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Mueller Wants the FBI to Look at a Scheme to Discredit Him

Mycroft said:
Oh...well...if Twitter is dunking him, I guess that settles it. :roll:
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He’s getting very widely ridiculed because his hoax was so completely inept it just boggles the mind.

HE USED. A PHOTO. OF HIMSELF. IN A FAKE PROFILE.

AND HIS MOMS PHONE NUMBER
 
Deuce said:
He’s getting very widely ridiculed because his hoax was so completely inept it just boggles the mind.

HE USED. A PHOTO. OF HIMSELF. IN A FAKE PROFILE.

AND HIS MOMS PHONE NUMBER
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Trump truly loves the uneducated:lamo
 
poweRob said:
Learn more by reading about Surefire Intelligence and Jacob Wohl. Future prison inmate.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ju...cheme-targeting-him-fbi-investigation-n926301
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That's some comedy gold stuff right there. I was about to post the same article. It's hard to believe they're just THAT stupid. A phone number for an "intelligence" firm that forwards to someone's mom? :lamo

Something's really weird with this thing. If it wasn't guys who've proved their "nut job" bona fides over and over, you'd have to think there is something more to the story here.
 
incompetent Trump supporters, being incompetent.

This reeks of a failed ploy to flip the script they think Dems were using during the Kavanaugh debacle.

I wish Trump supporters would stop trying to outsmart their opponents and rely on what they are good at, politically correct racism designed to validate their hate and virtue signal at the same time.
 
And yet another failed attempt to discredit Mueller. What is the Right so frightened off?
 
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ThoughtEx. said:
incompetent Trump supporters, being incompetent.

This reeks of a failed ploy to flip the script they think Dems were using during the Kavanaugh debacle.

I wish Trump supporters would stop trying to outsmart their opponents and rely on what they are good at, politically correct racism designed to validate their hate and virtue signal at the same time.
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What is getting lost here is how cynically dangerous Republicans are...

This was an incredibly inept attempt to smear Mueller.

What happens when a more competent right wing sleazeball tries?
 
ecofarm said:
A false false-flag intended to discredit Dr. Ford.





Am I doing it right?
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She did that herself, along with Feinstein and the other Democrats.
 
American said:
She did that herself, along with Feinstein and the other Democrats.
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I'm not one of those guys hung up on the "evil women" thing. It doesn't do anything for me. I don't have mommy or penis issues. I just wanna get in on the false flag theory action.
 
ecofarm said:
I'm not one of those guys hung up on the "evil women" thing. It doesn't do anything for me. I don't have mommy or penis issues. I just wanna get in on the false flag theory action.
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Your issues are irrelevant in this thread, but Feinstein is evil no doubt about it.
 
American said:
Your issues are irrelevant in this thread, but Feinstein is evil no doubt about it.
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It's not my issues at hand. It's those of woman-hating tiny-penis failures of men bent on demonizing women.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Which somehow made Ford's claims believable somehow to Democrats. Every single defense you utter towards forward can be used to skewer Mueller.

Don't blame me, your side ****witted this set of rules. Time to reap what you have sown.


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I didn't say that Ms. Ford's claims were any more "believable" than "should be taken seriously enough to be investigated".

"Your Side" took the opposite view.

I don't say that Mr. Mueller's claims are any more "believable" than "should be taken seriously enough to be investigated".

"Your Side" takes the opposite view.

As far as I, personally, am concerned, the "set of rules" consists of a single rule "All claims should be taken seriously enough to be investigated and any conclusion as to the validity of the claim should wait until a full, impartial, investigation has been completed.".

"Your Side" takes the opposite view.
 
Mycroft said:
Oh...well...if Twitter is dunking him, I guess that settles it. :roll:
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While I won't say that just because it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, hangs around with ducks, and went to duck school doesn't prove that it isn't a hippopotamus, I'm not about to bet the rent on it being a hippopotamus.

Are you?
 
Deuce said:
He’s getting very widely ridiculed because his hoax was so completely inept it just boggles the mind.

HE USED. A PHOTO. OF HIMSELF. IN A FAKE PROFILE.

AND HIS MOMS PHONE NUMBER
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Hey, if you are living in your Mom's basement, what's wrong with using your Mom's phone number?
 
