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North Carolina's gerrymandered map is unconstitutional, judges rule, and may have to be redrawn

EMNofSeattle said:
It’s a judicial coup with the express intent of forcing a democratic congress, they’ll demand democratic gerrymandering for the new map. Since Kavanaugh will be confirmed state officials should simply reject the court’s authority, the constitution is clear, the sole authority is the state legislature and they can draw maps however they want for any reason
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Kavanaugh hasn't been seated, yet.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
It’s a judicial coup with the express intent of forcing a democratic congress, they’ll demand democratic gerrymandering for the new map. Since Kavanaugh will be confirmed state officials should simply reject the court’s authority, the constitution is clear, the sole authority is the state legislature and they can draw maps however they want for any reason
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Wow.

That's like saying "OWLS CAUSE DIABETES! THE MOON IS ALIVE!!!"
 
Howard the Duck said:
Sure it is. And on May 20, 1861 they even tried to secede.
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The state of MARYLAND is south of the Mason-Dixon Line but did not sign on with the Confederacy, thus MARYLAND is "not a Deep South state".
Both of the Carolinas are deep South.
 
The Mark said:
Seriously?

If the districts are unfair to the voters, and were made that way intentionally by those in power, I cannot fathom why it would be OK to leave the rules unfair just because it ISN'T THE SCHEDULED TIME TO CHANGE THEM!

What the hell?!?


If I had my way they'd fix them NOW, and make those who intentionally made them unfair pay the costs of doing so.
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What costs would you make them pay?

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trouble13 said:
What costs would you make them pay?

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Whatever costs needed to redraw districts and even re-do elections - costs directly caused by their abuse of the power they were entrusted with.
 
trouble13 said:
Lol dems have been doing it for years too. As another posted already pointed out, take a look at MDs districts.

Also I am completely entitled to offer a but to the Democrats partisan solution that does not fix gerrymandering.

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I won't accept this kind of **** from anyone, I don't care what party they call themselves.
 
Howard the Duck said:
Kavanaugh hasn't been seated, yet.
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Yes, but NC officials should drag their feet on complying until after the election since an appeal is likely to be favorable. The appeals court clearly waited until the SCOTUS couldn’t overrule them and too close to the election for a detailed process, they could’ve ruled this months ago
 
The Mark said:
Whatever costs needed to redraw districts and even re-do elections - costs directly caused by their abuse of the power they were entrusted with.
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OK I wasn't sure if you meant financial cost or it was meant in a more consequently sense. I'm glad your talking money. I had a problem with it being meant the other way

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The Mark said:
I won't accept this kind of **** from anyone, I don't care what party they call themselves.
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That's fair. As i said I don't object to the complaint. My objection is their solution.

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EMNofSeattle said:
Yes, but NC officials should drag their feet on complying until after the election since an appeal is likely to be favorable. The appeals court clearly waited until the SCOTUS couldn’t overrule them and too close to the election for a detailed process, they could’ve ruled this months ago
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The court could just draw their own map, or use an old one. There are lots of less than perfect alternatives that are better than what is scheduled to happen that they could choose.

In Pennsylvania? They drew their own map, and it is the map that will be used in November.
 
Howard the Duck said:
The court would just draw their own map, or use an old one. There are lots of less than perfect alternatives that are better than what I scheduled to happen that they could choose.
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How would you like to be campaigning for a year, then with 100 days to go your area gets changed?

Does that sound right to you?
 
The entire idea of gerrymandering needs to be erased a fair election should be held not Politicians bickering over whom can screw over the voters of the other American party.
 
TeardropPA said:
The entire idea of gerrymandering needs to be erased a fair election should be held not Politicians bickering over whom can screw over the voters of the other American party.
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Congratulations on your state's brand new fair congressional map. It's probably worth 5 seats to the Democrats. 4 more in North Carolina? We're half way to flipping the house.
 
Howard the Duck said:
As a Democrat running in a God-forsaken southern state I would love it. It sounds totally right to me.
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Meanwhile McCain last worked last December and they wont get around to electing a new Senator till sometime in 2020, and I keep getting told that is JUST FINE AND DANDY.

I got whiplash I tell ya from this FAST/SLOW AS MUD thing we do.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Meanwhile McCain last worked last December and they wont get around to electing a new Senator till sometime in 2020, and I keep getting told that is JUST FINE AND DANDY.

I got whiplash I tell ya between the FAST/SLOW AS MUD thing we do.
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It is impossible to gerrymander a Senate seat. Don't get whiplash. Compare apples to apples.
 
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