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trixare4kids said:
My comment: Particularly informative are the president's comments on Russia. As usual, he does not hold back.

President Trump pretty much debunks the false narrative, the whirling hysteria that Trump is Putin's boot licker; a traitor.
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Mainly he is incompetent. That and he has a specific, self serving blind spot with regards to Russian meddling in the US elections. He doesn't seem to understand that this hurts US interests and actually undercuts perceptions of his legitimacy. That's one of the big reasons he's so incompetent.

~"I have been far tougher on Russia than any President in many many years. Maybe ever."
Maybe ever? Can you even wonder about that for an instant with any seriousness? This guy is covering his listeners with bullcrap as per usual.

~"Even the big fight I have with Germany over the fact that they're taking natural gas, they’re taking energy from Russia."
Big fight? What actions did this "fight" consist of? This is Trump playing up his words, not actions. All he is doing is arguing with one of our closest allies, not fighting Russia. He's not going to stop Europe from getting cheap gas from Russia - the economic incentive is just too strong.

~"And then on top of that, Germany pays a fraction of what they should be paying for defense. We're supposed to be defend them."
I don't know about you, but I still prefer a Germany without a strong military. Could Europe as a whole pay more for their own defense? Certainly, but conservatives probably won't like the corresponding loss of American influence in world affairs. Be careful what you wish for.

~"But look at the sanctions I have put on."
Does he mean the legislation passed with a veto-proof majority that he complained about signing? The one that Congress took great pains to write specifically so that Trump couldn't do anything to limit them and then drug their feet on actually implementing? (afaict, they never implemented those sanctions)

He apparently did implement some of his own very specific, limited sanctions in response to chemical attacks. It is better than nothing, but still watered down in comparison to the legislation passed by congress. He is dragging his feet here and claiming the opposite when it suits him.

~"Look at the diplomats I threw out."
This is the one statement that actually references anything substantial. I support the move, but it doesn't move the needle very much, IMO. He still remains delinquent when it comes to Russian election interference.
 
prometeus said:
Facts bother you eh?
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Nope.
See post Number one, and then see posts 24 and 25 that prove Trump is telling the truth about how tough he has been with Russia.
But you go ahead, and keep doubling down on your vapid silly Trump bows down to Putin rhetoric.

Get out of the group think echo chamber, my friend. :2wave:
 
exoplanet said:
Mainly he is incompetent. That and he has a specific, self serving blind spot with regards to Russian meddling in the US elections. He doesn't seem to understand that this hurts US interests and actually undercuts perceptions of his legitimacy. That's one of the big reasons he's so incompetent.

~"I have been far tougher on Russia than any President in many many years. Maybe ever."
Maybe ever? Can you even wonder about that for an instant with any seriousness? This guy is covering his listeners with bullcrap as per usual.

~"Even the big fight I have with Germany over the fact that they're taking natural gas, they’re taking energy from Russia."
Big fight? What actions did this "fight" consist of? This is Trump playing up his words, not actions. All he is doing is arguing with one of our closest allies, not fighting Russia. He's not going to stop Europe from getting cheap gas from Russia - the economic incentive is just too strong.

~"And then on top of that, Germany pays a fraction of what they should be paying for defense. We're supposed to be defend them."
I don't know about you, but I still prefer a Germany without a strong military. Could Europe as a whole pay more for their own defense? Certainly, but conservatives probably won't like the corresponding loss of American influence in world affairs. Be careful what you wish for.

