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Friend of Kavanaugh accuser speaks in her defense (video)

Saladin4 said:
Gosh he "denied" it.......So America should just let it go and let this Radical Right Wing ideologue get confirmed with 50 votes...Sure
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Yep. That’s how justice works.
 
Moot said:
Without an FBI investigation into the matter, neither does Kavanaugh.
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The FBI already dismissed this allegation as something to investigate. Are you saying they are wrong or not doing their jobs?
 
Moot said:
Yup, investigative journalism. So glad we still have it.

Hard to say if there isn't anyone else. But if there is, she'd have to be a very brave woman to come forward and risk her life like Ford has.

Perhaps as more women come forward to speak on Ford's behalf it will give other women the courage to come forward who may've been assaulted by Kavanaugh and Judge also. I dunno, I just have a feeling this ain't even close to being over. At least I hope not.
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You've already made up your mind that he's guilty by saying 'as' instead of 'if'. I don't think it would matter to you at all if no other person came forward.
 
The Mark said:
Why believe him over her?


Serious question generally, a bit less so in this case because the potential political benefits of her story make many question her veracity.


Maybe it's just my perspective, but the trend appears to be towards believing the accused over the accuser.
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Because that is the way the system works. You don't ruin lives over unprovable claims. Don't be Alex Jones... is that too much too ask?
 
apdst said:
The burden of proof is on the accuser.
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We're not in a court of law, it's the burden of persuasion is on the accuser.

When push comes to shove, whoever has the more convincing story will win.

But, the deck is stacked against Ford, the senate is in the tank for Kavanaugh.
 
holbritter said:
The FBI already dismissed this allegation as something to investigate. Are you saying they are wrong or not doing their jobs?
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that's interesting, the FBI was perfectly willing to investigate Anita Hill's accusation, and they had less to work with with her.

If asked by the prez or Sen Grassley, they'd investigate.
 
holbritter said:
You've already made up your mind that he's guilty by saying 'as' instead of 'if'. I don't think it would matter to you at all if no other person came forward.
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Moot wrote "may have..." you should take it at face value. Thing is, given that men who attempt to rape, tend to be the kind if men who have done it more than once, i.e., they have a problem in that department, so it's reasonable to assert there may be more women forthcoming. That doesn't mean to say he is automatically guilty. We shall see. An investigation is needed to bring out the facts as best as they can be brought out, and done by professionals. The FBI have pros who do nothing but investigate sex crimes, they know what questions to ask, and to get at the truth, whatever that truth may be, and so forth.
 
jmotivator said:
Because that is the way the system works. You don't ruin lives over unprovable claims. Don't be Alex Jones... is that too much too ask?
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If she is not telling the truth, and investigation will bear it out, and kavanaugh will be exonerated. No one's life is being ruined. If anyone's life is going to be ruined, it far more likely that Ford's llife will be ruined, or at least dragged through the mud, for what they are about to put her through, just as they did for Anita Hill. What she is facing, with nothing to gain, knowing that the senate is in the tank for Kavanaugh, I'm more inclined to believe her.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.msnbc.com/andrea-mitche...-speaks-in-her-defense-1324353603954?v=railb&

Samantha Guerry describes the reputation for credibility of her longtime friend Christine Blasey Ford, who has accused Judge Brett Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her when they were in high school.
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Dig a little deeper & the FBI could put this entire case against Kavanaugh to rest in less than a week according to former FBI experts on MSNBC tonight. There were multiple witnesses & students who learned about the attack after. The party, the attack - both happened.

Kavanaugh should be the one with the courage to call for the FBI probe, not that wimp philanderer in the WH.
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When I read what Kavanaugh's friends say about him, it reminds me of when the new team interviews the neighbors of a captured serial killer. The neighbors typically are shocked, saying, "he seemed to be such a nice quiet man."

When Kavanaugh's team says that Ford only recently dreamed up these allegations, the facts are not on their side.
 
OscarLevant said:
If she is not telling the truth, and investigation will bear it out, and kavanaugh will be exonerated. No one's life is being ruined. If anyone's life is going to be ruined, it far more likely that Ford's llife will be ruined, or at least dragged through the mud, for what they are about to put her through, just as they did for Anita Hill. What she is facing, with nothing to gain, knowing that the senate is in the tank for Kavanaugh, I'm more inclined to believe her.
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Whether she is telling the truth or not she has presented no actionable details to investigate. Her only offered source of corroboration is her psychologist's notes and they don't even match her claim! "Oh, well the psychologist's notes are wrong!" she says... :roll:

At the point where she is invalidating her own provided evidence it is time to walk away. What you insist must be done to satisfy your curiosity is not normal or rational.