JasperL said:
That's some comedy gold stuff right there. I was about to post the same article. It's hard to believe they're just THAT stupid. A phone number for an "intelligence" firm that forwards to someone's mom? :lamo

Something's really weird with this thing. If it wasn't guys who've proved their "nut job" bona fides over and over, you'd have to think there is something more to the story here.
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I believe that the gentleman DOES qualify for a Pretty Hugely Dumb, don't you?
 
OpportunityCost said:
Which somehow made Ford's claims believable somehow to Democrats. Every single defense you utter towards forward can be used to skewer Mueller.

Don't blame me, your side ****witted this set of rules. Time to reap what you have sown.
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Were accusations against Kavanaugh made by a fake investigative company using photos of famous actors and models for supposed staff profiles?

Ford was willing to testify under oath. Mueller’s accuser doesn’t exist.
 
Kobie said:
Were accusations against Kavanaugh made by a fake investigative company using photos of famous actors and models for supposed staff profiles?

Ford was willing to testify under oath. Mueller’s accuser doesn’t exist.
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Actually, she DOES exist. Her name is Lorraine Parsons. What the FBI is investigating is that a Republican operative tied to Jack Burkman offered Parsons 20,000, in addition to paying off her credit card debt, to accuse Mueller of sexually harassing her. She says he never did. At least one other woman, who actually has never met Mueller, has also contacted the FBI, claiming that a similar offer was made to her. At about the same time these women were approached, Burkman posted on Twitter that he had evidence that Mueller had harassed women. FOX News then ran with the story.

Also being investigated is an agency called Surefire Intelligence, which is also involved in this scheme. A man named Brian Krassenstein was also contacted by Surefire Intelligence, who attempted to bring him on board this attempt to discredit Mueller. He taped the phone call where they tried to recruit him for the project, and he has now turned that tape over to the FBI.

Many possibilities here, but one thing is certain. One or more persons will be going to prison for the crime of suborning perjury. There may also be charges of obstruction of justice in an attempt to derail the Mueller investigation. FOX News, which has been airing the Mueller story, seems to be on the hook for libel, although it is uncertain yet if Mueller is going to file a lawsuit.

Stay tuned. This is getting interesting as hell.
 
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TU Curmudgeon said:
I didn't say that Ms. Ford's claims were any more "believable" than "should be taken seriously enough to be investigated".

"Your Side" took the opposite view.

I don't say that Mr. Mueller's claims are any more "believable" than "should be taken seriously enough to be investigated".

"Your Side" takes the opposite view.

As far as I, personally, am concerned, the "set of rules" consists of a single rule "All claims should be taken seriously enough to be investigated and any conclusion as to the validity of the claim should wait until a full, impartial, investigation has been completed.".

"Your Side" takes the opposite view.
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You still believe yourself to be centrist, don't you? I find that laughable.
 
Lesh said:
What is getting lost here is how cynically dangerous Republicans are...

This was an incredibly inept attempt to smear Mueller.

What happens when a more competent right wing sleazeball tries?
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This caper makes the Watergate breakin look competent. A very slimy act to discredit Mueller, shamefull.
 
Kobie said:
Were accusations against Kavanaugh made by a fake investigative company using photos of famous actors and models for supposed staff profiles?
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Nope.

Kobie said:
Ford was willing to testify under oath. Mueller’s accuser doesn’t exist.
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Don't count on there NOT being someone who, for enough money, would testify about anything.

What appears to be being overlooked, is "Where is a chronic loser like Wohl getting the money (if he actually has any money) to pay for false accusations (if they are false)?".

While I am of the opinion that the likelihood of the accusations being true is so low that I wouldn't even bet doughnut money on it, I'd like to see them FULLY investigated and any appropriate charges laid.

If the investigation substantiates the claims against Mr. Mueller, then he should be charged.

If the investigation substantiates the (much more likely [in my opinion]) claims that the allegations are bogus and obtained by paying people to make false accusations, then everyone involved in the false allegations should be charged.
 
danarhea said:
FOX News, which has been airing the Mueller story, seems to be on the hook for libel, although it is uncertain yet if Mueller is going to file a lawsuit.

Stay tuned. This is getting interesting as hell.
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If it transpires that the allegations are, indeed, arising from a subornation of perjury, then I'd be willing to chip in for Mr. Meuller's legal costs if he wants to sue FOX News for libel.
 
