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Paul Manofort found guilty of 8 counts of Fraud

He faces more charges, boy going away for a Long Time, his boss will get his day soon enough.
 
Casper said:
He faces more charges, boy going away for a Long Time, his boss will get his day soon enough.
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And the DC judge won't coddle and protect the defense like this last judge did either.
 
year2late said:
The only thing I can think of now is how badly I feel for Barron. I hope Melania has her inner Mama Bear intact.
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Have you ever thought Barron might be better off without Trump as a role model?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Cohen's deal reportedly has nothing in it about getting Trump....that scores as a loss for Mueller.
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I guess you didn't read the plea statement, in which he admits to violating campaign finance laws by paying hush money in coordination with "a candidate for federal office". You think he violated the law to help Hillary? LOL.
 
nota bene said:
I've spun nothing. Wasn't Manafort being tried for illegal activities of over a decade ago? Or was he being tried for his activities as Trump's campaign chair?
Hmmm?
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You've gone past spinning now. Now you aren't even able to get basic facts straight. Are you lying or just clueless about what you're defending?
Not a single one is a decade old. Some as recent as 2017.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...ort-trial-guilty-verdict-mueller-trump-russia

False tax returns each tax year from 2010 to 2014.
Failure to report foreign bank/assets: He faced one count for each year from 2011 to 2014.
Bank fraud/conspiracy between 2015 and January 2017.

Some people have no credibility on this forum for their consistent, repeated denial of reality. Are you too headed down that road?

Judge Ellis derided prosecutors, inappropriately, for trying Manafort specifically because he believed they were doing so in order to get information on the Russian conspiracy portion of the investigation. At the very least related to Manafort's participation in the Trump Tower meeting, where Don Jr. knowingly solicited the Russian government for a thing of value to help in the campaign. And what else? I suppose Manafort has a second trial coming up.

I hope you change your ways, I really do.
 
Since Fox News did not run it as breaking news, so, it has become the end of the Trump Administration.
 
Atheist 2020 said:
Since Fox News did not run it as breaking news, so, it has become the end of the Trump Administration.
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Our local FOX6 broke in to Judge Judy with "Breaking News" about Manafort's conviction.

But that's a local station.
 
Taylor said:
Not really. Had there been to a special counsel to scrutinize every member of the Obama team, I'm guessing the same thing would have happened.
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Here we go again!

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EnigmaO01 said:
So your argument is when he comes across criminal activity he's supposed to look the other way? Do you know any law enforcement agency that does that? Yeah I didn't think so.

BTW the collusion is in the next trial in case you didn't know that.
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If police come to your home with a warrant looking for joe blow, anything else they may find, wont hold up.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
If police come to your home with a warrant looking for joe blow, anything else they may find, wont hold up.
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Even my dog knows that's not even remotely the same.

Better luck next time.
 
ashurbanipal said:
Hmmmm...I'm not sure why you're asking that, since nothing about what I said, or the post to which I replied, implies that there is a better option.

But as it happens, I do think there's a better option, albeit one that for now remains out of our grasp. Plato, I think, got it right with the notion of the philosopher-king--though I would not put philosophers as they exist today in charge, and I certainly don't think Plato got the details right at all. Essentially, though, if there were a reliable way to produce maximally wise and beneficent individuals who are completely incorruptible, having them in charge in a kind of supreme council or something would be ideal.

The main problem I see with our current government is that our constitution was written by men (incidentally, they were all men) who had an incorrect view of human beings, and who were living in conditions that no longer obtain. Human beings are not necessarily rational actors in a system with equal access to the information they need. Nor is it possible for a person to go into the wilderness and emerge with a fortune in pelts, gold, or other such resources, as it was when the constitution was written. And we've never adjusted sufficiently to contemporary conditions, or taken full account of what human beings are, with increasingly deleterious consequences.
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One that doesn't suck up to dictators and doesn't alienate our best and most trusted allies. EDIT...disregard...hit the wrong poster's reply button.
 
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Slingshot Bob said:
If police come to your home with a warrant looking for joe blow, anything else they may find, wont hold up.
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Bill Clinton was being investigated for a real estate deal in Arkansas... years later they found a cum stain on a blue dress.
 
Justice is always a good thing, would be interesting to see how many Dems we can throw in prison with a far reaching probe into their finances and other aspects.
 
digsbe said:
Justice is always a good thing, would be interesting to see how many Dems we can throw in prison with a far reaching probe into their finances and other aspects.
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Go for it. Many dems have gone to jail from such. I'm sure you could "whataboutism" the hell out of this thread with a quick search.
 
Howard the Duck said:
If Trump didn't fire Comey, and if he somehow managed to keep his pants on, he would be happily taking health insurance from millions of Americans.

But he didn't and for that we can all be grateful.
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I said from the beginning that Trump's impetuous decision to fire Comey, will go down in the annals of Presidential political blunders. So it seems!
 
MrShangles said:
What part of these charges has anything to do with collusion or Trump?
Y’all don’t really think getting someone on tax fraud has anything to do with Trump.
But it looks like Mueller is trying to get a job for IRS, he’s good at prosecuting tax fraud, and we thought he was investigating Russian collusion!



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I guess you forgot that Watergate begin with a second-rate burglary.I am looking for many more shoes to drop from this centipede that attempting to take over our Democracy.:2wave:
 
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