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Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model

Cohen's a thug, knee breaker … bad news dude. Which makes you wonder what kind of **** djt was into to need a guy like that for his attorney.
 
Ok where’s the release of the tape?


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Obama didn't tape him but his own attorney did.

You can't make this **** up.
 
StuPedaso said:
Cohen's a thug, knee breaker … bad news dude. Which makes you wonder what kind of **** djt was into to need a guy like that for his attorney.
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And then he hired the moron Rudy. Talk about s clown car.
 
Who cares about their conversations? FFS many think CLinton and his blow job made him a hero

Saladin4 said:
Good for trump......Then the White House is okay releasing the tape?.......Right?....Sure they are...LOL
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Ok, so where is the tape? Because at the end of the day this is another white lie. Published the tape and, then you can get the credit. But, right now this is a pathetic joke


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TheRepublican said:
Ok, so where is the tape? Because at the end of the day this is another white lie. Published the tape and, then you can get the credit. But, right now this is a pathetic joke


Can’t censor this Patriot
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This has Lanny Davis all over it....
 
TheRepublican said:
Ok, so where is the tape? Because at the end of the day this is another white lie. Published the tape and, then you can get the credit. But, right now this is a pathetic joke
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Rudy Giuliani, Trump's own attorney, verified that the tape is real, and is a discussion between Cohen and Trump about paying off Karen McDougal.

What is really sad is seeing people bend over backwards to exculpate a man who has had multiple affairs, paid off the women, tried to hide it, and almost certainly violated campaign election laws in the process.

I would normally say it's worse for his wife, but given his very public record of cheating on his wives, she should have no illusions about his behavior.
 
I thought the subpoena that prompted the search had nothing to do with anything to do with Trump and Attorney's personal communications. Seems like a recording of personal communications is outside the scope of the subpoena.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
I thought the subpoena that prompted the search had nothing to do with anything to do with Trump and Attorney's personal communications. Seems like a recording of personal communications is outside the scope of the subpoena.
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It wasn't a subpoena, it was a warrant to search. The warrant lists what is being sought. Just like if a warrant was for drugs and in that search an illegal gun was found, that gun is admissible.

Likewise, if in searching Cohen's papers documents (or tapes) are discovered about an illegal conspiracy (e.g. violated federal campaign finance laws), that evidence is in. Oh, there is no attorney client privileged when the attorney and client conspire to commit an illegal act.
 
j-mac said:
This has Lanny Davis all over it....
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Ok, if this was a court case and you use that name. I wouldn't give two cents to your claim because how does he know? Does he have a hard copy of the recording? The funny thing is that you people can come up with ridiculous things and no facts.


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MTAtech said:
It wasn't a subpoena, it was a warrant to search. The warrant lists what is being sought. Just like if a warrant was for drugs and in that search an illegal gun was found, that gun is admissible.

Likewise, if in searching Cohen's papers documents (or tapes) are discovered about an illegal conspiracy (e.g. violated federal campaign finance laws), that evidence is in. Oh, there is no attorney client privileged when the attorney and client conspire to commit an illegal act.
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An illegal act such as disclosing the content of the results of a search warrant?
 
Visbek said:
Rudy Giuliani, Trump's own attorney, verified that the tape is real, and is a discussion between Cohen and Trump about paying off Karen McDougal.

What is really sad is seeing people bend over backwards to exculpate a man who has had multiple affairs, paid off the women, tried to hide it, and almost certainly violated campaign election laws in the process.

I would normally say it's worse for his wife, but given his very public record of cheating on his wives, she should have no illusions about his behavior.
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The Trump cult spends a high percentage of their energy excusing what they would have condemned Obama and Clinton for, if Obama or Clinton did one tenth of what we are seeing with our own eyes Trump is doing. It really is a case study in cognitive dissonance.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
An illegal act such as disclosing the content of the results of a search warrant?
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We both know that the illegal act, in this matter, is federal election violations. Please try to pretend that you are having a serious discussion.
 
I just have a question;

Whatever happened to attorney/client privilege? I thought interactions between an attorney and client are supposed to be confidential? But if the government walks in and seizes the attorneys records the client loses that right? The government can even make those records public? Then it really isn't a right at all.

Would that also apply to doctor/patient privilege? If a doctors records are seized can they be used, and be made public?
 
Waddy said:
I just have a question;

Whatever happened to attorney/client privilege? I thought interactions between an attorney and client are supposed to be confidential? But if the government walks in and seizes the attorneys records the client loses that right? The government can even make those records public? Then it really isn't a right at all.

Would that also apply to doctor/patient privilege? If a doctors records are seized can they be used, and be made public?
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Attorney client privileged is not absolute. Clients conspiring to commit or hide a crime with the aid of their attorney is not privileged.

See: https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/the-crime-fraud-exception-the-attorney-client-privilege.html
 
TheRepublican said:
Ok, if this was a court case and you use that name. I wouldn't give two cents to your claim because how does he know? Does he have a hard copy of the recording? The funny thing is that you people can come up with ridiculous things and no facts.


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Cohen has hired Lanny Davis to represent him, and this claim that there is a tape is a tactic of his....That's all I am saying....
 
Waddy said:
Whatever happened to attorney/client privilege?
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It's doing just fine, thanks.

This is not the first time in history that an attorney was charged with a crime. What happens is that the evidence collected from the suspected attorney gets filtered before the prosecutors can even look at it.

In this case, the court appointed a special master to review the evidence first. Cohen's attorneys then got to take a pass at anything the special master did not find to be privileged. They hash out anything where there's a difference of opinion.

And in this case, almost nothing turned out to be privileged. The reality is that Cohen performed almost no legal work for Trump. He was a fixer, not an attorney.

I'm also pretty sure that arranging hush money payoffs is not privileged. There were no lawsuits pending, all they were doing was keeping her quiet.
 
Visbek said:
It's doing just fine, thanks.

This is not the first time in history that an attorney was charged with a crime. What happens is that the evidence collected from the suspected attorney gets filtered before the prosecutors can even look at it.

In this case, the court appointed a special master to review the evidence first. Cohen's attorneys then got to take a pass at anything the special master did not find to be privileged. They hash out anything where there's a difference of opinion.

And in this case, almost nothing turned out to be privileged. The reality is that Cohen performed almost no legal work for Trump. He was a fixer, not an attorney.

I'm also pretty sure that arranging hush money payoffs is not privileged. There were no lawsuits pending, all they were doing was keeping her quiet.
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I may have to break in and burn the records of my tax attorney...... :)
 
MTAtech said:
We both know that the illegal act, in this matter, is federal election violations. Please try to pretend that you are having a serious discussion.
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I'm sorry I'm not cooperating with your agenda. You've already decided which potentially illegal actions are worse than the other.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
I'm sorry I'm not cooperating with your agenda. You've already decided which potentially illegal actions are worse than the other.
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I have no idea what you are writing about.
 
Waddy said:
I just have a question;

Whatever happened to attorney/client privilege? I thought interactions between an attorney and client are supposed to be confidential? But if the government walks in and seizes the attorneys records the client loses that right? The government can even make those records public? Then it really isn't a right at all.

Would that also apply to doctor/patient privilege? If a doctors records are seized can they be used, and be made public?
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Attorney-client privilege can only be waived two ways: By conspiracy between the attorney and the client to commit a crime and by the client himself.
 
Napoleon said:
An in-kind contribution also counts and that we can already nail him on in the Stormy Daniels case.
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You go ahead and try that, and let me know how it works out.
 
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