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Philando Castile’s mom rips into NRA’s Dana Loesch

anyone who thinks this dishonest anti NRA bs is motivated by anything other than liberals upset with the NRA defeating democrats is out of their minds. do you claim PP and NARAL are not defending rights but selling abortions?
Your post makes zero sense. The NRA can't defeat anyone because it is not a party. Unless of course you're finally admitting the NRA is just another wing of the GOP.

I think you did.

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that is far more stupid a comment than I was expecting. If a cop wanders into your home with no warrant and starts shooting at you, I can guarantee you have the legal right to return fire. She wasn't there serving a warrant and got the wrong address. She did not identify herself as a cop when she entered the apartment because she thought it was hers.

Preventing confused folks from 'wandering into your home' can be done by *gasp* locking your door.
 
that is far more stupid a comment than I was expecting. If a cop wanders into your home with no warrant and starts shooting at you, I can guarantee you have the legal right to return fire. She wasn't there serving a warrant and got the wrong address. She did not identify herself as a cop when she entered the apartment because she thought it was hers.

TD, you need to learn the specifics of this case. The cops lawyers are alleging she was investigating a crime, and the door was open - kill a cop while they're investigating a crime, and you know what they start preparing you for, right?

C'mon, say it with me.

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YES I said it in 4 post now I concede your POINT of COP killer.

Lmao, okay good. I didn't read the rest of your spastic argument. Why would you ever dispute that killing a cop investigating a supposed crime makes one a cop killer?

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Good for Philando's mother for speaking out and she is absolutely right.

Also, off topic but just saw something about Loesch putting KKK sheets on Thomas the Train, wtf they losing it over there or what?

Dana Loesch is the NRA's distraction. She is clearly paid to say the most outrageous things as a distraction. Just don't know what she is distracting from now.
 
Dana Loesch is the NRA's distraction. She is clearly paid to say the most outrageous things as a distraction. Just don't know what she is distracting from now.
Obviously she's bringing attention to the SJW conspiracy to have a train made in Kenya appear on a show about trains that talk, and have opinions on friendship.

Some people are retarded, that's just life.

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Lmao, okay good. I didn't read the rest of your spastic argument. Why would you ever dispute that killing a cop investigating a supposed crime makes one a cop killer?

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PLEASE show me a report that The Officer was "Investigating a supposed crime" The reports state she did NOT realize she was in the wrong apartment. OR are you insinuating that "because the didnt realize it was NOT her aparment, she thought someone broke into her's" HOW convenient no? JEEZUS. I dont even know why your point is. Are you protecting the Officer or the Botham that was killed.


Again You ignore full context of post only to respond what fits your narrative. Sad that you cannot have an honest debate...."I did not read... I did not read" ok ok I got it you are actually intentionally blind to facts/context and specificity if it does NOT fit your view..... got it.


meaning your post threads and responses are completely USELESS as you are UN-willing to hear out full context

Good day exiting thread as the OP is useless to debate with .
 
Obviously she's bringing attention to the SJW conspiracy to have a train made in Kenya appear on a show about trains that talk, and have opinions on friendship.

Some people are retarded, that's just life.

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  1. It makes no sense to gripe about this because it makes no sense in general.
  2. Why is the NRA releasing public commentary on kids shows and ethnicity? What does any of that have to do with guns?

This is why I think it's a distraction game she is playing.
 
PLEASE show me a report that The Officer was "Investigating a supposed crime" The reports state she did NOT realize she was in the wrong apartment.

https://www.scribd.com/document/388...idavit-for-Dallas-police-officer-Amber-Guyger

That's her affidavit, she believed she had encountered a burglar - do you think that means she wasn't investigating what was going on?

Please shorten your posts to meaningful sentences, I tend to ignore verbal spasms.

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https://www.scribd.com/document/388...idavit-for-Dallas-police-officer-Amber-Guyger

That's her affidavit, she believed she had encountered a burglar - do you think that means she wasn't investigating what was going on?