"I need my story told!" she says... "OK, tell your story." .. "NO! YOU MONSTER!! How can you ask me to tell my story!"

Shut the circus down.
 
JacksinPA said:
Dig a little deeper & the FBI could put this entire case against Kavanaugh to rest in less than a week
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If that were the goal, Feinstein wouldn't have sat on this for 2 months, and Kavanaugh wouldn't have let her. Think people.
 
Moot said:
Perhaps as more women come forward to speak on Ford's behalf
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We have dozens of women that have come to speak out on behalf of Kavanaugh, and one that has come out to speak on behalf of Ford. Perhaps that says something right there?
 
The Mark said:
thinking that no matter the means, preventing Kavanaugh from being a SCOTUS Judge will protect the justice system.
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I commend you for at least being honest about your motivations. That's more than can be said for many.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
I gotta say, I don’t really care about Ford’s or Kavanaugh’s character references with regard to this allegation.
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100% agree with you here. I'm not a fan of "vilify the accuser", but at the same time that means attempting to lionize the accuser doesn't act as compelling "evidence" for me as well.

You can't, out one side of your mouth, say you can't question or criticize aspects of the accuser in an attempt to delegitimize their accusation, while out the other side of your mouth point to compliments and superlatives about the character of the accuser in an attempt to legitimize it.

If she wants a Law Enforcement investigation into this, the attack would still be within the statute of limitations in Maryland; she can file an official police report. Otherwise, these accusations aren't really a law enforcement matter, nor a national security matter, and no "investigation" needs to be done from such a body, especially at a Federal level. She can tell her story, she can testify, she can try to make a compelling enough argument that it sways Senators; but ultimately Kavanaugh is not charged, let alone guilty, of any crime and there is no expectation what so ever that accusations (contested ones at that) are objectively grounds for disqualification from nomination.
 
Taylor said:
We have dozens of women that have come to speak out on behalf of Kavanaugh, and one that has come out to speak on behalf of Ford. Perhaps that says something right there?
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I agree that Kavanaugh is probably a decent guy who went astray as a teenager. Just admit it, and let's move on.
 
Media_Truth said:
I agree that Kavanaugh is probably a decent guy who went astray as a teenager. Just admit it, and let's move on.
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Oh, I think most of us moved on when Ford stated her refusal to back up her claims.
 
OscarLevant said:
that's interesting, the FBI was perfectly willing to investigate Anita Hill's accusation, and they had less to work with with her.
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The allegations by Anita Hill were concerning a federal supervisor harassing a federal employee. What's more, the interview occurred as part of the routine background check done on nominees. It was during that interview that her allegations was made. The interview was not done BECAUSE of the allegations, but rather because it is routine in background checks for investigators to speak to various individuals that have relationships with the individual, such as co-workers or subordinates.

This is a VERY different situation than the case with Ford.

First, the issue of jurisdiction to conduct an actual investigation into this SPECIFIC issue is highly questionable. There's no federal standing in this case (this isn't an instance of two federal employees at the time being involved in the criminality). Second, Hills accusations came as part of an interview during the standard investigation while what Ford is asking/demanding is for an additional effort, above and beyond the standard investigation, be engaged in simply because she's made the accusation.

Acting as if the two situations are identical and that they should be treated identical is foolishness.
 
OscarLevant said:
We're not in a court of law, it's the burden of persuasion is on the accuser.

When push comes to shove, whoever has the more convincing story will win.

But, the deck is stacked against Ford, the senate is in the tank for Kavanaugh.
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Ford stacked the deck against herself.
 
Media_Truth said:
Just "no memory". No mention of whether he was at the party. Political rhetoric...
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Another person whom she named as "PJ" was contacted by the Washington Post. He sent a letter back to the Judiciary committee denying that the party she claims he was at with her ever happened. For those counting, that's 3 of the 6 people that she states was there deny they were there and that what she said occurred actually occurred.
 
Ford was drunk! By her own admission.

Heck, she can't remember details that assault victims could never forget!
 
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