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Lobbyist pleads guilty, says he helped steer foreign money to Trump inaugural and lied to Congress

Re: https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/31/politics/w-samuel-patten-plea-russia-ukraine/index.html

jet57 said:
So what would you call it?
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Really?
What is the most confusing part for you? That this is about a lobbyist pleading guilty to wrong doing, or the fact that it has not a damn thing to do with any wrong doing on Trump's part?




lurchadams said:
Are you going to answer the question or keep dodging?
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Dodging what? Your irrelevant questions? iLOL
1. Irrelevant questions deserve no direct answer.
2. The answer you received in the form of a question is (a) an answer (regardless if you like it or not), (b) exposes your irrelevant questions for the silliness they are.
 
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Excon said:
Really?
What is the most confusing part for you? That this is about a lobbyist pleading guilty to wrong doing, or the fact that it has not a damn thing to do with any wrong doing on Trump's part?




Dodging what? Your irrelevant questions? iLOL
1. Irrelevant questions deserve no direct answer.
2. The answer you received in the form of a question is (a) an answer (regardless if you like it or not), (b) exposes your irrelevant questions for the silliness they are.
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In other words you're in denial of facts right in front of you. Thanks for playing.
 
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lurchadams said:
In other words you're in denial of facts right in front of you. Thanks for playing.
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iLOL You are again wrong as usual.
Go figure.
 
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Excon said:
Really?
What is the most confusing part for you? That this is about a lobbyist pleading guilty to wrong doing, or the fact that it has not a damn thing to do with any wrong doing on Trump's part?




Dodging what? Your irrelevant questions? iLOL
1. Irrelevant questions deserve no direct answer.
2. The answer you received in the form of a question is (a) an answer (regardless if you like it or not), (b) exposes your irrelevant questions for the silliness they are.
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The most confusing part is how you are avoiding Trump's misdeeds and the fact that his closest people are all crooks and liars.
 
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jet57 said:
The most confusing part is how you are avoiding Trump's misdeeds and the fact that his closest people are all crooks and liars.
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I see you are still confused by the lack of evidence for what you say. As well as confused by that made-up bs in your thoughts.
Figures.
 
Mycroft said:
The usual CNN kind of article...

1. Mention Trump.
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How could your write an article about his plea deal without mentioning Trump? "Some unnamed President's inauguration"? You'd have to go out of your way not to mention Trump and the result wouldn't even make sense.

Mycroft said:
2. Provide some information.
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Yes, like you know, relevant facts. Like the charges involved. That's what journalism is supposed to do.

Mycroft said:
3. Leave out other information.
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Like what? Anything you've mentioned seems pretty irrelevant. This is a cut and dried article about the charges filed and reasonable attempt to contextualize it with its relevance to rest of the special counsel's investigation.

Mycroft said:
4. All designed to leave the reader with an impression...a narrative...that doesn't bear any resemblance to reality.

For example...



What CNN doesn't tell you is that Patten worked for Kilimnik for almost 20 years. Heck, it's almost certain that the "members of the executive branch" that's mentioned are members of the Obama executive branch.
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Well, they never said or even implied that it was the Trump admin. You're the only one coming up with that interpretation. The relevant crime in that paragraph is the deception of not revealing he was a foreign agent.

How does his twenty year association with Kilimnik, a suspected Russian intelligence operative, do anything to help Trump? The connection to Trump here is still Manafort (you know, the convicted felon that Trump thinks is "good man") through Kilimnik. This only deepens Patten's association with Kilimnik and hence Manafort.

Honestly, the quote of Trump's lawyer, already provided by CNN in the article did a much better job than you of defending Trump. You've added absolutely nothing with your straw man arguments.

Mycroft said:
But hey...useful idiots have very little skill in critical thinking, so thinking about reality won't even enter their minds. CNN knows this. Their articles are directed toward useful idiots.
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If you'd demonstrated any critical thought, it might've made your claim more believable. You appear to have an irrational and irrelevant hatred of CNN.
 
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Captain Adverse said:
And as usual you are assuming "facts" not in evidence.

You combine misinformation, innuendo, and guilt by association to make assertions as if speaking facts.

Meanwhile, after reading my posts in this Forum on the subject, I find it strange that you "don't understand HOW I could still support him."
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Honestly, I don't know how any Libertarian can support Trump.
 
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