Please shorten your posts to meaningful sentences, I tend to ignore verbal spasms.

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Thank you! That helps! I truly appreciate it!


1) While I respect your request this is a public forum and I will respond in which way deserves a FULL contextual response. so if you do NOT like it you should not create threads you are UNWILLING to respond to.

2) reading the REPORT in all fairness your assumption is FAIR. The police entered a unit that was similar and under the unique key ID and lock the door was ajar. ALL in favor of the officer

3) HERE is my contentious argument, Unit 1378 vs Unit 1478. This is NOT a ghetto. These are LUXURY Flats https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1210-S-Lamar-St_Dallas_TX_75215_M70048-1045
3a) Freaking 2016 Year built meaning its 2 years old.
3b) She was 1 floor above, NOT even on the correct floor. HOW did she arrive on the WRONG floor, meaning SHE parked on the 4th floor, which was wrong. how did she miss that. 2 if she lived there coherently long enough you know your neighbors and vehicles as well (AS a LEO usually your sense of surrounding is MUCH higher than your normal civilian) So no cars parked or odd cars parked or cars you NEVER recognized were on a different level?

4) Again the affidavit does NOT describe the error of arriving @ the 4th floor rather than her living floor.

This is a Huge hole that I questions, something STILL smells fishy...... "my spider senses are tingling" Botham lives directly above, I wonder if they ever had a spat between the 2 due to noise or something....... Super fishy...
 
LOL OK OK .... First off the way you PUT it does make it look bad....

But can we FIRST off try to put logic and Context? Debating only of course.


OK What did Dana Loesch actually say?

""This could have been very different if Botham Jean had been, say, he was a law-abiding gun owner and he saw somebody coming into his apartment,"

Does not say anything about being a cop killer for one. 2 The CONTEXT of this situation WOULD actually be justified as well.

The officer SOME how entered an apartment that was NOT her's WHAT if she was not an officer and just a random person. The fact was she entered uninvited. This may have been ruled if in the opposite way stand your ground and legal at worse maybe negligent manslaughter.


Second follow up Statement

"I don't think there’s any context that the actions would have been justified. If I see somebody coming into my house and I’m not expecting them and they’re walking in like they own the place, I would—I would act to defend myself."


THIS specific incident, would acutally Likely WARRANT Dana's Statement.

I am NOT supporting a wild west situation. But this one is REALLY REALLY odd. Officer enters an apartment not hers... how and WTF?

YES if I was in my Home legal firearms owner and someone came in abruptly shouting and screaming UN Warranted the likelyhood to defend myself is LIKELY justified.


So again... before demonizing... lets take logic and context to specifics rather than blanking, Cop Killer blah balh....



Me(whiny liberal) - "I don't like it when you add context to what I said."


You - "why"


Me(whiny liberal) - "Because it tears apart my argument and makes me look like an idiot!"
 
Me(whiny liberal) - "I don't like it when you add context to what I said."


You - "why"


Me(whiny liberal) - "Because it tears apart my argument and make me look like an idiot!"


LOL look at this thread, OP openly admitted to NOT reading 3 of my post.... lack there of to dispute FACTS rather than rhetoric unfortunately
 
LOL look at this thread, OP openly admitted to NOT reading 3 of my post.... lack there of to dispute FACTS rather than rhetoric unfortunately



I know. Our friends on the other side can be quite absurd at times.
 
I know. Our friends on the other side can be quite absurd at times.

If they want to be incendiary thats fine, thats their right. BUT they should be expect to be debated and then "CALLED" out for their comments. At the least try to defend it rather than say Im ignoring you....after saying something incendiary.... if not seems pretty childish...."you Ugly.... nah nah nah I cant hear you nah nah nah....." jeezus
 
Thank you! That helps! I truly appreciate it!


1) While I respect your request this is a public forum and I will respond in which way deserves a FULL contextual response. so if you do NOT like it you should not create threads you are UNWILLING to respond to.

