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Man charged with murder in killing of star Iowa State golfer

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https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...te-golfer-celia-barquin-arozamena/1343218002/

A 22-year-old man has been charged with murder in the killing of a former Iowa State University student-athlete who was found dead Monday at an Ames, Iowa, golf course, police said.

Collin Daniel Richards, who authorities said has no known address, was charged with first-degree murder in the death of 22-year-old Celia Barquin Arozamena, Ames police said late Monday night.

A native of Puente San Miguel, Spain, Arozamena had an infectious smile and a bubbly personality

Okay, so to recap. About a month ago a young white American girl was murdered by a Latino immigrant in Iowa. This was used by Trump and his disgusting supporters to argue for a wall, and to justify treating all immigrants like garbage.

This week a young Spanish immigrant girl was murdered by a white American citizen in Iowa.

Why is one of these a tragedy that requires the attention of the President, but the other is not? Why should one of these criminals be treated radically different than the other? What do these killers have common? They're violent men. It doesn't matter where they were born they were still violent men who thought it would be fun to rape and kill a beautiful young woman. The country of origin of the killers and the victims are irrelevant. There doesn't appear to be any evidence to conclude that racism was a driving force behind either crime.
 
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...te-golfer-celia-barquin-arozamena/1343218002/





Okay, so to recap. About a month ago a young white American girl was murdered by a Latino immigrant in Iowa. This was used by Trump and his disgusting supporters to argue for a wall, and to justify treating all immigrants like garbage.

This week a young Spanish immigrant girl was murdered by a white American citizen in Iowa.

Why is one of these a tragedy that requires the attention of the President, but the other is not? Why should one of these criminals be treated radically different than the other? What do these killers have common? They're violent men. It doesn't matter where they were born they were still violent men who thought it would be fun to rape and kill a beautiful young woman. The country of origin of the killers and the victims are irrelevant. There doesn't appear to be any evidence to conclude that racism was a driving force behind either crime.

Because one involved someone dying at the hands of a person that shouldn't have been in the country, ergo it was preventable. How do you prevent this death?

I'll wait while you think on that.
 
So the point of the OPer is that if our borders were secure and immigration laws enforced neither murder would have happened, correct?
 
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...te-golfer-celia-barquin-arozamena/1343218002/





Okay, so to recap. About a month ago a young white American girl was murdered by a Latino immigrant in Iowa. This was used by Trump and his disgusting supporters to argue for a wall, and to justify treating all immigrants like garbage.

This week a young Spanish immigrant girl was murdered by a white American citizen in Iowa.

Why is one of these a tragedy that requires the attention of the President, but the other is not? Why should one of these criminals be treated radically different than the other? What do these killers have common? They're violent men. It doesn't matter where they were born they were still violent men who thought it would be fun to rape and kill a beautiful young woman. The country of origin of the killers and the victims are irrelevant. There doesn't appear to be any evidence to conclude that racism was a driving force behind either crime.

This poor girl's body was found only yesterday. Mollie Tibbetts was missing for more than a month, and her family sought out media attention to help bring her home, making her disappearance an international story for a month. Then, her killer led police to her body, and he turned out to be here illegally. THAT made news too.

BTW, how do you know that the killer here was male? Maybe it was a jealous female competitor.
 
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...te-golfer-celia-barquin-arozamena/1343218002/





Okay, so to recap. About a month ago a young white American girl was murdered by a Latino immigrant in Iowa. This was used by Trump and his disgusting supporters to argue for a wall, and to justify treating all immigrants like garbage.

This week a young Spanish immigrant girl was murdered by a white American citizen in Iowa.

Why is one of these a tragedy that requires the attention of the President, but the other is not? Why should one of these criminals be treated radically different than the other? What do these killers have common? They're violent men. It doesn't matter where they were born they were still violent men who thought it would be fun to rape and kill a beautiful young woman. The country of origin of the killers and the victims are irrelevant. There doesn't appear to be any evidence to conclude that racism was a driving force behind either crime.