~"But look at the sanctions I have put on."
Does he mean the legislation passed with a veto-proof majority that he complained about signing? The one that Congress took great pains to write specifically so that Trump couldn't do anything to limit them and then drug their feet on actually implementing? (afaict, they never implemented those sanctions)

He apparently did implement some of his own very specific, limited sanctions in response to chemical attacks. It is better than nothing, but still watered down in comparison to the legislation passed by congress. He is dragging his feet here and claiming the opposite when it suits him.
~"Look at the diplomats I threw out."
This is the one statement that actually references anything substantial. I support the move, but it doesn't move the needle very much, IMO. He still remains delinquent when it comes to Russian election interference.
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See posts 24 and 25.
After reviewing those facts, come back to me and tell me again how incompetent Donald Trump's foreign policy with Russia is.
I'll be here waiting. :coffeepap
 
Born Free said:
Since the media have had almost endless coverage of supposed Russian collusion and Russian meddling in the 2016 election, shouldn't we get wall-to-wall coverage that the Obama chief cyber-official was ordered to stop investigating Russia's attack on the election months before the election?

The Obama White House's chief cyber official testified Wednesday that proposals he was developing to counter Russia's attack on the U.S. presidential election were put on a "back burner" after he was ordered to stand down his efforts in the summer of 2016.

We have been told how tough Obama was on Russia (even though the media know he told Russia he would be flexible) and the FBI, CIA, and Justice Department were so concerned about Russian collusion in 2016 that they had to get court orders to spy on people around Trump. But now we know that the cyber-security investigation was ordered to be stopped months before that. Does that make sense?

https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...ssia_cyberattack_standdown.html#ixzz5LudFUACw

https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-cy...ssian-cyberattacks-summer-2016-204935758.html

https://counterjihadreport.com/2018/06/25/why-obama-wanted-the-russians-to-hack-the-election/
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There's an article in the WA. Post on this very subject. I don't subscribe to the Post but I will see if I can find it again, and post it here.
Thanks for your input.
Btw, the Obama admin. KNEW that the Russians were meddling since 2014, and did nothing about it then either. I guess they figured Hillary would win in '16, and so what... :roll:
 
trixare4kids said:
See posts 24 and 25.
After reviewing those facts, come back to me and tell me again how incompetent Donald Trump's foreign policy with Russia is.
I'll be here waiting. :coffeepap
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Your posts added nothing significant. Feel free to, you know, try to debate or atempt something even close.
 
Born Free said:
Since the media have had almost endless coverage of supposed Russian collusion and Russian meddling in the 2016 election, shouldn't we get wall-to-wall coverage that the Obama chief cyber-official was ordered to stop investigating Russia's attack on the election months before the election?

The Obama White House's chief cyber official testified Wednesday that proposals he was developing to counter Russia's attack on the U.S. presidential election were put on a "back burner" after he was ordered to stand down his efforts in the summer of 2016.

We have been told how tough Obama was on Russia (even though the media know he told Russia he would be flexible) and the FBI, CIA, and Justice Department were so concerned about Russian collusion in 2016 that they had to get court orders to spy on people around Trump. But now we know that the cyber-security investigation was ordered to be stopped months before that. Does that make sense?

https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...ssia_cyberattack_standdown.html#ixzz5LudFUACw

https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-cy...ssian-cyberattacks-summer-2016-204935758.html

https://counterjihadreport.com/2018/06/25/why-obama-wanted-the-russians-to-hack-the-election/
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What about What about what about what about......Typical Right Wing defense of that idiot trump
 
Born Free said:
Since the media have had almost endless coverage of supposed Russian collusion and Russian meddling in the 2016 election, shouldn't we get wall-to-wall coverage that the Obama chief cyber-official was ordered to stop investigating Russia's attack on the election months before the election?

The Obama White House's chief cyber official testified Wednesday that proposals he was developing to counter Russia's attack on the U.S. presidential election were put on a "back burner" after he was ordered to stand down his efforts in the summer of 2016.

We have been told how tough Obama was on Russia (even though the media know he told Russia he would be flexible) and the FBI, CIA, and Justice Department were so concerned about Russian collusion in 2016 that they had to get court orders to spy on people around Trump. But now we know that the cyber-security investigation was ordered to be stopped months before that. Does that make sense?

https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...ssia_cyberattack_standdown.html#ixzz5LudFUACw

https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-cy...ssian-cyberattacks-summer-2016-204935758.html

https://counterjihadreport.com/2018/06/25/why-obama-wanted-the-russians-to-hack-the-election/
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How does ANY of your deflection have anything to do with Trump's ACTIVE inaction of Russian sanctions? Let me guess you think "but but but but but Obama or Hillary" somehow is a valid defense for Trump's inactions?
 
