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Mexico offers migrants in the Caravan, schooling, housing, and medical care

Good for Mexico, as this could resolve the problem for some or many of the migrants. They are still eligible to apply for asylum in the US, but the offer fits the notion I refugee work of "burden sharing," where nations cooperate in these situations.

That the current president leaves office soon could be problematic if they can't get the new guy to honor the commitment.

There’s about 30 million we can send south too.

They can apply for visa from there, or we can send them to Canada... and double their population in one fell swoop!!!
 
Seems like the Mexican President just did Trump a favor as now they can be denied asylum? Not sure what the US laws are regarding asylum though.

Its actually pretty straightforward. They have to prove that they are a refugee, within the specific definition of a refugee( Note: There is a Part B of that definition but it doesn't apply to asylum claims )

US Asylum Law said:
The burden of proof is on the applicant to establish that the applicant is a refugee, within the meaning of section 1101(a)(42)(A) of this title. To establish that the applicant is a refugee within the meaning of such section, the applicant must establish that race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion was or will be at least one central reason for persecuting the applicant.


Refuge definition from 1101(a)(42)(A):
The term “refugee” means (A) any person who is outside any country of such person’s nationality or, in the case of a person having no nationality, is outside any country in which such person last habitually resided, and who is unable or unwilling to return to, and is unable or unwilling to avail himself or herself of the protection of, that country because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.
 
Its actually pretty straightforward. They have to prove that they are a refugee, within the specific definition of a refugee( Note: There is a Part B of that definition but it doesn't apply to asylum claims )

How are they being persecuted?
 
How are they being persecuted?

No idea; I assumed someone would interview them regarding how the law works and they would get some individual answers but it doesn't sound like it has happened[probably will never happen]
 
Very few if any of the people on this caravan qualify for asylum in the U.S. and they knew this before they took a single step on this journey.
 
Mexico's new president offers the migrants traveling in the caravan schooling, housing, and medical care. Along with temporary ID cards and work permits if they stay in Mexico. According to the BBC reporting.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-45999610

Do you mean the new President that doesn't enter office until January and has no power to offer anything right now?
 
Mexico has just as much violence as many of these smaller Central American states. "Asylum" in Mexico is like going from the fire into the frying pan--- its better than where you were, but not by a whole lot.

That is not even close to being true.
 
In actuality can be more dangerous...just having an accent that isn't Mexican in Mexico makes you a target of the cartel.

Where on earth did you get that idea?
 
Mexican education?

Isn't that an oxymoron?

Anyway, American free stuff is more to be desired than Mejican free stuff.

If you knew anything about the Mexican school system you wouldn't say that.

The kids here in Mexico have to do much more work than I had to do in the Los Angeles Unified School District. Much more.
 
What part of Mexico is not considered a safe country did you not understand? It isn't considered so by either US or International law.

Can you prove this?
 
if i was in that caravan, I would want to leave Mexico as fast as i could.
Their own people hate it there and want to go too.
They were not offered any prize.
Half their kids would be working for drug cartels within a week.

Only the loser of society.

Educated people don't want to leave Mexico.

You can have the ones that don't want to do anything for themselves.
 
Very few if any of the people on this caravan qualify for asylum in the U.S. and they knew this before they took a single step on this journey.

They also know they are breaking our laws and don't care. Some are knowingly planning to commit a felony be re-entering.

One Honduran guy said that he wants to get back into the USA to be with his wife and children. Just one little, itty, bitty problem. He was deported after being convicted of attempted murder.
But hey, let's give him a new start and all of our tax-payer funded freebies!
Second time's a charm.:roll:
 
They also know they are breaking our laws and don't care. Some are knowingly planning to commit a felony be re-entering.

One Honduran guy said that he wants to get back into the USA to be with his wife and children. Just one little, itty, bitty problem. He was deported after being convicted of attempted murder.
But hey, let's give him a new start and all of our tax-payer funded freebies!
Second time's a charm.:roll:

Im sure he'll be made to feel right at home in one of those "sanctuary cities".
 
That is not even close to being true.

Lol yeah, that's what the other poster said about the cartels' penchant for chopping off people's heads until I provided about a dozen examples of it.
 
Lol yeah, that's what the other poster said about the cartels' penchant for chopping off people's heads until I provided about a dozen examples of it.

I can prove many more examples of that, but how does that prove the whole country is dangerous?

Many more people die every day due to violence in the US, but I bet you would say overall it is a safe country.

I live in what some people call "Cartel Controlled" Sinaloa, and I don't see any of that.

If these migrants want to get involved in the drug trade, I bet they will end up dead, and that is a good thing.
 
Do you agree or not?

I am not qualified to say on way or the other.
I have never lived in Mexico and can neither support not deny your premise.

My visits there were purely "sailor on liberty" material.
 
There’s about 30 million we can send south too.

They can apply for visa from there, or we can send them to Canada... and double their population in one fell swoop!!!

Thirty million what?
 
There’s about 30 million we can send south too.

They can apply for visa from there, or we can send them to Canada... and double their population in one fell swoop!!!

Thirty million what? There are not thirty million refugees in the US. If you mean illegals, that is a different problem than refugees already settled here or asylum seekers waiting outcomes.
 
This pretty much proves they are NOT refugees and asylum seekers. They have been granted refuge and asylum. They refused. And now they should be given nothing. If they cross over illegally they should be arrested...detained...and forever barred from legal status.
 
They are here! I guess they caught a ride. About 350 so far and more coming these are just the first to arrive.
 
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