, I have seen much more librul obsession with Trump then conservative obsession with the hildabeast. And the left did not shut up about GWB during the 8 years of the Obama Administration.

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Most of your post was tripe, but here is something worth commenting on.

since the 2016 election, I have seen much more librul obsession with Trump then conservative obsession with the hildabeast

Apparently you don't know why "libruls" talk about Trump. I'll help you out. Because he's the President of the United States of America. And this board? It's called "Debate Politics". It's a little difficult to debate politics while simultaneously ignoring the President of the United States. "hildabeast", as you call her, is neither a politician nor is she the President of the United States - as much as Donald Trump tried to make her the POTUS in 2008 when he was still being honest about being a liberal.

The only obsession with either Clinton or Trump is coming from the right. He's a topic of discussion. She isn't. I don't notice you guys talking about other major party candidates who lost the general election. Why not post constantly about Michael Dukakis, or Al Gore, or John Kerry? Right now they're as relevant to everyone's world as Hillary Clinton is.

By the way, the "left" didn't shut up about GWB because he was actually the President. This may come as a shock to you, but Hillary Clinton was not ever President. And i don't recall the "left" obsessing about Mitt Romney or John McCain morning, noon and night as Trump and his fan base obsesses about Hillary Clinton. Clinton wasn't Trump's predecessor. She was his opponent.

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Buzz62 said:

Bye bye...when you can discuss without twisting the words of people...I'll be here.

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Thanks for the warning. I'll be sure to not read your CT posts.

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SLC said:

:lol: I just proved you wrong :lol: Deal with it. You get my profound disdain. :doh

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I'm sure you think so in your fantasy world. Your gullibility has been put on full display.

https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/jan/06/jesse-watters/claim-john-podestas-email-password-was-password-la/

"Claim that John Podesta's email password was 'password' lacks evidence"

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/assange-tells-hannity-that-podestas-password-was-um-password-2017-01-04

"Assange tells Hannity that Podesta’s password was, um, ‘password’"

Atomic Kid said:

You must be very confused then because that is what you do here every time someone upsets your little dreamworld. Watch the video and you might actually learn something. But I doubt it.

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Does the video refute the data being generated and the economic results benefiting the American people? You see, I don't see how Trump has harmed you, your family, or the country and no allegations or charges have been filed. You can indict a ham sandwich but the reality is there is NO indictment and only the results that you want to ignore.

I don't like Trump, never have liked Trump but voted for Trump to make changes in D.C. and he is doing that. best economic results since Reagan

Atomic Kid said:

You must be very confused then because that is what you do here every time someone upsets your little dreamworld. Watch the video and you might actually learn something. But I doubt it.

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come on, if you are as old as you claim to be and have the experience you want to pass on to everyone else you would understand exactly who Robert Reich is and what he stands for. How long are you going to buy the Great Recession rhetoric and excuses that affected fewer Americans than any other recession in U.S. History. it was a financial recession, a housing issue and if you didn't own a home that had an adjustable rate mortgage you weren't affected .The misery index would explain it to you.

The 81-82 recession was much, much worse but you want to buy what Reich tells you, why? As for people not benefiting from the Trump economy, that is nothing more than typical leftwing rhetoric and promotion of their socialist ideology that promotes equal outcome over equal opportunity. The actual results refute Reich and you completely

I have learned plenty from you, you are poorly informed, incapable of doing any research, and have no understanding of economics and civics

Atomic Kid said:

You must be very confused then because that is what you do here every time someone upsets your little dreamworld. Watch the video and you might actually learn something. But I doubt it.

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Here is the Robert Reich you want me to believe, a lawyer claiming to be an economist. All this does is show how easily people like you are indoctrinated and what is basically wrong with this country today

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulro...mics-false-facts-false-theories/#225bf703507a

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tres borrachos said:

Most of your post was tripe, but here is something worth commenting on.

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Yawn....

since the 2016 election, I have seen much more librul obsession with Trump then conservative obsession with the hildabeast

Apparently you don't know why "libruls" talk about Trump. I'll help you out. Because he's the President of the United States of America. And this board? It's called "Debate Politics". It's a little difficult to debate politics while simultaneously ignoring the President of the United States. "hildabeast", as you call her, is neither a politician nor is she the President of the United States - as much as Donald Trump tried to make her the POTUS in 2008 when he was still being honest about being a liberal.

