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Poll: Amid Kavanaugh Confirmation Battle, Democratic Enthusiasm Edge Evaporates

Hawkeye10 said:
During this Spiritual Retreat one of the things I have been doing is listening to Youtube public intellectuals most specifically Jordan Peterson who is a real find....he and others are now pointing out with alarm that what is now taken as truth is extremely often actually dogma, which is not fact based at all, it is no better than was so much of the shoddy dogma Christianity generated down through the years. What he does not say but what I know for a fact is true is that those like me who refuse to conform to the dogma in their communications are attacked with high intensity hate just as the heretics of old suffered for their sins of refusal to organize their heads as they were told to to.

I generally over the years have not listened much at all to idea Youtubes (though I do do music) for the same reason I dont watch TV news anymore (And this is with me having been a cable news junkie for almost two decades)....anymore it takes way too much time to learn anything, both because of poor quality and because of problems with the format. I also dont do podcasts for that reason. The rebirth of the public intellectual, something that had been dead since Hitch died and mostly dead long before that, is a very exciting change. There is great potential here to fixing what the Failed University and the near death of journalism has ruined.
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Jordan Peterson quote:
"If men are pushed too hard to feminize they will become more and more interested in harsh, fascist political ideology."[
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He's describing trump and his slobbering, ignorant followers! And to make it even more palatable to you it seems that everything bad that happens is the woman's fault. Ah, what it must be like to live on a cloud of manure.
 
lurchadams said:
Jordan Peterson quote:

He's describing trump and his slobbering, ignorant followers! And to make it even more palatable to you it seems that everything bad that happens is the woman's fault. Ah, what it must be like to live on a cloud of manure.
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“People are talking about Trump voters as if they’re a tribe from another planet. Wait a second: This is half of your population. This isn’t some fringe group. Maybe sit and think about it and not just assume they’re all stupid. Because they’re not."
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Jordan Peterson.
 
lurchadams said:
Jordan Peterson quote:

He's describing trump and his slobbering, ignorant followers! And to make it even more palatable to you it seems that everything bad that happens is the woman's fault. Ah, what it must be like to live on a cloud of manure.
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On the Contrary. I dont recall anyone Blaming Ford. We are blaming the Democrats.

1) They Withheld the letter for 6+ weeks, The could have kept it anonoymouse but investigated
2) It then got Leaked and the political games were off.
3) THEY REFERRED the Katz lawfirm is that not a conflict of interest. And why a Lawyer and NOT to the Police Deportment
4) The Hearing was a joke on both sides
5) OH Soros funded activist corner flake WE GET A WEEK!
6) Not good enough, would never be good enough
7) Woodwork start happening 7,8,9th anonymous accusers.... We must investigate them all......


NO its not Ford's fault.. it those that took her situation and politicized it
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Now is not the time for small thinking.

Also you could be nicer.
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I like this Jordan Peterson quote. It explains a lot.

For example if someone is making everyone around them miserable and you'd like to know why, their motive may simply be to make everyone around them miserable including themselves.”
― Jordan B. Peterson
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American said:
I think you and the rest of your cohorts are going to pay for this in November.
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I think you and your cohorts are going to pay for the Trump administration and its enablers for a generation.
 
Exactice said:
On the Contrary. I dont recall anyone Blaming Ford. We are blaming the Democrats.

1) They Withheld the letter for 6+ weeks, The could have kept it anonoymouse but investigated
2) It then got Leaked and the political games were off.
3) THEY REFERRED the Katz lawfirm is that not a conflict of interest. And why a Lawyer and NOT to the Police Deportment
4) The Hearing was a joke on both sides
5) OH Soros funded activist corner flake WE GET A WEEK!
6) Not good enough, would never be good enough
7) Woodwork start happening 7,8,9th anonymous accusers.... We must investigate them all......


NO its not Ford's fault.. it those that took her situation and politicized it
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I certainly have blamed Ford for refusal to make her charge in timely manner thus failing in her duties to the society.
 
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lurchadams said:
I like this Jordan Peterson quote. It explains a lot.
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Peterson is the most right guy I have come across in a long while. If you put me him and Paglia in a room talking we will agree on 95% of everything.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I certainly have blamed Ford for refusal to make her charge in timely matter thus failing in her duties to the society.
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Personally To me, Thats insult to injury.

BUT and this is the big but, THERE are LAWS that are in place FOR JUST THESE types of situation. It does not take you and or I to say out out loud. the LAW is constant If there are statutes of limitation thats WHAT they are their for

IF there are NONE then the burden of proof falls on the accuser..... Im not a lawyer and supposedly have these people are are they DONT even respect that WHAT IN THE WORLD?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Peterson is the most right guy I have come across in a long while. If you put me him and Paglia in a room talking we will agree on 95% of everything.
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If you put Hitler, Mussolini, and Pol Pot in a room together they'd agree on 95% of everything as well.

Agreeing with people being a good thing depends on what the agreeable people are agreeing about.
 
Exactice said:
Personally To me, Thats insult to injury.

BUT and this is the big but, THERE are LAWS that are in place FOR JUST THESE types of situation. It does not take you and or I to say out out loud. the LAW is constant If there are statutes of limitation thats WHAT they are their for

IF there are NONE then the burden of proof falls on the accuser..... Im not a lawyer and supposedly have these people are are they DONT even respect that WHAT IN THE WORLD?
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Well actually the Feminists who drive sex law in their partnership with the government have mostly gotten rid of Statues of Limitations on sex crimes....it cut down too hard on the numbers of men who can be beaten in retribution for either real or imagined crimes...keeping in mind that women are now encouraged to lie because dogma says that we must take what ever they claimed happened as settled truth.

