Exclusive: Randi Zuckerberg responds to her brother's Holocaust comments

Rickeroo · Jul 20, 2018

Article:

https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/19/technology/randi-mark-zuckerberg-facebook-holocaust/index.html

Making holocaust denial a crime makes perfect sense. Neo-nazis ceased to exist in Germany when they did it. Here in the US, we should make slavery denial a crime, since the denial of slavery is the root of racism.

Seriously though, this is yet another completely ineffective (and harmful) sentiment put forth because of the rules of PC.

Simon W. Moon · Jul 20, 2018

Rickeroo said:
the denial of slavery is the root of racism.

It sounds like you're saying there's no racism where slavery is acknowledged.
That don't sound right.
I've heard racists call for the reinstatement of slavery.

Rickeroo said:
Seriously though, this is yet another completely ineffective (and harmful) sentiment put forth because of the rules of PC.

PC now means protecting the right of holocaust deniers to be wrong in public?
It seems PC may have transmogrified substantially since the term was coined.

HowardBThiname · Jul 20, 2018

Rickeroo said:
Article:

https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/19/technology/randi-mark-zuckerberg-facebook-holocaust/index.html

Making holocaust denial a crime makes perfect sense. Neo-nazis ceased to exist in Germany when they did it. Here in the US, we should make slavery denial a crime, since the denial of slavery is the root of racism.

Seriously though, this is yet another completely ineffective (and harmful) sentiment put forth because of the rules of PC.

I'm not in favor of making denial a crime, but I am supportive of increasing education in our public schools so children don't get older and fall prey to the antisemitism that exists. That antisemitism today often masks itself as anti-Israel sentiment. But, delve a little deeper and truth usually comes out.

There's something odd and nefarious going on -- and it's been a long time in the making. Centuries, actually. It started first in extremist religious thought, but since WWII, it's gradually spread to a faction of Leftists, who have been persuaded that Israel is an awful occupier, and from there, they've decided they don't like Jews, which naturally results in denial of the atrocities that Jews have suffered.

But in Germany, while the outward expression of denial isn't heard, it didn't cease, it simply went underground where it's been festering and now showing up as accusations against the state of Israel. Germany threw itself on its proverbial sword and making denial a crime is just one expression of that.

I believe in letting people speak freely and then correcting them when they get something wrong.

Rickeroo · Jul 20, 2018

Simon W. Moon said:
It sounds like you're saying there's no racism where slavery is acknowledged.
That don't sound right.
I've heard racists call for the reinstatement of slavery.

PC now means protecting the right of holocaust deniers to be wrong in public?
It seems PC may have transmogrified substantially since the term was coined.

What I'm saying is that the denial of slavery, if it exists, has nothing to do with the social aura around racism. In the same vein, Holocaust denial, at face value, has nothing to do with anti-semitism.

However, I will submit that people interpret words differently. It is possible that most accept the term "Holocaust denier" as a stand-in for Nazi or anti-semite. Personally it grates on me, since following that logic, we could call racists "slavery deniers", which of course makes no sense. It may be the difference between American and European ways of thinking how words actually work.

Rickeroo · Jul 20, 2018

HowardBThiname said:
I'm not in favor of making denial a crime, but I am supportive of increasing education in our public schools so children don't get older and fall prey to the antisemitism that exists. That antisemitism today often masks itself as anti-Israel sentiment. But, delve a little deeper and truth usually comes out.

There's something odd and nefarious going on -- and it's been a long time in the making. Centuries, actually. It started first in extremist religious thought, but since WWII, it's gradually spread to a faction of Leftists, who have been persuaded that Israel is an awful occupier, and from there, they've decided they don't like Jews, which naturally results in denial of the atrocities that Jews have suffered.

But in Germany, while the outward expression of denial isn't heard, it didn't cease, it simply went underground where it's been festering and now showing up as accusations against the state of Israel. Germany threw itself on its proverbial sword and making denial a crime is just one expression of that.

I believe in letting people speak freely and then correcting them when they get something wrong.

Well put. I always wondered why Jews historically are persecuted. I've been forming an opinion, and I think it has to do with the lack of self esteem on the part of the anti-semitic, blaming Jews for their own problems, feeling helpless or incapable to solve those problems themselves.