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San Juan mayor dismisses Trump's 'unsung success' view of Maria response

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...trumps-unsung-success-view-of-maria-response-

SAN JUAN (Reuters) - San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz, a vocal critic of U.S. President Donald Trump’s treatment of Puerto Rico in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria, rejected his characterization of the administration’s response as being an “unsung success.”

Cruz told Reuters on Wednesday that people facing Hurricane Florence, a slow-moving Category 3 storm due to hit the Carolinas, could die unless Trump learned lessons a year ago when Maria slammed into the U.S. commonwealth.

“The world has seen and the majority of the American people have seen how neglectful he was towards the people of Puerto Rico. If he calls a success or an unsung success 3,000 people dying by his watch, definitely he doesn’t know what success is,” Cruz said.
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Trump hates criticism even more than when it comes from a powerful woman he already detests.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...trumps-unsung-success-view-of-maria-response-

SAN JUAN (Reuters) - San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz, a vocal critic of U.S. President Donald Trump’s treatment of Puerto Rico in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria, rejected his characterization of the administration’s response as being an “unsung success.”

Cruz told Reuters on Wednesday that people facing Hurricane Florence, a slow-moving Category 3 storm due to hit the Carolinas, could die unless Trump learned lessons a year ago when Maria slammed into the U.S. commonwealth.

“The world has seen and the majority of the American people have seen how neglectful he was towards the people of Puerto Rico. If he calls a success or an unsung success 3,000 people dying by his watch, definitely he doesn’t know what success is,” Cruz said.
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Good, **** Trump.

Does he deny the people are dead? Or, just assert that it wasn't his fault?
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...trumps-unsung-success-view-of-maria-response-

SAN JUAN (Reuters) - San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz, a vocal critic of U.S. President Donald Trump’s treatment of Puerto Rico in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria, rejected his characterization of the administration’s response as being an “unsung success.”

Cruz told Reuters on Wednesday that people facing Hurricane Florence, a slow-moving Category 3 storm due to hit the Carolinas, could die unless Trump learned lessons a year ago when Maria slammed into the U.S. commonwealth.

“The world has seen and the majority of the American people have seen how neglectful he was towards the people of Puerto Rico. If he calls a success or an unsung success 3,000 people dying by his watch, definitely he doesn’t know what success is,” Cruz said.
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Trump hates criticism even more than when it comes from a powerful woman he already detests.
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how many threads about this hurricane are you gonna make? how many have you made today?
 
biglawnmower said:
how many threads about this hurricane are you gonna make? how many have you made today?
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Are you suddenly the hall monitor? 'Pass, please.'
 
Awaiting the blame-the-victim posts in 3...2...1...
 
Phys251 said:
Awaiting the blame-the-victim posts in 3...2...1...
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I hope not. Fact is Maria was a devastating storm and PR was really poorly situated to handle it. Considering the logistics in getting supplies, equipment and people where they needed to be is a staggering undertaking. I heard a FEMA spokesperson on MSNBC or Fox saying they for the first time ever they requested authorization to perform deferred maintenance on PR's infrastructure as they were working there. The island was a mess and the outcome was never going to be as rosy and happy as some seem to expect. I really hope they take steps to be more prepared for the next hurricane.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...trumps-unsung-success-view-of-maria-response-

SAN JUAN (Reuters) - San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz, a vocal critic of U.S. President Donald Trump’s treatment of Puerto Rico in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria, rejected his characterization of the administration’s response as being an “unsung success.”

Cruz told Reuters on Wednesday that people facing Hurricane Florence, a slow-moving Category 3 storm due to hit the Carolinas, could die unless Trump learned lessons a year ago when Maria slammed into the U.S. commonwealth.

“The world has seen and the majority of the American people have seen how neglectful he was towards the people of Puerto Rico. If he calls a success or an unsung success 3,000 people dying by his watch, definitely he doesn’t know what success is,” Cruz said.
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Interesting. She is far more responsible for deaths and devastation than Trump is.
 
GDViking said:
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I don’t think that’s what Trump is saying. If Wacky Wendy is dancing in the hurricane and gets clobbered by debris then that’s one for the hurricane. But if Diabetes Dave dies of complications of his disease 8 months later - why should he be included in the death toll? The same question was asked of the revised Katrina death toll because it included people who evacuated to another state prior to the hurricane and died of natural causes while there. And no one is revising the 9/11 death toll to include first responders and workers who have died of illnesses related to their work at ground zero in the years since. Where the line is drawn when officials use a chain of causation to revise death tolls is completely arbitrary. That is and always has been an objection against revised death tolls.
If you include Diabetes Dave then you’re no longer measuring deaths resulting from the hurricane, but subjectively including random things that happen to people afterwards because of a pre-existing condition for example. I wouldn’t include Diabetes Dave. He’s dead ultimately because he spent 30 years shoveling soda and potato chips down his gullet. Maybe it’s semantics but measuring the impact of a specific event shouldn’t mean including every deceased person just because there’s a remote connection to it. If you want to measure deaths resulting from federal or local incompetence then that’s a different count.
 
dcsports said:
Interesting. She is far more responsible for deaths and devastation than Trump is.
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That's a pretty reckless, not to mention completely without justification, claim that I've heard yet about San Juan's Mayor Cruz yet. How can you possibly claim such an outrageous lie? What evidence do you have that proves that? You're just making up stuff now without even thinking first?
 
