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American Bar Association: Delay Kavanaugh until FBI investigates assault allegations

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Washington (CNN)The American Bar Association is calling on the Senate Judiciary Committee to halt the consideration of President Donald Trump's Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh until an FBI investigation is completed into the sexual assault allegations that have roiled his nomination.

Logic 101 - This makes complete sense. Investigate the charges. If true, the go after Kavanaugh with full force of the law. If false, then go after Ford the same way.

Somebody committed perjury here, and whoever it turns out to be should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/27/politics/kavanaugh-american-bar-association/index.html
 
That's self serving BS in more than one way.

She cannot even prove where the house is.

The 4 witnesses that she said were present when the attack occurred all have zero recollection of any incident like this, or being there at all.

ajn678 is spot on.

What's left? Hearsay about some young jocks and a yearbook?
 
She cannot even prove where the house is.

The 4 witnesses that she said were present when the attack occurred all have zero recollection of any incident like this, or being there at all.

ajn678 is spot on.

What's left? Hearsay about some young jocks and a yearbook?

So much fear.
 
You equate this to fear?

Why not stop with the Bullcrap .............and give us your own insight or facts instead.

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Spare me.
 
Logic 101 - This makes complete sense. Investigate the charges. If true, the go after Kavanaugh with full force of the law. If false, then go after Ford the same way.

Somebody committed perjury here, and whoever it turns out to be should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/27/politics/kavanaugh-american-bar-association/index.html

We already saw a public investigation. We saw how memories stacked up against written calendars.
 
Mike Judge at least needs to be interviewed by someone who is actually interested in establishing the facts. That would be the first step to pinning down the particulars.
 
Logic 101 - This makes complete sense. Investigate the charges. If true, the go after Kavanaugh with full force of the law. If false, then go after Ford the same way.

Somebody committed perjury here, and whoever it turns out to be should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/27/politics/kavanaugh-american-bar-association/index.html

No one had to commit perjury here. Ms. Ford could be mis-remembering due to transference and Kavanaugh could be telling the truth. They're both 100% sure that they are telling the truth. Perjury is about purposefully lying. I don't think either one is lying.
 
A statement with no evidence does not deserve an investigation.

Bull. One of the points of an investigation is to find out if there's any evidence. The police do it all the time.
 
No one had to commit perjury here. Ms. Ford could be mis-remembering due to transference and Kavanaugh could be telling the truth. They're both 100% sure that they are telling the truth. Perjury is about purposefully lying. I don't think either one is lying.

Ms, Ford was not "misremembering". She was simply ignored and dismissed. Judge Kavanaugh, who more than six times references her friend Ms. Kayser, declared that Ms. Kayser sworn under penalty of felony that she did not recall the party in question, tweeted to Dr. Ford that all she did was, because of her own poor health, tell her attorney to handle to matter for her because of her own health issues. Ms. Kayser's attorneys then released a statement that they, not Ms. Kayser released, saying that she "did not recall the party in question and had nothing further to add."

In reality, Ms. Kayser texted Dr. Ford saying that her attorneys released a statement that had never been signed by her, that did not accurately relate the information she knew at the time, because she personally had told her attorney that she didn't know anything relevant and did not with to testify before the committee.
 
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Ms, Ford was not "misremembering". She was simply ignored and dismissed. Judge Kavanaugh, who more than six times references her friend Ms. Kayser, declared that Ms. Kayser sworn under penalty of felony that she did not recall the party in question, tweeted to Dr. Ford that all she did was, because of her own poor health, tell her attorney to handle to matter for her because of her own health issues. Ms. Kayser's attorneys then released a statement that they, not Ms. Kayser released, saying that she "did not recall the party in question and had nothing further to add."

In reality, Ms. Kayser texted Dr. Ford saying that she that her attorneys released a statement that had never been signed by her, that did not accurately relate the information she knew at the time, because she personally had told her attorney that she didn't know anything relevant and did not with to testify before the committee.

Link to any of this please.
 
Link to any of this please.

Oh, BS, it's in the Senate Committee Record, look it up for yourself. I watched it, I heard it first hand. If you didn't, then google one of the many videos that reveal what really happened, then try to defend it. I know what I saw, what I heard; if you did not, there are myriad cable channels and videos that you can use to pretend that those of us who watched every minute of what happened was a "lie", and what and what Lindsay Graham screeched to the rooftops is god's plan for the Jesus-blessed republican party.

The only problem is that Judge Cavanaugh was lying, and Dr. Ford was not.
 
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Ms, Ford was not "misremembering". She was simply ignored and dismissed. Judge Kavanaugh, who more than six times references her friend Ms. Kayser, declared that Ms. Kayser sworn under penalty of felony that she did not recall the party in question, tweeted to Dr. Ford that all she did was, because of her own poor health, tell her attorney to handle to matter for her because of her own health issues. Ms. Kayser's attorneys then released a statement that they, not Ms. Kayser released, saying that she "did not recall the party in question and had nothing further to add."