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The hildabeast is not the president, however she is still very much a politician. It is hilarious that you think she's not. When she lost the 2016 race, she did not ride off into the sunset, she continues to inject herself in politics, even to the point of starting another PAC, supposedly for advancing democrat party causes. And once again, I simply don't care who Trump supported in 2008. My favorite President Ronald Reagan was once a democrat. I don't think Trump was that serious about politics in 2008 and most billionaire businessmen and woman hedge their bets and donate to either whichever party is in power or both parties.

The only obsession with either Clinton or Trump is coming from the right. He's a topic of discussion. She isn't. I don't notice you guys talking about other major party candidates who lost the general election. Why not post constantly about Michael Dukakis, or Al Gore, or John Kerry? Right now they're as relevant to everyone's world as Hillary Clinton is.

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Now you are doing what you seem to be accusing those of us on the right of doing. Dukakis goes back to 1988 politics. Gore goes back to the 2000 race. And Kerry goes back to the 2004 race. I and other conservatives certainly discussed them during those races and for a year or two afterward at least as long as they were in the news. The hildabeast was just defeated in the most recent presidential race in 2016 and certainly still is in the news and ensconced in politics. I do realize that those of you on the left are embarrassed that she lost and flinch every time you hear about her, however as long as she is active in politics, she will continue to be talked about.

By the way, the "left" didn't shut up about GWB because he was actually the President.

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Last time I checked, GWB left office the day Obama was inaugerated in January 2009. That did not by a long shot end libruls talking about him and continuing to blame him for everything that went wrong in during the Obama years.

This may come as a shock to you, but Hillary Clinton was not ever President.

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Thank God! However she was first lady,a Senator, a Secretary of State and a two time presidential candidate. Not winning the office of President does nto equate to "not in politics".

And i don't recall the "left" obsessing about Mitt Romney or John McCain morning, noon and night as Trump and his fan base obsesses about Hillary Clinton. Clinton wasn't Trump's predecessor. She was his opponent.

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Romney was a failed presidential candidate and did pretty much ride off into the sunset after losing to Obama in 2012......at least until he decided to run for Senator in 2018. McCain was basically a useful idiot to the democrat party. They assisted his getting the GOP nomination in 2008 knowing he would be easy to defeat. Afet he lost, he continued as a Senator playing the role of "maverick moderate". For all practical purposes, he was a librul.

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Every time I turn on radio or TV news, I hear "experts" predict that the special prosecutor will soon have President Trump out of the White House, and I read that "celebrities" are jumping at joy when they predict that we may soon seen Donald J. Trump not only impeached (and convicted in the Senate) but also in a prison orange jump suit. In fact, these people will not be satisfied until the whole Trump family (including Melania) are prisoners.


And those "experts" and "celebrities" may be right. The power of the federal government can break anyone.


If it does happen, I hope that the new president (whoever s/he is) will grant all the Trumps a pardon, as President Ford had the courage and wisdom to do regarding President Nixon, who, I have read, actually feared possible imprisonment.

I hope that we never become a country that imprisons former presidents. Quite a few nations do so, and it has more than a little whiff of cruelty and viciousness, not "justice."

What we will need is a president who will heal this nation and then get on with needed business.

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ObamacareFail said:

Yawn....

since the 2016 election, I have seen much more librul obsession with Trump then conservative obsession with the hildabeast



The hildabeast is not the president, however she is still very much a politician. It is hilarious that you think she's not. When she lost the 2016 race, she did not ride off into the sunset, she continues to inject herself in politics, even to the point of starting another PAC, supposedly for advancing democrat party causes. And once again, I simply don't care who Trump supported in 2008. My favorite President Ronald Reagan was once a democrat. I don't think Trump was that serious about politics in 2008 and most billionaire businessmen and woman hedge their bets and donate to either whichever party is in power or both parties.



Now you are doing what you seem to be accusing those of us on the right of doing. Dukakis goes back to 1988 politics. Gore goes back to the 2000 race. And Kerry goes back to the 2004 race. I and other conservatives certainly discussed them during those races and for a year or two afterward at least as long as they were in the news. The hildabeast was just defeated in the most recent presidential race in 2016 and certainly still is in the news and ensconced in politics. I do realize that those of you on the left are embarrassed that she lost and flinch every time you hear about her, however as long as she is active in politics, she will continue to be talked about.



Last time I checked, GWB left office the day Obama was inaugerated in January 2009. That did not by a long shot end libruls talking about him and continuing to blame him for everything that went wrong in during the Obama years.



Thank God! However she was first lady,a Senator, a Secretary of State and a two time presidential candidate. Not winning the office of President does nto equate to "not in politics".





