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    Re: [W:701]Trump plans to sign executive order curbing birthright citizenship: report

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    Having no need to be naturalized as an Amereican, I must admit that I have not.
    They did it every 2-3 months in the Federal court my wife worked in for over 30 years. I attended a couple. The Federal Judge my wife worked for gave an inspiring speech. Several new citizens cried.

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    Re: [W:701]Trump plans to sign executive order curbing birthright citizenship: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Athanasius68 View Post
    Ex post facto laws would seem to apply. Nobody is losing citizenship should birthright citizenship be eliminated.
    Since no new law would be passed if the Supreme Court ruled that what the 14th "actually meant" was that (at least one of) the parents had to be an American citizen, then there would be no ex post facto law.

    People would have received a benefit because of a mistake of law on the part of the government and would have to return that benefit.

    At most they would not have to "return it retroactively" (which would eliminate the "fun" issue of the legality of all American elections since the passage of the 14th).

    However that would still leave the "fun" task of sorting out who actually was, and was not, CURRENTLY an American citizen because to determine that you would actually have to go back to the date that the 14th was passed (and that would mean that everyone would have to produce five generations worth of birth records [even the Nazis only required three]).

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    Re: [W:701]Trump plans to sign executive order curbing birthright citizenship: report

    Quote Originally Posted by SLC View Post
    People coming into the US should be fully vetted first
    And, exactly, who is arguing that they shouldn't be?

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    Re: [W:701]Trump plans to sign executive order curbing birthright citizenship: report

    Quote Originally Posted by SLC View Post
    Another failed attempt at condescension.
    Merely stating the obvious.

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    Re: [W:701]Trump plans to sign executive order curbing birthright citizenship: report

    Quote Originally Posted by SLC View Post
    They did it every 2-3 months in the Federal court my wife worked in for over 30 years. I attended a couple. The Federal Judge my wife worked for gave an inspiring speech. Several new citizens cried.
    Good for you.

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