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Dallas officer enters apartment she mistakes for her own, fatally shoots man inside

dirtpoorchris said:
So she thought it was her own house but definitely shot someone that didnt have a weapon or hadnt assaulted her yet. Shes a criminal. Its illegal to shoot a person that doesnt have a weapon and isnt assaulting you. Shes a criminal murderer.

So the key is 20% responsible and she is 80% responsible. You don't execute someone sitting in your house, you draw you gun on them and tell them to get out. I hope her entire pension goes to his family.
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I expect the door was either open or the guy opened the door to see what was happening. I have done both in the past when I lived in a condo and someone was trying to use a key to open the door, once or twice people walked in thinking it was a different apartment. Of course I did not get shot from it
 
Kal'Stang said:
Just can't help but see race in everything can you? There is already an arrest warrant out for the officer that shot the dude. Per the link in the OP. The Dallas PD even brought in an outside agency to handle everything. Yet this is all that you can do. Shameful...and racist.
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Well all she has to do is say he was resisting arrest and should be out in a jiffy.
 
dirtpoorchris said:
Well thats good hopefully she gets double the max sentence for perverting the public trust and shooting an unarmed person that hadnt assaulted her (they call that EXECUTION). (she executed him)
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How do you know he was not armed and raising hell with her?
 
Robertinfremont said:
How do you know he was not armed and raising hell with her?
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Then she would have had enough time to realize it wasnt actually her apartment, apologize. And back out so she doesnt get shot. HE HAS A RIGHT TO RAISE HELL WITH HER. SHE SHOULDNT HAVE EXTRA RIGHTS JUST BECAUSE SHES AN OFF DUTY COP. She needs to go to prison.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
The guy is black the female officer is white, her key was found in the lock of the guys apartment, the one he was shot in
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Why does his color matter? But thanks if that is accurate. Are you saying her key fit his lock? We can't understand how this took place because none of us saw her apartment nor his.

Say his was on the 2nd floor and hers above his. She is confused for some reason and thinks she as it her place above his. I don't know what happened. I do not want to pass judgement at this point.

If it is murder, she will be charged for that.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Does not matter, she illegally entered his apartment. He had every right to get her out of his place
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You and I both know that much. We do not know all of the story. We could not know given we were not at the two apartments in that city.
 
Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, the only reason this is a topic of discussion is because the victim was "an unarmed black man shot by a cop".

If she wasn't a cop, there would be no political value and this discussion wouldn't be happening.


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dirtpoorchris said:
Its voluntary manslaughter, murder. The guy sat there without a weapon in his had. Got shocked and made an angry face. And she shot him without ever seeing a weapon. Shes a criminal.
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Remove your hatred and emotion and think like an intelligent reasoned rational human being. ****...the amount of personal hatred and bigotry you people put into your arguments is sickening.
 
Robertinfremont said:
Why does his color matter? But thanks if that is accurate. Are you saying her key fit his lock? We can't understand how this took place because none of us saw her apartment nor his.

Say his was on the 2nd floor and hers above his. She is confused for some reason and thinks she as it her place above his. I don't know what happened. I do not want to pass judgement at this point.

If it is murder, she will be charged for that.
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The key would fit the lock but not open it
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Well if she's not white she might actually see the inside of a prison cell. We'll see.
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But you couldnt help yourself.

How many of the cops charged in the Freddie Grey case were non-white?
 
Grim17 said:
Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, the only reason this is a topic of discussion is because the victim was "an unarmed black man shot by a cop".

If she wasn't a cop, there would be no political value and this discussion wouldn't be happening.


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It would get attention if the person who did the shooting did not get charged. Regardless of race
 
Kreton said:
There has to be more to this. Manslaughter doesn't make sense IMO. Murder 2 sounds more appropriate if there are not more details. This lady doesn't know her own apt? She also thought that someone swapped out her furniture? I cannot see any reasonable way this happens.
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Nor I...but thats what investigations are for.
 
I bet it comes out that they had a parking dispute or some crap and then shes really toasted. Or he was on his bed when shot like she creeped through the house.
 
Kreton said:
If someone breaks into my house I can be as armed and raise as much hell as I want. There is no self defense if you break into another persons home.
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True. But if she thought she was in her own place, she did not know he was in his place. Still, my factual point is i know too little to be accurate in my assessment.
 
Robertinfremont said:
Why does his color matter?
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You don't understand why race matters? Have you somehow just exited a bubble wherein you believed we live in utopia?

It's not utopia. Sorry. It's real world and minorities are not treated the same. I know it sucks to put on the big boy pants and deal with an imperfect world, but living in a self serving fantasy isn't helping you or anyone else.
 
VanceMack said:
But you couldnt help yourself.

How many of the cops charged in the Freddie Grey case were non-white?
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Well thank you for reminding us of another case where the police murdered someone with no chance of seeing a prison cell.
 
Robertinfremont said:
Why does his color matter? But thanks if that is accurate. Are you saying her key fit his lock? We can't understand how this took place because none of us saw her apartment nor his.

Say his was on the 2nd floor and hers above his. She is confused for some reason and thinks she as it her place above his. I don't know what happened. I do not want to pass judgement at this point.

If it is murder, she will be charged for that.
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Many times we have seen cops get extra leeway because the jury and people "feel bad for them" even if they are blatantly guilty and making an excuse. So its not a garentee that she will be charged with murder at all. Cops have more rights than us and if one steps on our foot then its not their fault, but ours. They, not the people protesting, make the job harder for good cops.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Consider it experience in watching the aftermath of American police shootings. If you're a betting man, betting on them getting off scot-free is always a good bet.
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like mike brown the attempted cop killer? yea i bet you took his side too..
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
The key would fit the lock but not open it
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There are some doorknobs that when you go to unlock it the doorknob will turn quite easily and thus making it a bit easier to open the door. If the door was already unlocked she might not have realized that the key never actually turned. Especially after a long day at work.

There is of course another explanation that no one has considered yet. At least not in this thread. That being that this was a lovers spat. The two lived in the same building, its possible that they knew each other and had given each other keys. She used the key that he gave her to enter. She's trying to play it off as if they never knew each other.

Either way though this is at best a case of involuntary manslaughter, at worst its murder 1. Either way, she'll be charged, convicted, and sentenced to prison.
 
If forensics shows the guy was in bed when shot or shows that he was sitting in a chair when shot then this lady needs the death penalty. That means she crept through the house before shooting.
 
ecofarm said:
You don't understand why race matters? Have you somehow just exited a bubble wherein you believed we live in utopia?

It's not utopia. Sorry. It's real world and minorities are not treated the same. I know it sucks to put on the big boy pants and deal with an imperfect world, but living in a self serving fantasy isn't helping you or anyone else.
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Bobby is a well-know, rabid and open racist based on his history here.
 
Will be interesting to see what, if any, the charges are.

Any regular citizen carrying and making that mistake would be crucified.

And how do you walk into the wrong apt???
 
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