Romney was a failed presidential candidate and did pretty much ride off into the sunset after losing to Obama in 2012......at least until he decided to run for Senator in 2018. McCain was basically a useful idiot to the democrat party. They assisted his getting the GOP nomination in 2008 knowing he would be easy to defeat. Afet he lost, he continued as a Senator playing the role of "maverick moderate". For all practical purposes, he was a librul.

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Drivel, as always. Why are you so obsessed with a former candidate for President? Stop emulating Trump at every turn. It's embarrassing to watch.

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tres borrachos said:

Drivel, as always. Why are you so obsessed with a former candidate for President? Stop emulating Trump at every turn. It's embarrassing to watch.

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What you should be embarrassed about is your continued effort to push yourself off as a moderate republican.

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ObamacareFail said:

What you should be embarrassed about is your continued effort to push yourself off as a moderate republican.

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I'm no longer a Republican. I left the party when you people elected that fraudulent lifelong Democrat sitting in the oval office today. I'm as moderate as they get, and always have been. I'm just have too many ethics to be part of the party of crap that the GOP has become.

And you knew that already, because you've posted with me since 2014 when you joined here. The smart and REAL Republicans left the party when it became the joke that it is today.

Covfefe.

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tres borrachos said:

I'm no longer a Republican.

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Once again, I invite you to read the republican platform. As in your own words "as moderate as they get" you did not support the platform and therefore you were never a true republican anyway. To be fair, you have alot of company. Establishment politicians in the republican party don't go by the platform either. They just flash it during the campaign seasons to get votes and then ignore it until the next election. Though without the McCain influence, they may be coming around at some level.

I left the party when you people elected that fraudulent lifelong Democrat sitting in the oval office today.

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Those that you refer to as "you people" include a boat load of independents and even democrats in the blue firewall states. Without democrat votes in Ohio, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, trump would not have been elected. As for "lifelong democrat", Trump is no more a life long democrat then Ronald Reagan. When you register for a political party, you are not signing up for a lifelong membership. Trump ran in 2016 as a populist conservative. The campaign promises he made match up well with the republican party platform, and he has honored many of those promises and is still working on the ones he is having trouble getting through congress. For instance it was McCain who tanked the repeal and replacement of Obamacare.

I'm as moderate as they get, and always have been.

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I think you really mean liberal.

I'm just have too many ethics to be part of the party of crap that the GOP has become.

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I am ofcourse not buying that. I know you think I am obsessed with Hillary, however you have gone out of your way to defend her with your "Where are the charges" mantra. Hillary is clearly the most corrupt politician in my lifetime and that includes Nixon.

And you knew that already, because you've posted with me since 2014 when you joined here. The smart and REAL Republicans left the party when it became the joke that it is today.

Covfefe.

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The smart and real republicans have read, understand and support the republican party platform. It is after all, what the republican party claims to stand for. The establishment politicians in the party have forsaken that platform for decades now. The populist movement that started in 2010 that Trump tapped into was meant to bring not only the republican party back to what it claims to represent, but return to the limited government ideals of the nation's founders. That Trump was a late comer to that movement does not bother me as long as he remains a part of the movement. Trump may brash and egotistical, however he is bringing us back from the brink of globalism and status quo. I am all for that.

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tres borrachos said:

I'm no longer a Republican. I left the party when you people elected that fraudulent lifelong Democrat sitting in the oval office today. I'm as moderate as they get, and always have been. I'm just have too many ethics to be part of the party of crap that the GOP has become.

And you knew that already, because you've posted with me since 2014 when you joined here. The smart and REAL Republicans left the party when it became the joke that it is today.

Covfefe.

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The Democrat party of JFK would be the Republican party today. The Democrat party left Trump like it left a lot of other people.

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SLC said:

The Democrat party of JFK would be the Republican party today. The Democrat party left Trump like it left a lot of other people.

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Exactly. The democrat party for decades hailed JFK as their modern icon. That stopped in the early to mid 1990s as conservatives started making public comparisons to JFK's conservative policies versus today's democrats. Compared to republicans like McCain and Romney, JFK was to the right. Ofcourse when JFK's conservatve policies were brought up by republicans, the late liberal Senator Ted Kennedy accused the republicans of stealing his brother's legacy.

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TheParser said:

Every time I turn on radio or TV news, I hear "experts" predict that the special prosecutor will soon have President Trump out of the White House, and I read that "celebrities" are jumping at joy when they predict that we may soon seen Donald J. Trump not only impeached (and convicted in the Senate) but also in a prison orange jump suit. In fact, these people will not be satisfied until the whole Trump family (including Melania) are prisoners.