Casper said:
You do know that trump lies, a lot of the time. One instants here would be sanctions, he has fought against Congress applying more on Russia and when they passed them anyway he has refused to apply them. One if these days you just might get the fact that Trump lies through his teeth and that you fall for them on a regular basis or maybe you will always live in denial, life is full of choices.
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And yet> his dissenters think that liar is speaking the truth when he utters words or ideas that can be used against him that fits their negative thoughts concerning what they think about him.

Words are just words. They are an important communication tool. But... It can be difficult to accurately determine a spoken lie from a spoken truth via hearing alone.

A persons actions can be a used as an additional follow up tool to help the listener make a more accurate determination instead of simply using words alone. (imho)

Roseann:)
 
Praxas said:
How does ANY of your deflection have anything to do with Trump's ACTIVE inaction of Russian sanctions? Let me guess you think "but but but but but Obama or Hillary" somehow is a valid defense for Trump's inactions?
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Post 25 refutes your nonsense.
Come back when you have something meaningful to add to the discussion.
 
Praxas said:
How does ANY of your deflection have anything to do with Trump's ACTIVE inaction of Russian sanctions? Let me guess you think "but but but but but Obama or Hillary" somehow is a valid defense for Trump's inactions?
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So the sanctions are now off with Russia?? Again a civics class would assist you in understanding the three EQUAL branches of govt.
 
trixare4kids said:
President Trump pretty much debunks the false narrative, the whirling hysteria that Trump is Putin's boot licker; a traitor.
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MMmm, that's an award winner right there.

I'm not sure which part I like more.

-"pretty much" Such a bold claim! Kind a sorta.
- "Trump ... debunks" - This would be in the Guinness book if true (it's not)
- "false narrative" - beg that question!
- "whirling hysteria" - if it's whirling hysteria, why would he have to debunk it? Opposition = hysteria, more demonetization of opposition

DOJ won't be asking anyone who is a target, what their take is on the matter. Kind of how things work, sorry.

Let's ask Trump if he's a bad guy...hey Trump, are you bad? No? There you have it folks!!!
 
CharisRose said:
And yet> his dissenters think that liar is speaking the truth when he utters words or ideas that can be used against him that fits their negative thoughts concerning what they think about him.

Words are just words. They are an important communication tool. But... It can be difficult to accurately determine a spoken lie from a spoken truth via hearing alone.

A persons actions can be a used as an additional follow up tool to help the listener make a more accurate determination instead of simply using words alone. (imho)

Roseann:)
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Is there something in the liberal DNA that creates the belief that rhetoric trumps results?? For 8 years we listened to lie after lie none of which seemed to matter but now all of a sudden rhetoric is somehow important again. If you ever hired someone do you do hire them based upon what they tell you or what they have accomplished??
 
Mach said:
MMmm, that's an award winner right there.

I'm not sure which part I like more.

-"pretty much" Such a bold claim! Kind a sorta.
- "Trump ... debunks" - This would be in the Guinness book if true (it's not)
- "false narrative" - beg that question!
- "whirling hysteria" - if it's whirling hysteria, why would he have to debunk it? Opposition = hysteria, more demonetization of opposition

DOJ won't be asking anyone who is a target, what their take is on the matter. Kind of how things work, sorry.

Let's ask Trump if he's a bad guy...hey Trump, are you bad? No? There you have it folks!!!
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So same question do you always believe what someone else tells you or do you verify their accomplishments and resume?? Are you a good guy??
 
