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Fury in Germany as US Firm Hijacks Multi-Billion Dollar Deal With Iraq

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America also undermined contracts with EU companies with overseas bids to help US companies win contracts VIA the NSA .... we have Edward Snowden to thank for this .... Trump and America are showing that they are bullies and they are undermining competition .... America is no friend or Ally of Europe and only now Germany and the EU are starting to realise this ... and if America is undermining the EU what is the point of NATO membership.


https://sputniknews.com/business/201810211069077251-germany-us-iraq-power-contract/

German-based giant Siemens had spent considerable time courting the Iraqi government in order to land the $15-billion-worth contract for building power infrastructure in the war-torn country. It had been considered an odds-on favorite until Washington reportedly intervened and compelled Baghdad to choose US- based General Electric.

Head of the Federation of German Industries (BDI) Joachim Lang has lashed out at the US for its interference in business competition for projects in Iraq, using leverage to promote the interests of American big business.

“To implement the America First doctrine in this way in the global competition of multinational companies is not acceptable,” he told the German outlet Welt.

According to him, sovereign states and companies must have the freedom to negotiate the best economic solutions, in line with the principle of fair competition. The Federation demanded a “level playing field” for competitors worldwide.

However, Lang admitted that nobody had the ability to forbid any country from politically flanking its business projects. At the same time, he pointed out that no single company can be granted preferences in a situation where rules which are considered valid for other businesses are not applied to one particular actor.

On October 15, Iraq signed a memorandum of understanding with Boston-based General Electric for building power infrastructure in the war-torn country, although Siemens had been considered the front- runner. In late September, the CEO of the German conglomerate, Joe Kaeser, traveled to Baghdad accompanied by State Secretary at Germany’s Ministry for Economic Affairs and Energy Thomas Bareiss to meet Prime Minister Haider Al-Abadi. Kaeser and the head of the Iraqi government discussed a 4-year plan to install power plants with a generating capacity of 11 GW. The German outlet Handelsblatt reported the deal to be worth $15 billion.

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America also undermined contracts with EU companies with overseas bids to help US companies win contracts VIA the NSA .... we have Edward Snowden to thank for this .... Trump and America are showing that they are bullies and they are undermining competition .... America is no friend or Ally of Europe and only now Germany and the EU are starting to realise this ... and if America is undermining the EU what is the point of NATO membership.


https://sputniknews.com/business/201810211069077251-germany-us-iraq-power-contract/

Just to help me understand, are you implying that the German Government does nothing to help German industry or only that the Americans are better at helping American industry?

Just wondering...
 
Just to help me understand, are you implying that the German Government does nothing to help German industry or only that the Americans are better at helping American industry?

Just wondering...

the fact the US government threatened to end cooperation with Iraq if they didn't chose the US firm .... no EU country interferes in business matters this way
 
the fact the US government threatened to end cooperation with Iraq if they didn't chose the US firm .... no EU country interferes in business matters this way

Ah-ha! So it's not the interference that you dislike.

It's this particular flavor of interference that you dislike.

Got it!
 
Ah-ha! So it's not the interference that you dislike.
It's this particular flavor of interference that you dislike.
Got it!

Yes, it's governments threatening other countries to accept contracts from their country's companies that we don't like, and no that's not similar to any other example from the Europeans.
 
Yes, it's governments threatening other countries to accept contracts from their country's companies that we don't like, and no that's not similar to any other example from the Europeans.

Because the Europeans don't bring nearly as much to the table in terms of aid as the US does.
 
Because the Europeans don't bring nearly as much to the table in terms of aid as the US does.

No, it's because Europeans don't threaten other countries if they don't give their companies contracts. How can you justify that kind of behavior?
 
Head of the Federation of German Industries (BDI) Joachim Lang has lashed out at the US for its interference in business competition for projects in Iraq, using leverage to promote the interests of American big business.

...the CEO of the German conglomerate, Joe Kaeser, traveled to Baghdad accompanied by State Secretary at Germany’s Ministry for Economic Affairs and Energy Thomas Bareiss to meet Prime Minister Haider Al-Abadi.

So, governments shouldn't be involved in the discussions.... unless it's Germany?
 
the fact the US government threatened to end cooperation with Iraq if they didn't chose the US firm .... no EU country interferes in business matters this way

No EU country has the power to interfere that way
 
Yes, it's governments threatening other countries to accept contracts from their country's companies that we don't like, and no that's not similar to any other example from the Europeans.

Right...
 
How odd to think of the way fascism has done a complete 180-degree flip with regard to its geopolitical alignment. Smedly D. Butler and Eisenhower are rolling in their graves...
 
America also undermined contracts with EU companies with overseas bids to help US companies win contracts VIA the NSA .... we have Edward Snowden to thank for this .... Trump and America are showing that they are bullies and they are undermining competition .... America is no friend or Ally of Europe and only now Germany and the EU are starting to realise this ... and if America is undermining the EU what is the point of NATO membership.


https://sputniknews.com/business/201810211069077251-germany-us-iraq-power-contract/

Waaaa.
 
