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Trump Revokes Security Clearance of John Brennan, Former C.I.A. Director

Nap said:
I don't particularly disagree with you, however I fail to see why it is relevant in this matter. Why should the former director still have clearance?
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Answer: Deep State.
 
Objective Voice said:
Once again, watch the press briefing, listen to the names Sarah Sanders calls out, be mindful of why Brenner and others security clearances have been (or will be) revoked and then come back and tell me this isn't Trump's attempt to silence his Obama-era Administration critics.

Of course, as you said this won't muzzle them in the slightest, but you can't deny this is an attempt to reduce their access to information and, thus, silence them (at least a little) at best, make their lives more difficult at worse.
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He has the authority to limit their access and it will not silence them in the least. This is not a First Amendment issue. Its an access issue. Brennan no longer has a security clearance but that isn't really meaningful if you are no longer in government. It is retaliation for Brennans asshattery, but it is largely unimportant, even ot Brennan.
 
Fletch said:
He has the authority to limit their access and it will not silence them in the least. This is not a First Amendment issue. Its an access issue. Brennan no longer has a security clearance but that isn't really meaningful if you are no longer in government. It is retaliation for Brennans asshattery, but it is largely unimportant, even ot Brennan.
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He's punishing dissent, making it untenable to disagree with the King.

All of which makes Comey's story about Trump demanding a loyalty pledge ring true.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I am curious....are you with me that Washington is now full of second and third rate people, that they generally have neither the brain power nor the morality to get the job done, that we dont begin to mend America till we get better people?
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I am not sure I understand your posts but I will be glad to share with you what I actually think.

Washington is full of lifer bureaucrats and lobbyists that push for particular agendas that often don't match the majority of We the People.

Trump has disrupted them and Kudos to him for that,
 
vesper said:
I am not sure I understand your posts but I will be glad to share with you what I actually think.

Washington is full of lifer bureaucrats and lobbyists that push for particular agendas that often don't match the majority of We the People.

Trump has disrupted them and Kudos to him for that,
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It trashes the institutional memory of our intelligence operations. Our current people cannot consult up to speed predecessors for advice. It's just another example of Trump Making America Putin's Toy Again.
 
Floridafan said:
Every single road in this investigation seems to point to Trump, his associates, and the Russians.
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Was that map created for you by MSNBC or CNN Huffo Puffo, NYT and WaPO?
:lol

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Howard the Duck said:
It trashes the institutional memory of our intelligence operations. Our current people cannot consult up to speed predecessors for advice. It's just another example of Trump Making America Putin's Toy Again.
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Brennan had already trashed that with leaks he was involved in. A former CIA chief does not need a lifetime security clearance. If a former chiefs services or consultations are needed, there is a such thing as issuing temporary security clearances on an as needed basis.
 
nota bene said:
Rand Paul in July:

He warned of the exploits of John Brennan.

"John Brennan leaked information that almost cost the life of a double agent," Paul said. "This is four years ago now. He should’ve been fired for that, but he wasn’t fired by President Obama because I think he was partisan, but now he’s a talking head on the outside, saying that, basically, President Trump should be executed."

"That’s what we do for treason, and so, yes, I’m very concerned about him having privileges because of his past history, but I would make it more universal," he said. "I don’t think that ex-CIA agents of any stripe, who are now talking heads, should continue to get classified information. I think it’s wrong." https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...dvertently_reveal_classified_information.html
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That's because you are as dangerously ignorant as Trump . Maintaining clearances for retired security officials is done to allow then to be consulted by the newbies. It is done to help keep us safe and it will not shut Brennan up either.
 
Nap said:
I don't particularly disagree with you, however I fail to see why it is relevant in this matter. Why should the former director still have clearance?
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They keep their clearances in order to be able to review classified cases, if asked, after their careers are done. Similar to a consultant.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Brennan had already trashed that with leaks he was involved in. A former CIA chief does not need a lifetime security clearance. If a former chiefs services or consultations are needed, there is a such thing as issuing temporary security clearances on an as needed basis.
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That's total BS. Trump is "punishing" Brennan for exercising his 1st amendment rights. It is un-Constitutional , dangerous and wrong. And you are complicit and un-American.
 
Howard the Duck said:
It trashes the institutional memory of our intelligence operations. Our current people cannot consult up to speed predecessors for advice. It's just another example of Trump Making America Putin's Toy Again.
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First, revoking the clearances was childish and vindictive. But Trump is childish and vindictive. And yes, the reason top leadership keeps their clearances is for the institutional memory, but that mostly comes up in the the immediate weeks and months after an administration transition. I highly doubt folks like Brennan are being consulted anymore at this point. So it isn’t THAT big of a deal. Besides, the real institutional memory is in the career civil servants who work there.
 
Linc said:
More Russian Cyber Attacks against the Democratic Candidate for Russia-Supporting GOP Rep. Dana Rohrabacher. Same as with #45 and HRC; as with Sen. Nelson in Florida; as with Sen. McCaskill in Missouri;

as with the GOP Candidate for Governor in Georgia; and just now with Ohio; We see what the GOPutins are doing; the party of traitors to the USA.
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What is the price of tea in China today?
 
roguenuke said:
It doesn't matter. Security clearances all work the same.

And I happen to be a Chief, thank you very much. ;)
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They certainly do not. Not in the military and not in the rest of the government.

You are a CIA Chief? God help us.
 
Howard the Duck said:
"If there actually were a deep state, " the ghost of JFk noted. "Then Trump would be dead already. The Donald, instead, is building a derp state."
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I have made no determination on who killed Kennedy but I am sure that Deep State exists, that they have not yet assassinated Trump does not change this.
 
roguenuke said:
No, I'm not. Clearances work the same regardless of whether military or civilian. That is how they work. My prints were taken three times. Once at MEPS (when they began processing my security clearance, and for initial entry) and then two other times in relation to my security clearance expiring and trying to get it reinstated (the security clearance manager at the NOSC when I first tried getting my clearance back was a lazy jackass who was about to transfer/retire and didn't want to do the job properly, they found out he never sent my paperwork, including the fingerprints, in until after he was out, so they had to be taken again to submit with my SF86).
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Show me your clearance for SCI RS171-9. Most generals don't rate. The Secretary of Defense doesn't rate.

You need to stop, now, before you sink any further.
 
Howard the Duck said:
But it could.
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But see Mueller was supposed to work faster, that was the fix. Now I am not sure that they could take Trump out, there are enough of us onto them that the country will blow up if Trump is killed, no matter who does it, and they know it.
 
OldFatGuy said:
They certainly do not. Not in the military and not in the rest of the government.

You are a CIA Chief? God help us.
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Will your lying lawyer Rogue Rudy ‘arrest’ Mr. Mueller? How about Rudy obstructing Justice offering up Pardons for known Traitors? At the Very Least, Rogue Rudy will lose his Law License.

If my Lifer Air Force Father was still around, He would have some Very Serious Words with you and all other Veterans who aid, abet, and defend this Criminally Insane Racist who is Truly a Traitorous Coward.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
They keep their clearances in order to be able to review classified cases, if asked, after their careers are done. Similar to a consultant.
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Underground leaders, not accountable to anyone.....doing what ever their agenda's prompt them to do.
 
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