Praxas said:
How does ANY of your deflection have anything to do with Trump's ACTIVE inaction of Russian sanctions? Let me guess you think "but but but but but Obama or Hillary" somehow is a valid defense for Trump's inactions?
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Lets see, Trump did impose sanctions, Obama was told by Putin to not put the missile defence system in Poland and Check, Trump allowed the missile defence system to return in spite of Putin, Putin told Obama to not supply arms to Ukraine, however Trump gave Ukraine heavy weapons, Putin told Obama to not enforce his red line, Trump stepped in to fix Obama's red line twice, got rid of ISIS. Shall I go on.
 
Born Free said:
Lets see, Trump did impose sanctions, Obama was told by Putin to not put the missile defence system in Poland and Check, Trump allowed the missile defence system to return in spite of Putin, Putin told Obama to not supply arms to Ukraine, however Trump gave Ukraine heavy weapons, Putin told Obama to not enforce his red line, Trump stepped in to fix Obama's red line twice, got rid of ISIS. Shall I go on.
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Oh you mean the redi line where Trump alerted Russia BEFORE the strike, thus Russia was able to notify Syria. The airfield was down for a few days. Trump supporters are traitors to the United States.
 
Saladin4 said:
What about What about what about what about......Typical Right Wing defense of that idiot trump
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What I posted was not about Trump but what Obama did. You got the name wrong, Typical Idiot Obama who issued a "stand down" order to kill the investigation into Russia meddling in our election. What an Idiot.
 
Conservative said:
So the sanctions are now off with Russia?? Again a civics class would assist you in understanding the three EQUAL branches of govt.
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Where did I say all sanctions are off, having trouble reading? Maybe put your glasses on con. Perhaps you should brush up on your civics and realize we don't have a dictatorship like Trump and YOU fascists want.
 
Praxas said:
Oh you mean the redi line where Trump alerted Russia BEFORE the strike, thus Russia was able to notify Syria. The airfield was down for a few days. Trump supporters are traitors to the United States.
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Are you talking about Obama's red line that he let Syria walk all over him. If dumbass Obama enforced his red line, Trump would not have to fix that dumb bastards red line.
 
Praxas said:
Where did I say all sanctions are off, having trouble reading? Maybe put your glasses on con. Perhaps you should brush up on your civics and realize we don't have a dictatorship like Trump and YOU fascists want.
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then Trump cannot lift sanctions can he? all this hate is misguided as basic civics would teach you

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Born Free said:
Are you talking about Obama's red line that he let Syria walk all over him. If dumbass Obama enforced his red line, Trump would not have to fix that dumb bastards red line.
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The red line that congress wouldn't let him cross, they voted against action. And Trump's red line with NK was hilarious, there were SEVERAL that he made and NK crossed. What did Trump do about it? Agree to s a summit, told the world that Kim was a good guy and to trust him and rewarding him by kissing his ass. Trump supporting traitors are the lowest scumbags the US has.
 
Conservative said:
then Trump cannot lift sanctions can he? all this hate is misguided as basic civics would teach you

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Trump didn't ENACT the sanctions that congress levied, he just ignore them. I guess in your old age you have forgotten your civics classes. Brush up or get out con.
 
Mach said:
MMmm, that's an award winner right there.

I'm not sure which part I like more.

-"pretty much" Such a bold claim! Kind a sorta.
- "Trump ... debunks" - This would be in the Guinness book if true (it's not)
- "false narrative" - beg that question!
- "whirling hysteria" - if it's whirling hysteria, why would he have to debunk it? Opposition = hysteria, more demonetization of opposition

DOJ won't be asking anyone who is a target, what their take is on the matter. Kind of how things work, sorry.

Let's ask Trump if he's a bad guy...hey Trump, are you bad? No? There you have it folks!!!
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I take it you didn't bother to listen to the interview because if you had you'd have to admit that Trump was being truthful.
See posts 24 and 25 that prove Trump's foreign policy toward Russia is effectively strong and intact.

If you have anything intelligent to refute posts 24 and 25, bring it.
 
Conservative said:
then Trump cannot lift sanctions can he? all this hate is misguided as basic civics would teach you

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If he never enacts them, they aren't sanctioned. Now learn your basic civics courses or get out. Got it?
 
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