Arozomena is a white girl. Nice try playing the race card, though.
 

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Wow this thread escalated quickly HAHAHAHAAh
 
I think the point is the first killer was demonized and made public because of his race and immigration status. This killer was a white guy and ignored.

You want to deport American white boys?
 
Because one involved someone dying at the hands of a person that shouldn't have been in the country, ergo it was preventable. How do you prevent this death?

I'll wait while you think on that.

Somehow I don't think her family is consoled by the fact their daughter/sister/friend ect was murdered by a white guy.
 
Somehow I don't think her family is consoled by the fact their daughter/sister/friend ect was murdered by a white guy.

I think you are missing the point as well.

A murder is a murder is a murder, you may never solve this issue.

if this 'White" guy was a legal resident he legally walks among us and is still a criminal.

The Other guy was illegally in our country, potentially preventable and could have saved Mollies life.

BOTH are tragic deaths.... BOTH committed by heinous individuals but ONE was potentially avoidable. that is the difference
 
Arozomena is a white girl. Nice try playing the race card, though.

You seem to be confused, it was Trump who played the race card. Did you not read the OP, or did you not understand it?
 
I think you are missing the point as well.

A murder is a murder is a murder, you may never solve this issue.

if this 'White" guy was a legal resident he legally walks among us and is still a criminal.

The Other guy was illegally in our country, potentially preventable and could have saved Mollies life.

BOTH are tragic deaths.... BOTH committed by heinous individuals but ONE was potentially avoidable. that is the difference

But in other places the presence of an "illegal" would prevent a murder, because the victim was not alone.

From the studies I've seen immigrants commit less violent crimes than native born Americans, so having more immigrants actually makes the USA a safer place.
 
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Because one involved someone dying at the hands of a person that shouldn't have been in the country, ergo it was preventable. How do you prevent this death?

I'll wait while you think on that.

Should whites have been here, Renae?
 
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...te-golfer-celia-barquin-arozamena/1343218002/





Okay, so to recap. About a month ago a young white American girl was murdered by a Latino immigrant in Iowa. This was used by Trump and his disgusting supporters to argue for a wall, and to justify treating all immigrants like garbage.

This week a young Spanish immigrant girl was murdered by a white American citizen in Iowa.

Why is one of these a tragedy that requires the attention of the President, but the other is not? Why should one of these criminals be treated radically different than the other? What do these killers have common? They're violent men. It doesn't matter where they were born they were still violent men who thought it would be fun to rape and kill a beautiful young woman. The country of origin of the killers and the victims are irrelevant. There doesn't appear to be any evidence to conclude that racism was a driving force behind either crime.

What you leave out is an illegal alien murdered a young white American girl in Iowa. There is the difference and that is why the president got involved. A person who should of not been here murdered a US citizen.
A person who broke our laws on immigration. A federal law! And it seems that the democratic party could not care a whit. They want open open borders and sanctuary cities. Oh and lets not forget they want to get rid of ICE!!
 
Wtf is happening to this planet.

nothing, look at history of humanity, this violence and evil has occurred throughout all of human history. Evne worse, much of it was supported by the masses
 
But in other places the presence of an "illegal" would prevent a murder, because the victim was not alone.

From the studies I've seen immigrants are less violent than native born Americans, so having more immigrants actually makes the USA a safer place.

A criminal is a criminal is a criminal THERE IS NO studies ever that will EVER justify a criminal act more so MURDERING a person

Last month was the MOST VIOLENT month in Chicago, I think it was like 13+ killed and 72 shot in a month How much news did EACH of the 13 people get headlined.

YES unfortunately we HAVE people that walk among us that are criminals MORE so murders. BUT to tack on insult to injury if you are HERE illegally MEANING YOU SHOULD NOT BE here in the first place (strike one) then commit a heinous crime (strike 2) and it could have been preventable? Its OK because immigrants are LESS found to commit crimes.