2) reading the REPORT in all fairness your assumption is FAIR. The police entered a unit that was similar and under the unique key ID and lock the door was ajar. ALL in favor of the officer

3) HERE is my contentious argument, Unit 1378 vs Unit 1478. This is NOT a ghetto. These are LUXURY Flats https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1210-S-Lamar-St_Dallas_TX_75215_M70048-1045
3a) Freaking 2016 Year built meaning its 2 years old.
3b) She was 1 floor above, NOT even on the correct floor. HOW did she arrive on the WRONG floor, meaning SHE parked on the 4th floor, which was wrong. how did she miss that. 2 if she lived there coherently long enough you know your neighbors and vehicles as well (AS a LEO usually your sense of surrounding is MUCH higher than your normal civilian) So no cars parked or odd cars parked or cars you NEVER recognized were on a different level?

4) Again the affidavit does NOT describe the error of arriving @ the 4th floor rather than her living floor.

This is a Huge hole that I questions, something STILL smells fishy...... "my spider senses are tingling" Botham lives directly above, I wonder if they ever had a spat between the 2 due to noise or something....... Super fishy...
You write so much nonsense, you've totally ignored I'm on your side. The claims made by the police officer don't make sense. You're right. They don't make sense. What had been demonstrated is that she claimed to be investigating a crime.



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You write so much, you've totally ignored I'm on your side.

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LOL Im assuming that means you actually read my post...

Honestly though I am not defending a side.

The Officer F*ed up bad and ended a life. circumstantial..... grey blurry and honestly a @#$% situation.

Victim, needlessly lost their life..... bad situation,

THERE does not indicate malice at this time... so involuntary manslaughter or just manslaughter, similar to what a drunk driver gets for killing someone in a car accident. BAD DUMBASS choices... but not intended to end ones life.....



AGAIN with respect your Original POST.

Dana Lousche. I PERSONALLY am a legal armed citizen. If this situation played out exactly. I would then be an armed citizen in the safety and security of my home and may REACT in a way. WOULD I want to be called a "COP Killer" by your terms in respect to unknowingly defending myself and my LIFE in the confines of my home? THAT is the point...
 
Me(whiny liberal) - "I don't like it when you add context to what I said."


You - "why"


Me(whiny liberal) - "Because it tears apart my argument and makes me look like an idiot!"

Oh look, another conservative who can’t handle the real world and has to tell himself stories to cope.
 
Title is too long, so I had to shorten it.

Full title is this:

Philando Castile’s mom rips into NRA’s Dana Loesch for suggesting Dallas man killed by cop in his own home might still be alive if he owned gun

Philando Castile?s mom rips into NRA?s Dana Loesch for suggesting Dallas man killed by cop in his own home might still be alive if he owned gun - NY Daily News


The NRA essentially has two answers for people shot by police. You either become a cop killer and you take your chances with the justice system OR they remain completely silent. I am glad the Castile family hasn't remained silent in the aftermath of Botham Jean's senseless killing. They're highlighting the glaring hypocrisy of the American justice system when it comes to exactly what actions justify civilians being allowed to kill others.

Don’t be so judgemental. I suppose the NRA would also recommend that all drivers, especially black ones, should have a gun in their lap at the traffic stop to make sure things go well when the officer approaches and asks for their license.
 
So by Context and situation. Dribble or NOT

What if it was NOT a cop but just another person. They enter your home un invited screaming at you to get on the ground. Take out the hyperbole of Cop killer....

The officer made a grave mistake entering the WRONG apartment. Why would you? I want to know more details, How long was she living there, "the Door was Ajar" how is the layouts? Exactly the same door and apartment layout? as I know many are MIRROR if they are next door never the exact same design.