And those "experts" and "celebrities" may be right. The power of the federal government can break anyone.


If it does happen, I hope that the new president (whoever s/he is) will grant all the Trumps a pardon, as President Ford had the courage and wisdom to do regarding President Nixon, who, I have read, actually feared possible imprisonment.

I hope that we never become a country that imprisons former presidents. Quite a few nations do so, and it has more than a little whiff of cruelty and viciousness, not "justice."

What we will need is a president who will heal this nation and then get on with needed business.

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A. Why would you want a pardon granted to Trump? He's a full on mafioso.
B. Ford should never have granted a pardon that that leaking sack of human feces, Nixon."

We need to see and address our wounds honestly before ever 'healing'.

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ObamacareFail said:

Exactly. The democrat party for decades hailed JFK as their modern icon. That stopped in the early to mid 1990s as conservatives started making public comparisons to JFK's conservative policies versus today's democrats. Compared to republicans like McCain and Romney, JFK was to the right. Ofcourse when JFK's conservatve policies were brought up by republicans, the late liberal Senator Ted Kennedy accused the republicans of stealing his brother's legacy.

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What's the 'democrat party'? I've never heard of it?

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Tanngrisnir said:

B. Ford should never have granted a pardon that that leaking sack of human feces, Nixon."

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Whoa!

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SLC said:

The Democrat party of JFK would be the Republican party today. The Democrat party left Trump like it left a lot of other people.

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There is no such thing as the Democrat Party. It's called the Democratic Party.

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ObamacareFail said:

Once again, I invite you to read the republican platform. As in your own words "as moderate as they get" you did not support the platform and therefore you were never a true republican anyway. To be fair, you have alot of company. Establishment politicians in the republican party don't go by the platform either. They just flash it during the campaign seasons to get votes and then ignore it until the next election. Though without the McCain influence, they may be coming around at some level.





Those that you refer to as "you people" include a boat load of independents and even democrats in the blue firewall states. Without democrat votes in Ohio, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, trump would not have been elected. As for "lifelong democrat", Trump is no more a life long democrat then Ronald Reagan. When you register for a political party, you are not signing up for a lifelong membership. Trump ran in 2016 as a populist conservative. The campaign promises he made match up well with the republican party platform, and he has honored many of those promises and is still working on the ones he is having trouble getting through congress. For instance it was McCain who tanked the repeal and replacement of Obamacare.



I think you really mean liberal.



I am ofcourse not buying that. I know you think I am obsessed with Hillary, however you have gone out of your way to defend her with your "Where are the charges" mantra. Hillary is clearly the most corrupt politician in my lifetime and that includes Nixon.




The smart and real republicans have read, understand and support the republican party platform. It is after all, what the republican party claims to stand for. The establishment politicians in the party have forsaken that platform for decades now. The populist movement that started in 2010 that Trump tapped into was meant to bring not only the republican party back to what it claims to represent, but return to the limited government ideals of the nation's founders. That Trump was a late comer to that movement does not bother me as long as he remains a part of the movement. Trump may brash and egotistical, however he is bringing us back from the brink of globalism and status quo. I am all for that.

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I've read the Republican Party platform hundreds of times since 1980, especially while working on the man Republican candidate platforms I've worked on.

Hillary Clinton has nothing to do with the Republican Party embracing the corrupt fraud Donald Trump and allowing him to wreck it.

You don't know anything about Trump's history of supporting candidates if you compare him to Ronald Reagan. No surprise. You just follow the Trump Fan Nation pack.

John McCain represented the people of Arizona. They did not want the useless "Healthcare plan" the Republicans had 9 years to put together and failed to do. He didn't represent Donald J. Trump. He voted as his constituents wanted him to, not as a weak, now almost completely destroyed Republican Party wanted him to. Don't blame him for the Republican Party failure.

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tres borrachos said:

There is no such thing as the Democrat Party. It's called the Democratic Party.

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It's actually the Democrap Party! Hardy har!

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TheGoverness said:

It's actually the Democrap Party! Hardy har!

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I need a new leather jacket before Christmas! My dog ate Clay's picture. Can I have new one, this time with a picture of two lesbians kissing?

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tres borrachos said:

I need a new leather jacket before Christmas! My dog ate Clay's picture. Can I have new one, this time with a picture of two lesbians kissing?

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I'll get you a new one pronto. I'll even kiss it myself to make it more gay. :2razz: