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U.S., Canada Pass Friday Deadline With No Nafta Deal

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-canada-rush-to-hash-out-nafta-compromise-1535724907

Trade negotiations between the U.S. and Canada broke off with no agreement before the Friday deadline set by the Trump administration.

The U.S. Trade Representative’s office cited “progress” in talks that were “constructive” to revise the North American Free Trade Agreement. It said talks would resume on Wednesday.

President Trump sent a formal notice to Congress stating that he still intends to sign a revised version of Nafta by late November. That statement said he was willing to proceed only with Mexico, but that he is also open to continuing negotiations with Canada.

Canada’s chief negotiator, Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland, scheduled a press conference at the Canadian Embassy in Washington for 4:30 p.m.

The result came after U.S. and Canadian officials had cast doubt about their ability to complete a revised deal.

Following a roughly two-hour Friday morning meeting with U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer, Ms. Freeland said the country was determined to “stand up” for its national interests. “We are looking for a good deal, not just any deal. We are not there yet.”

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau reiterated this sentiment at an event in suburban Toronto. “We have been very clear about where our red lines are. … This is something we take seriously as a renegotiation.”
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This was actually pretty predictable, but now Trump can blame the media for "leaking" his comments, which he totally intended to keep private--*wink*--for the lack of progress.
 
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Hatuey said:
An agreement with Mexico and a separate one with Canada?



Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.
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What agreement is more likely. We know that Trump loves to back out of agreements so until it is actually signed.. hell even then he has a long ass history of not living up to his contracts and agreements. He does not want fair or free trade.. the EU offered no tariffs on cars going both ways, which he refused because it was not enough.. why? He wants the EU to force Europeans to buy ****ty American cars.. the man is delusional.
 
PeteEU said:
What agreement is more likely. We know that Trump loves to back out of agreements so until it is actually signed.. hell even then he has a long ass history of not living up to his contracts and agreements. He does not want fair or free trade.. the EU offered no tariffs on cars going both ways, which he refused because it was not enough.. why? He wants the EU to force Europeans to buy ****ty American cars.. the man is delusional.
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I think more than anything, there are ties to Big Agri. Cars are certainly part of it, but I think Trump would like EU to buy our ****ty, mass produced meat.
 
Ikari said:
I think more than anything, there are ties to Big Agri. Cars are certainly part of it, but I think Trump would like EU to buy our ****ty, mass produced meat.
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yes and no.

Trump hates Germany, so he wants to damage German exports as much as possible. I doubt that any amount of "free trade" is enough for Trump. Even if the EU caved fully, then it would not be enough, because then he would not have any reason to hate the EU and Germany anymore. This has clearly been shown by him saying no to no tariffs on cars.

As for Canada.. well here he has focused on dairy for some reason, and no way will Canada allow subsidised US dairy into Canada.
 
PeteEU said:
What agreement is more likely. We know that Trump loves to back out of agreements so until it is actually signed.. hell even then he has a long ass history of not living up to his contracts and agreements. He does not want fair or free trade.. the EU offered no tariffs on cars going both ways, which he refused because it was not enough.. why? He wants the EU to force Europeans to buy ****ty American cars.. the man is delusional.
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I'm still waiting on the written document from the NK and Russian deals, I'm sure they'll be forthcoming so we can see the meat of the issue.

Even if it kimchi and bear meat.

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.
 
trixare4kids said:
No, they haven't broken down.

Jesus, where do you people get your news?
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I linked it. They can and likely will resume (because NAFTA isn't going anywhere) but they failed to reach an agreement by the deadline we set. What would you call it?
 
All the political parties of Canada are united against Trump. There is no upside for any Canadian parties to agree with the president of the United States of America
 
LincolnRossiter said:
I linked it. They can and likely will resume (because NAFTA isn't going anywhere) but they failed to reach an agreement by the deadline we set. What would you call it?
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Here's what I would call it.
You're back-pedaling from your misleading thread title.

You conveniently left the subtitle out as well.."The countries agree to continue talks next week rather than break off negotiations, aiming to keep Canada in the three-way trade pact."

eta: Your thread title should match the title of your source....

