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Thousands of bottles of FEMA water abandoned in Puerto Rico on unused runway for months

marke said:
People can cry out to the government for relief or they can call on God for deliverance. I am happy to let the world seek relief from crummy sources if that is what they want. I will trust God for deliverance.
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I'm sure people there prayed for water. God didn't deliver either.
 
holbritter said:
I'm sure people there prayed for water. God didn't deliver either.
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There are instructions for proper praying in order to get desired answers. Those instructions from God are in the Bible.
 
marke said:
There are instructions for proper praying in order to get desired answers. Those instructions from God are in the Bible.
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Such a loving and caring God to let all those innocents die because they didn't 'do it properly'
 
marke said:
There are instructions for proper praying in order to get desired answers. Those instructions from God are in the Bible.
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Sure there are instructions in the Bible. There are also instructions on how to pray in the Koran and in the Bhagavad Gita, and in the the Book of Rites, in the Talmud, and in virtually every little pagan off-shoot cult. They all list the "proper" way to pray -- according them -- and all those ways are different.

And, none of them are worth two cents. If they were, the righteous would not be dying of cancer, going bankrupt, and falling on hard times.

But, whatever blows your hair back.
 
holbritter said:
Such a loving and caring God to let all those innocents die because they didn't 'do it properly'
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God does let people die - all people. You can either blame God, the devil or natural selection, depending on what you put your trust in.
 
HowardBThiname said:
Sure there are instructions in the Bible. There are also instructions on how to pray in the Koran and in the Bhagavad Gita, and in the the Book of Rites, in the Talmud, and in virtually every little pagan off-shoot cult. They all list the "proper" way to pray -- according them -- and all those ways are different.

And, none of them are worth two cents. If they were, the righteous would not be dying of cancer, going bankrupt, and falling on hard times.

But, whatever blows your hair back.
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Barbarians in the days of Elijah also tried motivating their own man-made false gods to show some power, but those duds could not because they were fakes.
 
marke said:
People can cry out to the government for relief or they can call on God for deliverance. I am happy to let the world seek relief from crummy sources if that is what they want. I will trust God for deliverance.
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God forgot to pay for my $625 cardiac drug last month, oops. I think the government can do something about pharmaceutical companies and big oil companies being paid to influence our lawmakers in Washington to approve of bills that serve their interests not the interests of those people who are finding it extremely difficult to make ends meet on a limited income with the skyrocketing cost of prescription drugs.
 
marke said:
All nations that forget God will be turned into hell. America is not exempt but, of course, Christians in America still fight the wicked barbarians at the gate seeking to fundamentally change America into an image more in line with degenerate ungodly atheistic or false religionist civilizations.
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:doh

One-third of Americans, both those who say they believe in God and those who say they don't, trust in a higher power or spiritual force. There's hardly any place on the planet that people don't believe in some sort of higher power. Throughout history, complex societies had evolved without belief in all-powerful deity. As soon as you have a large society generating lots of goods and services, this wealth can be put to use by someone who can grab the reins of power. The most immediate way to do this is to align yourself with a supreme deity and then make lists of things people can and cannot do, and these become ‘morals’ when applied to our social behavior.
 
According to FEMA those pallets were "excess" that wasn't needed and was being stored elsewhere. In Jan they moved them to the air field to save money on storage. In April the PR govt asked for any excess they had, but after delivering 700 cases there were complaints of a bad smell and taste so they stopped delivering that water and returned it to FEMA.
 
wolfsgirl said:
According to FEMA those pallets were "excess" that wasn't needed and was being stored elsewhere. In Jan they moved them to the air field to save money on storage. In April the PR govt asked for any excess they had, but after delivering 700 cases there were complaints of a bad smell and taste so they stopped delivering that water and returned it to FEMA.
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Then I guess they weren't really thirsty, then.
 
ClaraD said:
Would you drink contaminated water?
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It tastes funny because it's sat out in the sun in a plastic bottle. It's not contaminated, that's not how plastic breaks down.

If you were dying of thirst, and someone handed you one of those bottles, you'd drink it without a moments hesitation, and it would taste like the best thing you've ever had.
 
KevinKohler said:
It tastes funny because it's sat out in the sun in a plastic bottle. It's not contaminated, that's not how plastic breaks down.

If you were dying of thirst, and someone handed you one of those bottles, you'd drink it without a moments hesitation, and it would taste like the best thing you've ever had.
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According to some studies leaving bottled water in the sun can cause bpa to leech into the water. Some studies say it doesn't.
 
KevinKohler said:
It tastes funny because it's sat out in the sun in a plastic bottle. It's not contaminated, that's not how plastic breaks down.