OpportunityCost said:
You still believe yourself to be centrist, don't you? I find that laughable.
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I never said that I was an AMERICAN "Centrist".

To be an AMERICAN "centrist" I'd have to go along with "The MORE OR LESS Reactionary Wing of the American Oligarchic Capitalist Party".

While you may find it a source of humour, there are actually people in the world whose knowledge of the political spectrum is such that they don't see the Democrats as "Left-Wing" at all, but rather see it in its global perspective as a sort of “[Moderate to Conservative] Right Center" political party and who find those who characterize it as "Left-Wing" (by which they mean "Socialist" [by which they mean "Communist") political party as hilariously ill informed.
 
This is the 2nd thread about the Mueller/sexual assault story. This is funny. I had commented in a big, long post yesterday about this, and I'll bring it up again in a shorter version. To the Leftists REALLY concerned about this story, if a woman DOES come out against Mueller, with a police report, corroborating witnesses, evidence, remembers the year, date, time, town, neighborhood, place, number of people, room, and if it was just Mueller present, would you accept this woman's testimony? If so, do you think Mueller should be taken off the Trump/Russia case? Since you guys won't answer it and just say"YOU'RE STUPID" to avoid giving your real answer and exposing what your true intentions are, I'll answer it for you instead. I don't think you would if a woman came forward with all this, even if it was proven to be real evidence. If you did, for some reason, believe this woman (if there is one), you would demand for Mueller to stay on the case because he's essential to overturning the 2016 Presidential Election results, which this farce (which we call the Mueller investigation) is all about.

But in the case of Kavanaugh, when there was literally zero evidence, corroborating witnesses, nor police reports against him in Ford's and the other accusers's cases, you believed he's guilty. Why? Because he was Trump's pick and he's pro life (even though he repeatedly said he would not help to overturn Roe v Wade if it's not based on constitutional grounds). So there's, clearly, a major double standard here. I don't know if Mueller sexually assaulted a woman(s), but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt because I believe in "innocent until proven guilty" and not "guilty until proven innocent." It's the way it should be, regardless of ideology. The guy who brought the accusation could very well be lying, but if there is an accuser and some evidence to back up the claim, I'd like to hear it to see if it's legitimate. Why get the FBI involved if these claims are baseless? Local authorities can handle that. It's an accusation, nothing more. Some people probably would see Mueller trying to weaponize the FBI against someone (as a result of Mueller over reacting) who said he sexually assaulted someone. Anyway, let's see if anything happens today.
 
Mycroft said:
Correction: I've always been "spin resistant". I love facts.

Of course, part of dealing with facts is using commonly defined terms. Tell me...what is a "documented RW POS"?

As far as the issues here, we know that a woman claims she was offer $20k to say something about Mueller. We also know that someone is going to announce something about Mueller on Thursday. shrug... That's pretty much all the facts we have right now. Not much to go on.

As I said...I'm awaiting more facts.

You, on the other hand, can make up your mind with what you have.
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I think I figured out your problem. You think anything that don’t want to believe is spin. But I was wrong about Wohl being a documented RW POS. He’s a documented RW POS and a liar. Anyhoo, here’s 5 things you need to know. The best one is him denying knowledge of Surefire Inteligence and when you call the number you get his mother’s voicemail.

Wohl has denied being involved with Surefire, but NBC News reported that Surefire’s office phone number redirects to Wohl’s mother’s voicemail.
https://heavy.com/news/2018/10/jacob-wohl/

There were more than enough facts to conclude he’s a lying RW POS. Now even you cant deny it. But of course you will.
 
MTAtech said:
The Atlantic: Mueller Wants the FBI to Look at a Scheme to Discredit Him

When: 1:14 PM ET, Today

SNIPPET:

Comment. So, in order to save Trump, someone allegedly tried to hire a woman to fabricate sexual assault charges against Mueller. These people have no limits to how low they will stoop.
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Gosh... this sound so Avanatti like!

Well... based on the precedent already set a month ago by the poundmetoo crowd and the Liberals, it seems fitting. But okay, let's go ahead and be fair about this:

1) Investigate the claims by the alleged victim of the rape (she must be believed until Mueller can prove he didn't do it)

2) Investigate the claims by Mueller that women were being offered cash to come forward

Have a nice day!

:peace
 
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