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Most Republicans still want Kavanaugh if the charges are true

Conservative said:
* You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
* You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
* You cannot help little men by tearing down big men.
* You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.
* You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
* You cannot establish sound security on borrowed money.
* You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
* You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than you earn.
* You cannot build character and courage by destroying men’s initiative and independence.
* You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they can and should do for themselves.:
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What a load of crap.
 
noonereal said:
Of course it is.
It's hurting you to, me more as I live in NY.

It is piling massive debt on me that I don't want.

I am a fiscal conservative and as such deeply resent my principle growing as my interest rises. Especially when I know that my share of the debt is tiny and my rich neighbors is great.
Also, I just don't need the pennies that will cost me dollars.
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Really? so Donald Trump has piled massive debt on your in NY all by himself? So in your world tax cuts that have shown to grow revenue cause deficits and debt? Have you posted data supporting that claim?
 
Conservative said:
Really? so Donald Trump has piled massive debt on your in NY all by himself?
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No, the entire GOP and many Democrats were complicit.

He piled massive debt on you too just gave you a bigger tax break than me.

So in your world tax cuts that have shown to grow revenue cause deficits and debt?
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This is utter horse crap that I too believed when I was young.

Have you posted data supporting that claim?
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Supporting what claim? That our national debt exploded as a result of Trump's budget? You need verification?
 
noonereal said:
No, the entire GOP and many Democrats were complicit.

He piled massive debt on you too just gave you a bigger tax break than me.




This is utter horse crap that I too believed when I was young.



Supporting what claim? That our national debt exploded as a result of Trump's budget? You need verification?
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Where in the hell did you get your education? I asked for data and you posted opinions. I posted data and you ignored it.

Utter horse crap is the leftwing rhetoric and constant whining and complaining about people keeping more of what they earn which is their money in the first place.

Trump's budget is lower than the previous budget but keep buying the rhetoric and keep allowing others to make a fool out of you.
 
Conservative said:
A pretty good article that because of the author will go unread as content never matters and is always trump by the author

Explaining the Left, Part IV: Leftist Contempt for Middle-Class Values - The Dennis Prager Show
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I read it until I got to the very first paragraph:

When I was in graduate school, I learned a lot about the left. One lesson was that while most liberals and conservatives abide by society’s rules of order and decency, most leftists do not feel bound to live by these same rules.
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So he starts off by spewing dishonest bull****. No need to read further. But I did:

I watched the way leftist Vietnam War protesters treated fellow students and professors. I watched left-wing students make “nonnegotiable demands” of college administrations. I saw the Black Panthers engage in violence – including torture and murder – and be financially rewarded by leftists.

Today, we watch leftist mobs scream profanities at professors and deans, and shut down conservative and pro-Israel speakers at colleges. We routinely witness left-wing protesters block highways and bridges; scream in front of the homes of conservative business and political leaders; and surround conservatives’ tables at restaurants while shouting and chanting at them.

Conservatives don’t do these things. They don’t close highways, yell obscenities at left-wing politicians, work to ban left-wing speakers at colleges, smash the windows of businesses, etc.
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Well, no, conservatives in his era just turned the firehoses on blacks peacefully marching for their rights, blew up little girls in churches, and killed civil rights workers trying to register blacks to vote. I mean, if stereotyping entire groups of people based on the actions of a few is good for the goose, it's good for the gander.

Why do leftists feel entitled do all these things? Because they have thoroughly rejected middle-class, bourgeois and Judeo-Christian religious values. Leftists are the only source of their values. Leftists not only believe they know what is right – conservatives, too, believe they are right – but they also believe they are morally superior to all others. Leftists are Ubermenschen – people on such a high moral plane that they do not consider themselves bound by the normal conventions of civics and decency. Leftists don’t need such guidelines; only the non-left – the “deplorables” – need them.
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This is beyond stupid, and kind of hilarious. He claims moral superiority over half the country - over leftists - then whines in the SAME PARAGRAPH that leftists believe they are morally superior. You can't make up that kind of stupid. Why does this moron have a job writing for any audience?

In August 2017, University of Pennsylvania law professor Amy Wax wrote a column for the Philadelphia Inquirer in defense of middle-class values. She and her co-author cited a list of behavioral norms that, as Wax, put it, “was almost universally endorsed between the end of World War II and the mid-1960s.”
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For her left-wing colleagues at Penn Law School, this list was beyond the pale. About half of her fellow professors of law – 33 of them – condemned her in an open letter. And Wax wrote in the Journal, “My law school dean recently asked me to take a leave of absence next year and to cease teaching a mandatory first-year course.”
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Well, no, he's lying. They didn't condemn her for the list, but for her overt embrace of white European supremacy, in the article and in follow up comments. Much of what she said would be routine if said by David Duke, including minimizing the problems of Jim Crow in this era that she wants to go back to, as if the systemic racism of the era, much of is state-mandated, was just a minor annoyance, barely worth a mention at all.

Is there an equally prominent conservative public figure on the right who has ever said “F— Obama!” on national television just as Robert De Niro shouted, “F— Trump!” at the recent Tony Awards?
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Ding ding ding!! Ted Nugent for $1,000!

There surely are mean conservatives – witness some of the vile comments by anonymous conservative commenters on the internet. And it is a moral scandal that Ford has received death threats. The difference in left-wing meanness is the meanness of known –- not anonymous – people on the left. They don’t hide behind anonymity because they do not feel bound by traditional notions of civility, for which they have contempt.
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Where in the hell does this guy live? Has he never listened to Mark Levin? Rush Limbaugh? Watched Fox News? Seen the already mentioned Ted Nugent, board member of NRA in action?

Etc. There's a good reason to ignore that hack.
 
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JasperL said:
I read it until I got to the very first paragraph:
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in this country one is innocent until prove guilty and speculation on guilt isn't justification for any decision of support or condemnation. Wonder how you would respond if a family member was charged with a similar issue and no documented or proven evidence against them?
 
Conservative said:
in this country one is innocent until prove guilty and speculation on guilt isn't justification for any decision of support or condemnation. Wonder how you would respond if a family member was charged with a similar issue and no documented or proven evidence against them?
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Don't hurt yourself moving those goal posts around C. Dennis Prager is a dishonest hack. If you want to defend his BS, be my guest, but you posted that swill, and all I did was show why it's rational to ignore guys like him, because they don't engage in honest discussion.
 
JasperL said:
Don't hurt yourself moving those goal posts around C. Dennis Prager is a dishonest hack. If you want to defend his BS, be my guest, but you posted that swill, and all I did was show why it's rational to ignore guys like him, because they don't engage in honest discussion.
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so are most liberals but that doesn't stop you from posting their lies, distortions, and radical opinions. You then are a lot like that, refusing to engage in honest discussion as actual data and results have no place in your world and that liberal utopia is still not within reach
 
Slavister said:
Irrelevant answer. The poll question asked a hypothetical situation.

P.S. Whether it's true or not, you have no idea and AGAIN does not matter to the question of the poll.
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No. the Premise of your entire "so called poll" is irrelevant.

Usually a negative cant be proven. But in this case the facts have proven as mush as possible Kavanagh innocent.
 
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