America also undermined contracts with EU companies with overseas bids to help US companies win contracts VIA the NSA .... we have Edward Snowden to thank for this .... Trump and America are showing that they are bullies and they are undermining competition .... America is no friend or Ally of Europe and only now Germany and the EU are starting to realise this ... and if America is undermining the EU what is the point of NATO membership.

https://sputniknews.com/business/201810211069077251-germany-us-iraq-power-contract/


Hmmm...what part of "America First" did you miss in both the 2016 campaign and subsequent Administration policy?

Business is business. It's called competition and every business does it. So does every nation.

This time we won, next time someone else wins. Deal with it. :coffeepap:
 
No, it's because Europeans don't threaten other countries if they don't give their companies contracts. How can you justify that kind of behavior?

Screw the Germans. The US fought and liberated Iraq while the Germans sat home and screwed over the weaker countries of the EU for its own benefit. America first.
 
What the flying fig is this?

Fury in Germany ? NATO membership in question? Sputnik news?

Outside of the group of Siemens shareholders (and of course the employees of Siemens), nobody in Germany could give a damn. Most importantly give a damn about Siemens.

In any case, nothing has been concluded in that letters of intent have been signed by Iraq with both GE and Siemens. That's not the same as the actual contracts having been given to either and there's a strong likelihood of the final deal being shared between the two.

Russian trollery at its best.
 
the fact the US government threatened to end cooperation with Iraq if they didn't chose the US firm .... no EU country interferes in business matters this way

It's a reasonable request. We threw a lot of resources into Iraq. Germany has not. We most certainly should be reminding Iraq of that fact.
 
America also undermined contracts with EU companies with overseas bids to help US companies win contracts VIA the NSA .... we have Edward Snowden to thank for this .... Trump and America are showing that they are bullies and they are undermining competition .... America is no friend or Ally of Europe and only now Germany and the EU are starting to realise this ... and if America is undermining the EU what is the point of NATO membership.


https://sputniknews.com/business/201810211069077251-germany-us-iraq-power-contract/

Gerhard Schroeder **** on and lied about Bush 43/Iraq* during the 2004 German elections. They, like Jacques Ch-Iraq... were a pair of assholes supreme.

Weeks after Bush43 left office, Frank Steinmeier... Schroeder’s **** holster... went to Iraq to drum up business for the Germans... after years of ****ting on Bush.

First they lied about and **** on the US... and then when the US cleaned things up (before Obama ****ed them up royally), these clowns come running in to scoop up the gravy.

And for years these ungrateful ingrates have failed to pay their share of their defense.

**** them.

https://www.thelocal.de/20090217/17481

Yeah... the **** holster made a “surprise visit”. To make money on the back of US blood and treasure... after ****ting on the US ceaselessly. Once again... **** them.

*I’ll never forget what the vile schwein Schroeder did.
 
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How odd to think of the way fascism has done a complete 180-degree flip with regard to its geopolitical alignment. Smedly D. Butler and Eisenhower are rolling in their graves...
:roll:

Nothing about this is "fascist."
 
America also undermined contracts with EU companies with overseas bids to help US companies win contracts VIA the NSA .... we have Edward Snowden to thank for this .... Trump and America are showing that they are bullies and they are undermining competition .... America is no friend or Ally of Europe and only now Germany and the EU are starting to realise this ... and if America is undermining the EU what is the point of NATO membership.


https://sputniknews.com/business/201810211069077251-germany-us-iraq-power-contract/

All countries use political power for economic gain. Germany uses it's political power in Europe for economic gain against it's smaller nations. If roles were reversed the German government would do the same. It would act in the same manner it does to smaller EU countries that it bails out.

Is this the way I think global economics should be played? No, but it is and has been forever.
 
:roll:

Nothing about this is "fascist."

Everything is fascist nowadays. In fact, 'fascist' is about to overtake 'racist' as the most misused word in the english language
 
Screw the Germans. The US fought and liberated Iraq while the Germans sat home and screwed over the weaker countries of the EU for its own benefit. America first.

Liberated LOL
 
What the flying fig is this?

Fury in Germany ? NATO membership in question? Sputnik news?

Outside of the group of Siemens shareholders (and of course the employees of Siemens), nobody in Germany could give a damn. Most importantly give a damn about Siemens.

In any case, nothing has been concluded in that letters of intent have been signed by Iraq with both GE and Siemens. That's not the same as the actual contracts having been given to either and there's a strong likelihood of the final deal being shared between the two.

Russian trollery at its best.
Don't mean to piss you off but you are somewhat wrong.

I first read of this story 4 days ago on that "pro Putin" site called Bloomberg. [emoji48]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...aq-to-quash-siemens-power-deal-in-favor-of-ge

So 4 days before th OP article was posted..

As for the Germans being pissed or not... they are because it is not the first time it has happened with the US.... now would they say it publicly.. nope.

The US under Trump has become a bully pure and simple.

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