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Grand jury indicts 4 allegedly linked to white supremacy group, accused in attacks at rallies

Conservative said:
Tell us exactly what promise that "proven liar" hasn't delivered on? Your hatred has blinded you to reality. Stop reading the news media and look at your own bank account and investments if you are smart enough to have either or both
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Where's that check from Mexico for the wall again?

The good new healthcare plan?

Sure, I'm not saying he's not completely useless but there's a lot he needs to step up on, such as acting like an adult
 
trixare4kids said:
You can believe whatever narrative you want but your feelings don't change facts.

Trump has denounced all white supremacy groups, and went as far signing a resolution condemning white supremacy

Glad I could help you see the light...
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I think I'll pay attention to what Trump does, not what he says, or which pieces of paper someone drafted and presented to him he might have signed.
 
americanwoman said:
That's just it.

Trump can claim to denounce it but he does continue to stir the pot which makes me question if he really truly denounces it.
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The bottom line for me is I actually don't care if Trump is a white supremacist. He feeds them raw meat, encourages them, denouncing them only when repeatedly pressed by the "liberal" media, or in the case of that statement, Congress. So he and the GOP have decided that appealing to our worst instincts and our worst fears about immigrants and others is a political winner, and they're doing it, as a party. If you are in the GOP at this point in history, you ARE endorsing this strategy intended to turn out the white, racist/bigoted, anti-immigrant base.

The only "needle" they need to thread is to give enough plausible deniability to the non-bigots in the GOP, and there are many, top keep them in the fold, which is what signing that worthless statement provides, and it turns out the eye of that needle is a mile wide.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
That's a mouthful. Can't they just say angry white guys? Why are all these racist groups so politically correct!!!!!!!!!
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agreed.
I also doubt the "combat ready" part.
More like more sensationalism from news people.
Probably can't run the 100 in less than 20 minutes.
That is how most of these redneck extremist groups roll.

...with emphasis on the ROLL.
 
americanwoman said:
I am not a leftist and don't promise you anything.

Sounds like you just wanted to go to Cuba and need to make excuses for it.
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Most leftists are reading challenged as well so apparently I have found another one, reading comprehension seems to be a problem for you. Making excuses for Cuba by pointing out what a liberal utopia is when you get "free stuff?"
 
JasperL said:
The bottom line for me is I actually don't care if Trump is a white supremacist. He feeds them raw meat, encourages them, denouncing them only when repeatedly pressed by the "liberal" media, or in the case of that statement, Congress. So he and the GOP have decided that appealing to our worst instincts and our worst fears about immigrants and others is a political winner, and they're doing it, as a party. If you are in the GOP at this point in history, you ARE endorsing this strategy intended to turn out the white, racist/bigoted, anti-immigrant base.

The only "needle" they need to thread is to give enough plausible deniability to the non-bigots in the GOP, and there are many, top keep them in the fold, which is what signing that worthless statement provides, and it turns out the eye of that needle is a mile wide.
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Yep, the 6.2% unemployment rate for African Americans and 4.5% for Hispanics shows Trump to be entirely in the pocket of White Supremacist! You people have zero credibility when data shows just how wrong you are
 
americanwoman said:
Where's that check from Mexico for the wall again?

The good new healthcare plan?

Sure, I'm not saying he's not completely useless but there's a lot he needs to step up on, such as acting like an adult
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In the foreign policy expense reduction and he has only been in office less than 2 years but don't let that reality get in the way of your hate. The wall is under construction
 
RAMOSS said:
Apparently, at least one white supremist group is being indicted for inciting and planning riots at rallies.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...-linked-white-supremacy-group-accused-n930131

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The only thing I don't like about the article is that NBC uses the (((SPLC))) as a source. Although the article they link to is ok, except they forget to add that groups like this are a reaction to Antifa going to rallies during 2016 to beat the **** out of republicans (what the Antifa retards call Nazis).

I'm all for any group training to protect themselves and their fellow activist during events. But if it could be proven that these asshats are going out to cause violence instead of reacting to it, then **** them and lock 'em up. We don't need anymore retards casing problems at rallies or protest.
 
Conservative said:
OMG, since you won't watch the video why would I even comment on what ONE person did, you aren't worth the effort. Won't answer the question will you, why should anyone vote for the Democrats this election?
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I’ve already answered many times but you always act like you have Alzheimer’s. Because I want pre existing conditions protected for my family and trump won’t protect it and the GOP have been trying to get rid of it for years. GOP are liars and their comments are dishonest like yours.
 
Praxas said:
I’ve already answered many times but you always act like you have Alzheimer’s. Because I want pre existing conditions protected for my family and trump won’t protect it and the GOP have been trying to get rid of it for years. GOP are liars and their comments are dishonest like yours.
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Don't really give a damn what you want, take personal responsibility for your personal issues, you don't need ACA for existing conditions, your state can provide that, why aren't they? You want the President to take over your own personal responsibilities? How liberal of you. Single issue voters don't have a lot of credibility and no clue

Oh, love your tag line, conservatives don't give a damn about women being assaulted in bathrooms but you have no problem with Target providing no separate bathroom identifications? What a typical leftwing radical liberal you are
 
americanwoman said:
Sorry one video of a proven liar may convince you but I need a hell of a lot more.
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Here's more.



Not that it matters. No matter what Trump says or does he will always be a racist to you. I hope that from this video you begin to realize just why you believe what you do and draw the conclusions the way you do now.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Assuming they even voted.

Even if they did, that does not mean that they are Trump's people anymore than Antifa is some Democrat's "people".
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We couldn't have disowned Antifa as the anarchists that they are fast enough.