Have a splendid weekend.
:2wave:
 
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trixare4kids said:
Here's what I would call it.
You're back-pedaling from your misleading thread title.

eta: Your thread title should match the title of your source....

Have a splendid weekend.
:2wave:
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An impasse was reached, the deadline came and went, and once again you've come to a debate site looking for a bicker.
 
trixare4kids said:
Here's what I would call it.
You're back-pedaling from your misleading thread title.

You conveniently left the subtitle out as well.."The countries agree to continue talks next week rather than break off negotiations, aiming to keep Canada in the three-way trade pact."

eta: Your thread title should match the title of your source....

Have a splendid weekend.
:2wave:
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That was the original title. Word for word. It's too late for me to edit. If you want to ask a moderator to do so, I won't object.
 
LincolnRossiter said:
That was the original title. Word for word. It's too late for me to edit. If you want to ask a moderator to do so, I won't object.
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MSM rules state clearly- you must post the headline, no editing is permitted. If you post your own title in MSM expect an infraction, and the OP may be moved and or the tile changed
 
JANFU said:
MSM rules state clearly- you must post the headline, no editing is permitted. If you post your own title in MSM expect an infraction, and the OP may be moved and or the tile changed
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I posted the title. WSJ edited it on their page after I was no longer able to edit it here. I'm assuming the moderators have better understanding than you do.

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https://twitter.com/DRUDGE_REPORT/status/1035613243274743808

https://www.msn.com/en-in/money/news/us-canada-talks-break-up-with-no-agreement-report/vi-BBMIDJn
 

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Phys251 said:
If you can't get along with Canada, then your priorities need serious reevaluation. SAD!
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Our new norm and our ability to acclimate to it really are amazing. Canada, UK, Germany, France, Mexico, Australia--F those guys.

But we need to get along with Russia.
 
LincolnRossiter said:
I posted the title. WSJ edited it on their page after I was no longer able to edit it here. I'm assuming the moderators have better understanding than you do.

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https://twitter.com/DRUDGE_REPORT/status/1035613243274743808

https://www.msn.com/en-in/money/news/us-canada-talks-break-up-with-no-agreement-report/vi-BBMIDJn
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1st I was unaware the Title changed after posting.
2nd I was trying to be helpful and save you some heartache.
3rd - I was wrong on both counts
4th- Will not happen again
 
JANFU said:
1st I was unaware the Title changed after posting.
2nd I was trying to be helpful and save you some heartache.
3rd - I was wrong on both counts
4th- Will not happen again
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Sorry. I'd already explained it to another poster and assumed you were being facetious. I can get pissy with people when I think they're being obtuse, but I'll try to curb it. Sincerely.
 
LincolnRossiter said:
Sorry. I'd already explained it to another poster and assumed you were being facetious. I can get pissy with people when I think they're being obtuse, but I'll try to curb it. Sincerely.
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Accepted.
You can hit the report function, stating the OP Title has changed from te original and a Mod will look after it. When they do amend the title you receive an auto PM noting the change in title.

At times new members are not aware that they cannot change the title to something they like, do so and end up with warnings to an Infraction.
MSM is a hotpot for people making mistakes between MSM / Non MSM and watched by Mods- a tip I received from a Mod was use Wiki to find the origins of a news site.
 
JANFU said:
Accepted.
You can hit the report function, stating the OP Title has changed from te original and a Mod will look after it. When they do amend the title you receive an auto PM noting the change in title.

At times new members are not aware that they cannot change the title to something they like, do so and end up with warnings to an Infraction.
MSM is a hotpot for people making mistakes between MSM / Non MSM and watched by Mods- a tip I received from a Mod was use Wiki to find the origins of a news site.
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:cheers: Appreciate it. I actually did get a private message/warning from an admin over that once before (didn't have a link) and the post was moved. So I stick to the rules in the breaking news section. Thanks for looking out. I will request that the mods fix it.
 
LincolnRossiter said:
:cheers: Appreciate it. I actually did get a private message/warning from an admin over that once before (didn't have a link) and the post was moved. So I stick to the rules in the breaking news section. Thanks for looking out. I will request that the mods fix it.
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Glad to help.
And yes I have had a number of infractions in MSM. I am a slow learner and a tad kwazy
 
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