If you were dying of thirst, and someone handed you one of those bottles, you'd drink it without a moments hesitation, and it would taste like the best thing you've ever had.
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I wouldn't give it to my kids. The crap that is in plastic is not good for you. The bottles sat in hot Texas sun for MONTHS where temps sometimes reach up to 115 degrees....then they sent it to PR...sorry, but Flint tells us not all water should be drank.
 
wolfsgirl said:
According to some studies leaving bottled water in the sun can cause bpa to leech into the water. Some studies say it doesn't.
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Yep. And breathing the air in cities or urban areas can cause cancer.


At the end of the day, if you are dying of thirst, you'll drink just about anything, let alone bottled water that ONE study contends MIGHT have chemicals in it from plastic.
 
ClaraD said:
I wouldn't give it to my kids. The crap that is in plastic is not good for you. The bottles sat in hot Texas sun for MONTHS where temps sometimes reach up to 115 degrees....then they sent it to PR...sorry, but Flint tells us not all water should be drank.
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If they were dying of thirst you would.

If there were concrete evidence of that plastic being a health hazard, there would be a warning on the bottle, along with safe handling instructions. It's a legal requirement.
 
KevinKohler said:
If they were dying of thirst you would.

If there were concrete evidence of that plastic being a health hazard, there would be a warning on the bottle, along with safe handling instructions. It's a legal requirement.
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First, it is ridiculous that we cannot even manage to send potable water to Puerto Rico and then we are upset that they didn't drink the damned contaminated stuff we sent them...problem is...they likely would have..if we had actually given it to them....we didn't give it to them...it sat on a Tarmac owned by the FEDS and the FEDS decided not to distribute it.
 
ClaraD said:
First, it is ridiculous that we cannot even manage to send potable water to Puerto Rico and then we are upset that they didn't drink the damned contaminated stuff we sent them...problem is...they likely would have..if we had actually given it to them....we didn't give it to them...it sat on a Tarmac owned by the FEDS and the FEDS decided not to distribute it.
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I agree with this, except the contaminated part.

Same thing happened after Charley. And Katrina. Took days, weeks, in some cases, to distribute water. And FL ain't an island.

As to the "contaminated" water...jury is still out on that.
 
KevinKohler said:
I agree with this, except the contaminated part.

Same thing happened after Charley. And Katrina. Took days, weeks, in some cases, to distribute water. And FL ain't an island.

As to the "contaminated" water...jury is still out on that.
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I sat in NRG the day after Harvey drowned all of us. I wondered why in the hell they didn't tell us to evacuate....they said not to....and people were saying crap on line, like well ya'll were told to evacuate why didn't you leave...um, no we were told to stay put that it wasn't going to hit us and wasn't going to be more than a little storm with a little rain. It hit us TWICE and we received 52 inches in less than a day. We had water, potable water in NRG...we had food too..not super delicious food, but we had something....it wasn't the best, but we also were given shoes, clothing, diapers and someone was able to replace my medications and get my god son his milk that he needed via G tube feedings...they even came up with the bags we needed so I didn't have to risk him getting a deadly infection and brought me a substitute oxygen for his trach. If we had been in Puerto Rico, he would have died.
 
HumblePi said:
Amid the uproar over President Donald Trump's claim of an "unsung success" in the government's response to the hurricane in Puerto Rico last year comes the odd report of a stockpile of tens of thousands of abandoned bottles of water sitting on an unused runway in Puerto Rico for almost nine months. Roughly 38 millions bottles of drinking water.

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Photos of the long stretch of bottles wrapped in blue plastic on about 20,000 pallets surfaced earlier this week. CBS News, which broke the story, said the photos were taken by Abdiel Santana, who works with the United Forces of Rapid Action agency of the Puerto Rican Police.

Carlos Mercader, executive director of the Puerto Rico Federal Affairs Administration, said in a statement that the bottles were not delivered to the government of Puerto Rico during last year's emergency because they were in the custody of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) until April 2018.

He said a career official for the General Services Administration in Puerto Rico (GSA) requested FEMA's inventory of excess water this year through a federal program on April 17 and was given approval to use the supplies on April 26, 2018.

But by the time 700 bottles were distributed, the water was undrinkable, with residents complaining of its foul smell and taste.

Many people in Puerto Rico had no access to potable drinking water so they resorted to drinking rain water or water flowing from rocks or in streams that was contaminated by animal feces or hazardous waste. No doubt that many people may have died, particularly invalid or older people, from bacterial infections caused by drinking impure water out of desperation.
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Break time is over for Mr. Musk; we need drone technology to distribute goods and services.
 
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