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Napoleon said:
I don’t think that’s what Trump is saying. If Wacky Wendy is dancing in the hurricane and gets clobbered by debris then that’s one for the hurricane. But if Diabetes Dave dies of complications of his disease 8 months later - why should he be included in the death toll? The same question was asked of the revised Katrina death toll because it included people who evacuated to another state prior to the hurricane and died of natural causes while there. And no one is revising the 9/11 death toll to include first responders and workers who have died of illnesses related to their work at ground zero in the years since. Where the line is drawn when officials use a chain of causation to revise death tolls is completely arbitrary. That is and always has been an objection against revised death tolls.
If you include Diabetes Dave then you’re no longer measuring deaths resulting from the hurricane, but subjectively including random things that happen to people afterwards because of a pre-existing condition for example. I wouldn’t include Diabetes Dave. He’s dead ultimately because he spent 30 years shoveling soda and potato chips down his gullet. Maybe it’s semantics but measuring the impact of a specific event shouldn’t mean including every deceased person just because there’s a remote connection to it. If you want to measure deaths resulting from federal or local incompetence then that’s a different count.
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I managed a home respiratory company for years. We had over 250 patients receiving home oxygen and 3 patients on home ventilators because they could not breathe without the assistance of a mechanical ventilator. Christopher Reeves was one of my patients on a ventilator. In the event of an impending storm, our servicemen has to quickly deliver enough oxygen tanks to use in the event of a power failure to last 48 hours. Two days is all we could provide and was usually adequate since power is usually restored within hours, not days.

Any person that is dependent on a home ventilator was given extra battery backups so if the power was down, the battery provided the electricity for the ventilator. When that battery died, the backup was used and again never generally needed because power would be restored before that backup battery was necessary.

Any elderly person is more susceptible to illness from drinking unclean or unfiltered drinking water. The discovery of 38 million bottles of drinking water that sat on the landing runway of an airport in Puerto Rico for eight months possibly contributed to many hundreds of deaths. People had no drinking water and no way to purify the water they collected from rain or in streams. The water they found was contaminate with animal feces, and toxic chemicals but they had nothing else to drink. People developed bacteria infections that resulted in diarrhea and vomiting which further dehydrated them. Any infirmed, elderly or physically compromised person, whether it's a baby of five months or a person of 85 will very often succumb to dehydration just from the lack of pure drinking water.

For any person that's dependent on daily insulin injections and have none to inject, they can live possibly 10-14 days without. Some diabetics will develop ulcers and other areas of skin breakdowns that will become infected over time without medical care.
 
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This bitch spent more time in front of microphones complaining when she could've been helping her people.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...trumps-unsung-success-view-of-maria-response-

SAN JUAN (Reuters) - San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz, a vocal critic of U.S. President Donald Trump’s treatment of Puerto Rico in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria, rejected his characterization of the administration’s response as being an “unsung success.”

Cruz told Reuters on Wednesday that people facing Hurricane Florence, a slow-moving Category 3 storm due to hit the Carolinas, could die unless Trump learned lessons a year ago when Maria slammed into the U.S. commonwealth.

“The world has seen and the majority of the American people have seen how neglectful he was towards the people of Puerto Rico. If he calls a success or an unsung success 3,000 people dying by his watch, definitely he doesn’t know what success is,” Cruz said.
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Cruz shoulders part of the blame.
 
HumblePi said:
That's a pretty reckless, not to mention completely without justification, claim that I've heard yet about San Juan's Mayor Cruz yet. How can you possibly claim such an outrageous lie? What evidence do you have that proves that? You're just making up stuff now without even thinking first?
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Cruz shares zero responsibility?
 
Cruz has complained from the beginning. What she should realize is success in responding to a natural disaster starts at the lowest level of government. Since she is critical of the Federal governments response as a failure it shows she also failed.
 
HumblePi said:
That's a pretty reckless, not to mention completely without justification, claim that I've heard yet about San Juan's Mayor Cruz yet. How can you possibly claim such an outrageous lie? What evidence do you have that proves that? You're just making up stuff now without even thinking first?
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So withholding supplies doesn't constitute responsibility. Okaaaayyyyy.

Have you ever been to Puerto Rico? Getting vehicles into the far reaches is not like driving down a street in the US.... Their power grid was old and poorly managed. But none of that is Mayor Cruz's responsibility, of course.
 
GottaGo said:
So withholding supplies doesn't constitute responsibility. Okaaaayyyyy.

Have you ever been to Puerto Rico? Getting vehicles into the far reaches is not like driving down a street in the US.... Their power grid was old and poorly managed. But none of that is Mayor Cruz's responsibility, of course.
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Heck it is probably Trump's fault they had a hurricane in the first place.:lamo Local officials and the PR government share in any faults in the emergency response. They are responsible for the old and outdated power grid.
 