President tRump, meanwhile, seems remarkably unable to disavow himself of even the worst of racists.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Please show how any of these people are connected to Trump. You said they're Trumps people. So show how they are connected to Trump.
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Show me how Farrakhan and Bill Ayers are connected to Obama.
People are saying that Trump's rhetoric is a virtue signal to these people, not that Trump hand picked them.
 
Phys251 said:
We couldn't have disowned Antifa as the anarchists that they are fast enough.

President tRump, meanwhile, seems remarkably unable to disavow himself of even the worst of racists.
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I'll admit that Dems at first believed that Antifa shared common ground. In past years Antifa pretended to just be nameless "black bloque" anarchists, quietly infiltrating liberal events and venues, turning to random and sporadic violence and vandalism, and then blending back into the crowd. Now they are much more militant, openly communist in most cases, and out for the blood of both the Right AND liberals as well.


They see Dems and other liberals as traitorous because we are "not Left wing ENOUGH".
It's a very rude awakening but make no mistake, liberals learn quickly.
We HAVE learned quickly already.

It appears however, that President Trump cannot stop himself from doing the winks and nods to extremists on the Right.
Never before in our history has a president said, "I am a nationalist", even at height of Lindbergh and Ford popularity.
There is no "generic" nationalist pose. When one says they are "nationalist", the WHITE nationalists understand.

Loving America and wanting it to be #1 isn't "nationalism". It's "loving America and wanting it to be #1".

Nationalism is nationalism, and in the USA that means WHITE nationalism.
If you didn't know it before, now you do.
 
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Checkerboard Strangler said:
I'll admit that Dems at first believed that Antifa shared common ground. In past years Antifa pretended to just be nameless "black bloque" anarchists, quietly infiltrating liberal events and venues, turning to random and sporadic violence and vandalism, and then blending back into the crowd. Now they are much more militant, openly communist in most cases, and out for the blood of both the Right AND liberals as well.

They see Dems and other liberals as traitorous because we are "not Left wing ENOUGH".
It's a very rude awakening but make no mistake, liberals learn quickly.
We HAVE learned quickly already.
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One of the very first nights that Antifa made any kind of noise, I watched the media helicopter livestream. To this day I will never forget when they unfurled a banner that had two words on it: "Become ingovernable". Right then and there, I knew what they were. Anarchists. Left-leaning perhaps, but first and foremost anarchists. And every one of their actions since has confirmed that hypothesis.

It appears however, that President Trump cannot stop himself from doing the winks and nods to extremists on the Right.
Never before in our history has a president said, "I am a nationalist", even at height of Lindbergh and Ford popularity.
There is no "generic" nationalist pose. When one says they are "nationalist", the WHITE nationalists understand.

Loving America and wanting it to be #1 isn't "nationalism". It's "loving America and wanting it to be #1".
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The dog whistle is working at all frequencies. And tRump refuses to change that.
 
CitizenBasehead said:
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There's Obama with the Orkin man himself. They're like BBF.
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And that's it? A photo bomb?

Tell us which meeting it was. Was it a meeting to support the Nation of Islam specifically, or did Louis Farrakhan JUST SHOW UP for some pictures?
So far all we have is one photo. It is possible to play that game on all sides, so you need a lot more than just one picture.
 
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Phys251 said:
One of the very first nights that Antifa made any kind of noise, I watched the media helicopter livestream. To this day I will never forget when they unfurled a banner that had two words on it: "Become ingovernable". Right then and there, I knew what they were. Anarchists. Left-leaning perhaps, but first and foremost anarchists. And every one of their actions since has confirmed that hypothesis.



The dog whistle is working at all frequencies. And tRump refuses to change that.
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Yes I remember seeing those banners everywhere:

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But now we're seeing NEW banners and flags:

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And new warnings:

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Checkerboard Strangler said:
Show me how Farrakhan and Bill Ayers are connected to Obama.
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I've never said such so no need for me to. :shrug:

Checkerboard Strangler said:
People are saying that Trump's rhetoric is a virtue signal to these people, not that Trump hand picked them.
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And do those people know that those same type of people have voted for and touted other Presidents in the past because of those Presidents rhetoric? Just because a group favors a President does not mean that President favors them. Nor does it mean that Presidents "rhetoric" is some sort of call or "nudge nudge, wink wink" type of thing.
 
Conservative said:
Don't really give a damn what you want, take personal responsibility for your personal issues, you don't need ACA for existing conditions, your state can provide that, why aren't they? You want the President to take over your own personal responsibilities? How liberal of you. Single issue voters don't have a lot of credibility and no clue
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The state only covers so much with MS treatment. Maybe you don't care if my wife, aunt, and sister are in wheelchairs with their congnacince capability gone (That's with state paid treatment for MS), but I do. Without the pre-existing condition exemption my family would be placed on insurance too high to pay for and their needed treatments would not be covered. So I don't give a damn what you say, Trump and Trump supporters and the GOP are direct threats to my family and I have voted accordingly as well as friends and family that haven't voted in years.

Again, I truly hope you and your family go through what others have to and then maybe, just maybe you would understand. Cons like you love looking down on others until tragedy strikes your own families and then you change your minds when it actually happens to you.

Oh, love your tag line, conservatives don't give a damn about women being assaulted in bathrooms but you have no problem with Target providing no separate bathroom identifications? What a typical leftwing radical liberal you are
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Tag line is true, you cons are disgusting supporting Trump and the GOP.
 
Phys251 said:
We couldn't have disowned Antifa as the anarchists that they are fast enough.

President tRump, meanwhile, seems remarkably unable to disavow himself of even the worst of racists.
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And yet he has done so. Many times. I believe I've posted a couple of videos of him doing just that in this thread.
 
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