In reality, Ms. Kayser texted Dr. Ford saying that her attorneys released a statement that had never been signed by her, that did not accurately relate the information she knew at the time, because she personally had told her attorney that she didn't know anything relevant and did not with to testify before the committee.

Ms. Forde was invited, attended, and testified before the Senate committee.
She obviously wasnt ignored.

Most likely her testimony will be dismissed however. And thats because the four people, or two people or five people whom she claims were wittnesses have stated they were not there. Not having relevent testimony is also a claim of not being there.
 
No one had to commit perjury here. Ms. Ford could be mis-remembering due to transference and Kavanaugh could be telling the truth. They're both 100% sure that they are telling the truth. Perjury is about purposefully lying. I don't think either one is lying.

Has Kavanaugh at least taken a polygraph?

Ford freely took one in August because she was sure of her memory. And according to her memory of the event, she passed (though FOX News really tried to get the retired agent who gave Ford the polygraph test to discredit it and wants to focus on key details in order scrap the event entirely.)

It seems to me that a polygraph for Kavanaugh would help him if he is also sure of his denial of the event. That would pretty much kill it in the world of opinion.
 
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Ms, Ford was not "misremembering". She was simply ignored and dismissed. Judge Kavanaugh, who more than six times references her friend Ms. Kayser, declared that Ms. Kayser sworn under penalty of felony that she did not recall the party in question, tweeted to Dr. Ford that all she did was, because of her own poor health, tell her attorney to handle to matter for her because of her own health issues. Ms. Kayser's attorneys then released a statement that they, not Ms. Kayser released, saying that she "did not recall the party in question and had nothing further to add."

In reality, Ms. Kayser texted Dr. Ford saying that her attorneys released a statement that had never been signed by her, that did not accurately relate the information she knew at the time, because she personally had told her attorney that she didn't know anything relevant and did not with to testify before the committee.

I’m not sure if you are ignorant or just ....

Ford has claimed many different things about the incident. When it happened, how many were involved, etc.

If you aren’t open to the possibility that Ford was raped and that Kavanuagh had nothing to do with it then you are a partisan hack.

And judging by your previous posts...
 
We already saw a public investigation. We saw how memories stacked up against written calendars.

We also saw many indications of Kavanaugh's bad temper repeatedly as well as his political bias.Maybe he hit the booze before testifying and during the breaks.
 
I’m not sure if you are ignorant or just ....

Ford has claimed many different things about the incident. When it happened, how many were involved, etc.

If you aren’t open to the possibility that Ford was raped and that Kavanuagh had nothing to do with it then you are a partisan hack.

And judging by your previous posts...

Oh, for Christ sake, Dr. Ford has never stated that she was raped. WTF is wrong with you? She claims only that she was sexually assaulted, and managed to escape under her own power, and perhaps with the help of Marc Judge, who refuses to testify to this committee what he knows, what he remembers and what happened.

I am neither ignorant nor ... (you wouldn't complete your sentence)...

Ms Ford has NEVER stated that she was raped. NEVER. She coherently, calmly, courageously, revealed the details of what happened to her, and who the two individuals who did this to her are..
 
Logic 101 - This makes complete sense. Investigate the charges. If true, the go after Kavanaugh with full force of the law. If false, then go after Ford the same way.

Somebody committed perjury here, and whoever it turns out to be should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/27/politics/kavanaugh-american-bar-association/index.html

Hers the problem: democrats arent going to vote for him no matter what any investigation uncovers. If dems were interested in an honest inquiry and an honest process then a deeper investigation might be worthwhile. But they arent, so its not.
 
We also saw many indications of Kavanaugh's bad temper repeatedly as well as his political bias.Maybe he hit the booze before testifying and during the breaks.

He started out with a conscious decision to take the fight to the Dems...and he did. And yes, he was angry. I don't blame him. I'd be angry too if I was the victim of targeted attacks against me and my family for nothing more than political purposes. He effectively identified those Dems in his opening statement.

After that, he showed those Dem Senators that he wasn't going to take **** from them without giving them some **** right back. Leahy didn't know what hit him. But he went a bit too far with Klobuchar...he apologized...and he dialed back his rhetoric. But he had already made his point. Those Senators couldn't touch him after that.

He didn't show any "bad temper". He showed justified anger. He didn't show "political bias". He exposed the Dem's callous attempt to disrupt the Senate confirmation process that gave no care to the effects of their attempt on the lives of others.
 
Hers the problem: democrats arent going to vote for him no matter what any investigation uncovers. If dems were interested in an honest inquiry and an honest process then a deeper investigation might be worthwhile. But they arent, so its not.

How about the Republicans?. Are they interested in an honest inquiry and an honest process for a deeper investigation that might be worthwhile?
 
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