HumblePi said:
That's a pretty reckless, not to mention completely without justification, claim that I've heard yet about San Juan's Mayor Cruz yet. How can you possibly claim such an outrageous lie? What evidence do you have that proves that? You're just making up stuff now without even thinking first?
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Reckless? Seriously? And you accuse me of lying three times? Really?

For starters, she's the mayor of San Juan, and is responsible for the utter lack of preparation and poor response there. Just from that standpoint, she's far more responsible for the disaster following the hurricane than anyone in Washington.

She was widely criticized (and it was a big deal) for being virtually absent following the hurricane and not working with FEMA and other relief agencies. She wouldn't even participate in the disaster coordination calls.
 
She's dumb as a hammer.
 
1) Kinda disappointing that Trump commented on the Death toll numbers. This one I think he should STFU and let the facts speak NOW. regardless WHAT the count is 64 or 3000 he has tainted the point that the numbers where WRONG period. Regardless showing the lack of accountability in Puerto Rico. With his comments he turned it partisan. Dumbass.

2) The Mayor is a MORON....the more she talks the more I personally dont like here. Her situation, her people and all she wants to do is blame Trump. Shes just short of actually blaming the Hurricane as Trumps fault.

3) SO much corruption. PERIOD..... NO if ands or buts. This is a common case of handouts/welfare. With that I will say I am VERY familiar with the public assistance model, I have lived through it as well as experienced it both family members as well as myself period. There are 2 inherent issues (NOT demonizing anyone ON it... just stating factual experiences)

3a) When given assistance, many people should be finding a way to get OFF of it, NOT building their life around it. Which unfortunately does NOT happen. Meaning, I walk into section 8 housing and what do I see, BMW's, Mercedes, Escalades on 22's. NO thats not visitors.... Because they do NOT have to pay for their housing they can spend it on Luxuries. its not counted towards their income.... nor is Iphones, I phones services shoes and bags
3b) Instead of trying to MAKE more money so to become self sustainable. "Oh NO" I dont want more hours, or a raise, because that will disqualify me from benefits....or I need more children. You can deny it all you want this is TRUTH
3c) THIS goes with the Puerto Rico, It surely has its poverty stricken areas as well as it failing infrastructure. How much can we actually pay into a location that is KNOWN for its failed infrastructure and RAMPANT Corruption? We are just enabling the same people that were FOUND to steal money from those that REALLY need it.


Anyways, YES Puerto Rico needs the assistance, NO doubt or questions. BUT how can you comfortably say so and do so KNOWING that it will likely be squandered? As we have just seen, death tolls off, water on tarmacs, 2 leaders found embezzling funds
 
dcsports said:
Reckless? Seriously? And you accuse me of lying three times? Really?

For starters, she's the mayor of San Juan, and is responsible for the utter lack of preparation and poor response there. Just from that standpoint, she's far more responsible for the disaster following the hurricane than anyone in Washington.

She was widely criticized (and it was a big deal) for being virtually absent following the hurricane and not working with FEMA and other relief agencies. She wouldn't even participate in the disaster coordination calls.
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None of that matters.
The only reason this thread exists and why certain people are acting like they care is so they can attaclk Trump. Who is actuality responsible or fixing the problem so it doesn't happen again really doesn't matter to them.
 
apdst said:
Cruz shares zero responsibility?
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Tell me please, how you plan to substantial your accusation that Cruz shares any responsibility or blame for the inadequate response of the U.S?

mike2810 said:
Cruz has complained from the beginning. What she should realize is success in responding to a natural disaster starts at the lowest level of government. Since she is critical of the Federal governments response as a failure it shows she also failed.
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That's all mumbo-jumbo and a bunch of powerless words. If you want to make a case that Cruz in any way didn't take actions or adequate measures on behalf of San Juan or the entire island for that matter, I'd like to hear what you think those omissions or 'faults' taken by Cruz were.

I'd really like to know how any island can prepare for an advancing catastrophic hurricane that's going to hit them square on. I don't think that many people, particularly our president, can grasp how utterly devastating this event was to that island. It will never regain what it lost and will alter the lives of those living there forever.
 
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JacksinPA said:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...trumps-unsung-success-view-of-maria-response-

SAN JUAN (Reuters) - San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz, a vocal critic of U.S. President Donald Trump’s treatment of Puerto Rico in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria, rejected his characterization of the administration’s response as being an “unsung success.”

Cruz told Reuters on Wednesday that people facing Hurricane Florence, a slow-moving Category 3 storm due to hit the Carolinas, could die unless Trump learned lessons a year ago when Maria slammed into the U.S. commonwealth.

“The world has seen and the majority of the American people have seen how neglectful he was towards the people of Puerto Rico. If he calls a success or an unsung success 3,000 people dying by his watch, definitely he doesn’t know what success is,” Cruz said.
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Yet the PR government let thousands of bottles of water sit on a runway for 9 months. Yet it's Trump that was neglectful.
 
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