Yes like the Florida Teen, called twice to the FBI PREVENTABLE and still was able to commit a heinous crime. ZERO justification.

This women lost her life to an animal and should be punished to the extent of the LAW PERIOD, why it matters if the President chimes in or NOT. is TOTALLY besides the facts...
 
Because one involved someone dying at the hands of a person that shouldn't have been in the country, ergo it was preventable.
So if we made it illegal for white men to be in the country we could prevent this one too right?

Also, you seem to be forgetting that the immigrant killer was in the country legally. He was employed on a farm run by a prominent Iowan Republican Family.

So your solution to preventing the first death was to kick out all the immigrants, even the ones here legally. Here's another problem with that, the most recent victim was also an immigrant. If we kicked her out too as you suggest we should then the white male citizen that killed her would have undoubtedly killed a different young female golfer. The result? The same number of young American girls being murdered by ****ty white men as before.

How do you prevent this death?
Well, we could start by deporting all white men. That would be the equivalent solution to the one offered by you to prevent the other one.

Or we could try focusing on the violent nature of too many young men. This white citizen had a record of violence. The latino killer did not. There was nothing in his history that indicated violent tendencies at all. It was a complete surprise to everyone who knew him. This white citizen on the other hand literally told a friend of his that he wanted to kill and rape a golfer the week before while walking by the exact same golf course.

Studies tend to show that child abuse tends to lead to violence down the road. The exact types of discipline and corporal punishments that are still all too prevalent among many rural white conservatives families and many African American families as well.
 
You seem to be confused, it was Trump who played the race card. Did you not read the OP, or did you not understand it?

The OP obviously believes that everyone from Spain has brown skin and black hair.
 
I think you are missing the point as well.

A murder is a murder is a murder, you may never solve this issue.

if this 'White" guy was a legal resident he legally walks among us and is still a criminal.

The Other guy was illegally in our country, potentially preventable and could have saved Mollies life.

BOTH are tragic deaths.... BOTH committed by heinous individuals but ONE was potentially avoidable. that is the difference

How so? Are you saying that death couldn't happen if Republicans didn't bring workers over to work here illegally (which is why he was here)? Because my point is that the nationality of a person doesn't change the crime. Murder is murder. These girls are both dead. Both families lost a loved one.
 
I think you quoted the wrong person as your failed attempt at a response doesn't actually address my post.

Read post 19, then get back with me.
 
So if we made it illegal for white men to be in the country we could prevent this one too right?

Also, you seem to be forgetting that the immigrant killer was in the country legally. He was employed on a farm run by a prominent Iowan Republican Family.

So your solution to preventing the first death was to kick out all the immigrants, even the ones here legally. Here's another problem with that, the most recent victim was also an immigrant. If we kicked her out too as you suggest we should then the white male citizen that killed her would have undoubtedly killed a different young female golfer. The result? The same number of young American girls being murdered by ****ty white men as before.


Well, we could start by deporting all white men. That would be the equivalent solution to the one offered by you to prevent the other one.

Or we could try focusing on the violent nature of too many young men. This white citizen had a record of violence. The latino killer did not. There was nothing in his history that indicated violent tendencies at all. It was a complete surprise to everyone who knew him. This white citizen on the other hand literally told a friend of his that he wanted to kill and rape a golfer the week before while walking by the exact same golf course.

Studies tend to show that child abuse tends to lead to violence down the road. The exact types of discipline and corporal punishments that are still all too prevalent among many rural white conservatives families and many African American families as well.

Mexican isn't a race.

Is the ink wearing off that race card, yet?
 
Arozomena is a white girl. Nice try playing the race card, though.

Saying racism wasn't a driving force for either crime is playing the "race card"?

Wouldn't it be playing the not "race card"? Or is the "not race card" still part of the "race card"?
 
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