ANYWAYS the point is demonizing Mrs. Lousche's comment in the context of being a cop killer does not help solve or prevent future crimes BUT perpetuates more violence. So why dont we CALL the COP a murder? ......She killed someone officer or not.... because there are context and processes....
I been thinking about how someone can that kind of mistake. One reasonable explication is say you live in apart 5B but accidently got off on the 4th floor and thought 4B was your apt

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I been thinking about how someone can that kind of mistake. One reasonable explication is say you live in apart 5B but accidently got off on the 4th floor and thought 4B was your apt

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The Affidavit provide by the OP states that she DROVE her car to the 4th floor which the floor corresponded with the units


1378 - 3rd floor - Her Unit
1478 - 4rh floor - Botham


STILL again she had to pull in a stall, Botham was home meaning DID he have a car? SO since she lives directly below him, HIS car would have been Parked in HIS stall how did she PARK on the 4th floor in the exact SAME spot of Botham was HOME?

Also multiple cars when you drive past and or park your neighbors cars dont change over night? Was she not paying attention as well? Pretty bad as a cop?

Again though it Botham was home did he have a car, his car should have been parked in the stall assuming the stall layouts are exactly the same floor by floor same as the Apartment layouts floor by floor? Again fishy.... huh?
 
The Affidavit provide by the OP states that she DROVE her car to the 4th floor which the floor corresponded with the units


1378 - 3rd floor - Her Unit
1478 - 4rh floor - Botham


STILL again she had to pull in a stall, Botham was home meaning DID he have a car? SO since she lives directly below him, HIS car would have been Parked in HIS stall how did she PARK on the 4th floor in the exact SAME spot of Botham was HOME?

Also multiple cars when you drive past and or park your neighbors cars dont change over night? Was she not paying attention as well? Pretty bad as a cop?

Again though it Botham was home did he have a car, his car should have been parked in the stall assuming the stall layouts are exactly the same floor by floor same as the Apartment layouts floor by floor? Again fishy.... huh?
Anything is possible but yes it all seems unlikely. In any case I don't see how she isn't convicted of of manslaughter at the very least. She may of thought she was defending her home but she was wrong. There really is no defending her mistake

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LOL OK OK .... First off the way you PUT it does make it look bad....

But can we FIRST off try to put logic and Context? Debating only of course.


OK What did Dana Loesch actually say?

""This could have been very different if Botham Jean had been, say, he was a law-abiding gun owner and he saw somebody coming into his apartment,"

Does not say anything about being a cop killer for one. 2 The CONTEXT of this situation WOULD actually be justified as well.

The officer SOME how entered an apartment that was NOT her's WHAT if she was not an officer and just a random person. The fact was she entered uninvited. This may have been ruled if in the opposite way stand your ground and legal at worse maybe negligent manslaughter.


Second follow up Statement

"I don't think there’s any context that the actions would have been justified. If I see somebody coming into my house and I’m not expecting them and they’re walking in like they own the place, I would—I would act to defend myself."


THIS specific incident, would acutally Likely WARRANT Dana's Statement.

I am NOT supporting a wild west situation. But this one is REALLY REALLY odd. Officer enters an apartment not hers... how and WTF?

YES if I was in my Home legal firearms owner and someone came in abruptly shouting and screaming UN Warranted the likelyhood to defend myself is LIKELY justified.


So again... before demonizing... lets take logic and context to specifics rather than blanking, Cop Killer blah balh....

What? The context is that a police officer walked into someone else's apartment and shot him to death. The NRA responded by saying that he should have shot first. That's worth demonizing.
 
The NRA is a lobbying group for 2nd amendment rights. The right to keep and bear arms. That would include the right to purchase arms to keep and bear.

The other side. Whenever a firearm is used, the banners pull out the usual we must ban something card. Hillary, Hoggy. Hatuey. It doesn't matter.

Who called for a gun ban?
 
If those 'mentally ill' have been adjudged to pose a danger to themselves or others then why are they allowed to roam freely among us? If those 'mentally ill' have not been adjudged to pose a danger to themselves or others then why are should their rights be restricted in any manner?

It's not possible to lock up everyone with a mental illness.
 
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