It is now a free shot to take out any man who gets in their way....something that Trump hints at but should state more clearly.
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
Well actually the Feminists who drive sex law in there partnership with the government have mostly gotten rid of Statues of Limitations on sex crimes....it cut down too hard on the numbers of men who can be beaten in retribution for either real or imagined crimes...keeping in mind that women are now encouraged to lie because dogma says that we must take what ever they claimed happened as settled truth.
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AAWWWWW But here is the kicker, Burden of proof...... of course that is out the window here...... But that LAW is still constant. EVEN with the removal of statues of limitation the RULE of law still states 2 huge parts

1) INNOCENT Until proven Guilty
2) Burden of proof is on the ACCUSER.


Again those basics of our justice systems and laws have UTTERLY FAILED here with the Kavannaugh /Ford Fiasco....
 
Exactice said:
AAWWWWW But here is the kicker, Burden of proof...... of course that is out the window here...... But that LAW is still constant. EVEN with the removal of statues of limitation the RULE of law still states 2 huge parts

1) INNOCENT Until proven Guilty
2) Burden of proof is on the ACCUSER.


Again those basics of our justice systems and laws have UTTERLY FAILED here with the Kavannaugh /Ford Fiasco....
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Dont forget that the Feminists are also deep into removing your right to confront your accuser.....

Constitution be damned...this is really where we are now....what power wants to ignore power ignores...Bye Bye Bye goes our freedom.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Dont forget that the Feminists are also deep into removing your right to confront your accuser.....
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You should check out another thread.... dude has been trying to avoid answering these questions and then ...BAM... TEMP BAN LOL!! I love justice like that!!!
 
lurchadams said:
If you put Hitler, Mussolini, and Pol Pot in a room together they'd agree on 95% of everything as well.

Agreeing with people being a good thing depends on what the agreeable people are agreeing about.
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In this case we are agreeing on the nature of reality.

And we are mostly right.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
In this case we are agreeing on the nature of reality.

And we are mostly right.
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Yep, that's what Hitler, Mussolini and Pol Pot thought as well.
 
lurchadams said:
Yep, that's what Hitler, Mussolini and Pol Pot thought as well.
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You cant expect people to talk to you so that you can learn when you accuse them of being evil right out of the gate.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
You cant expect people to talk to you so that you can learn when you accuse them of being evil right out of the gate.
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You're missing the point. Just because you agree with two other people doesn't make you correct or honorable.
 
Verax said:
So if 20 people say they saw Kavanaugh drink excessively and become aggressive, I think a decent opinion would be that he had a drinking problem.

If 10 people claim he had some part in sexual deviance, an opinion could be formed that he had a behavior problem.

If the FBI finds consistency and a common pattern here, it could be reasonably believed Kavanaugh committed acts that preclude him from the Supreme Court.
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And if another 20 people come forward supporting him, which they have, then what conclusion should the FBI reach. Maybe you are not aware how this country works but we don’t condemn people based on other people’s opinion or on the basis of prior actions.
But since you are ok with this I am sure that you also support convicting people of random murders based on people’s opinions and prior gang activities. I mean you must. That is unless you only support this due to the fact that Trump picked him.
 
braindrain said:
And if another 20 people come forward supporting him, which they have, then what conclusion should the FBI reach. Maybe you are not aware how this country works but we don’t condemn people based on other people’s opinion or on the basis of prior actions.
But since you are ok with this I am sure that you also support convicting people of random murders based on people’s opinions and prior gang activities. I mean you must. That is unless you only support this due to the fact that Trump picked him.
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You can't prove a negative. 20 people saying they didn't see anything is not evidence that nothing happened.

Kavanaugh is not fit for the Supreme Court for many reasons. You don't need to convict him as a criminal in the court of law. All that matters is that there is beyond a reasonable doubt that he is not innocent or not fit. Nobody that controversial should be on the court.
 
lurchadams said:
This is obviously a Democratic plot designed to further antagonize and inspire activism on the part of more Democrats.
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No, but it is an attempt to derail the confirmation process until after the mid terms. It was orchestrated by one of the DNC's henchman, someone who has been playing this game since Robert Bork's nomination over 30 years ago.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricki_Seidman

Fake news, I say! In any event, this is a Marxist poll. It's right in the name!
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You need to Gallup to your local Lens Crafter's friend.
 
Verax said:
You can't prove a negative. 20 people saying they didn't see anything is not evidence that nothing happened.

Kavanaugh is not fit for the Supreme Court for many reasons. You don't need to convict him as a criminal in the court of law. All that matters is that there is beyond a reasonable doubt that he is not innocent or not fit. Nobody that controversial should be on the court.
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Please list those many reasons here if you would.
 
American said:
I think you and the rest of your cohorts are going to pay for this in November.
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****...i've been saying that ever since the Ford accusation came out.

Republicans need to mention this ****-eyed crapfest to the crowds at their rallies, using it as a rallying cry for retaliation via the voting booth.
 
truthatallcost said:
Please list those many reasons here if you would.
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1. I hate him cuz my Democrat rep told me to
2. I hate him cuz my Democrat rep told me to
3. I hate him cuz my Democrat rep told me to
4. I hate him cuz my Democrat rep told me to
 
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