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Trump's military parade expected to cost nearly as much as 'tremendously expensive' canceled war gam

cuban smokes said:
it's not about that; it's about Trump's ginormous ego ...................
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Go after Trump if you want but going after the parade is a disservice to our uniformed men and women.
 
dobieg said:
Why is it a problem to throw a parade to honor our men and women who serve?
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If you think that the parade is being organized to "honor our men and women who serve" you should have your head candled.

If you don't believe me, just ask any serving (or former) member if they would rather have some increase in benefits or spend a couple of months practicing drill so that they can go out and march past a reviewing stand in the heat?

Hell, ask them if they'd rather have a machine signed greeting card addressed to "Occupant" that says


"Thank you for your service in the

[__] US Army
[__] US Navy
[__] USAF
[__] USMC
[__] USCG
[__] other
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or spend a couple of months practicing drill so that they can go out and march past a reviewing stand in the heat?
 
dobieg said:
Go after Trump if you want but going after the parade is a disservice to our uniformed men and women.
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I have seen at least three different surveys of current military personnel and all of the surveys point to the same thing; the military wants NOTHING to do with Trump's parade
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
If you think that the parade is being organized to "honor our men and women who serve" you should have your head candled.

If you don't believe me, just ask any serving (or former) member if they would rather have some increase in benefits or spend a couple of months practicing drill so that they can go out and march past a reviewing stand in the heat?

Hell, ask them if they'd rather have a machine signed greeting card addressed to "Occupant" that says


"Thank you for your service in the

[__] US Army
[__] US Navy
[__] USAF
[__] USMC
[__] USCG
[__] other
​

or spend a couple of months practicing drill so that they can go out and march past a reviewing stand in the heat?
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Both my wife and myself served. Enlisted. We think it's a great idea.
 
dobieg said:
Both my wife and myself served. Enlisted. We think it's a great idea.
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Great.

Now go to the nearest military base and offer your services as a substitute for anyone who is actually going to have to train for and march in the parade.

I suggest that you make the announcement of your availability from a very well protected position so that you don't get trampled in the stampede.

I joined in 1961 and finally left in 1999. Believe me, I'd prefer cleaning my cat's anal glands than being involved in a fandango like the one that Mr. Trump is planning. Not only that, but I'd do my damnedest to make sure that none of the people who worked for/under me who didn't actually volunteer to participate had to participate. I estimate that the percentage who would NOT actually volunteer to spend hours drilling so that they could march a couple of miles in the heat would run slightly higher than 99.99%.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
What those fools at CNN are overlooking is the fact that those "normal training exercises" in the ROK do not generate a dime in tourism dollars for the United States of America whereas Mr. Trump's Triumph will draw visitors from around the world and generate millions of dollars for American businesses (like hotels).

Besides those soldiers are just sitting around not doing anything and living off their "entitlements" so there is absolutely nothing wrong with using them for something which will boost the American economy, strengthen America's national security, and Make America Great Again.
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Likely billions.

I just hope they can find a way to roll the USS Ronald Reagan down Pennsylvania Avenue. That thing is bad ass.
 
dobieg said:
Ok, I looked up a source I trust and you were right. The majority of service members do not want a parade.

I would defer to their wishes.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/02/08/89-of-readers-say-no-parade/
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I think what is truly great now is how the public is so supportive of our military members.

I always go out of my way to show my appreciation to a service member.
I think back to the guys coming back at the end of WWII and the appreciation they received and just wow.

This parade I think is just too much about Trump wanting the troops to have to march by and salute a guy who has no idea what it is like to serve.

And yes I served 1970-1974.
 
dobieg said:
So what?


It's still an honor for our military men and women to have a parade.
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Oh bull****. I will tell you what the military men and women are thinking with regards to this parade.... "Oh great, another dog and pony show I have to be up for."
 
MTAtech said:
Can we fly the Trump-baby at the parade?

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When they said it was going to be a giant balloon, I was picturing a Macy's Thanksgiving Parade size or even a hot air balloon. I was kinda disappointed.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
From CNN

Trump's military parade expected to cost nearly as much as 'tremendously expensive' cancelled war games
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President Donald Trump's military parade in DC is likely to cost nearly as much as the now canceled military exercise with South Korea that Trump called "tremendously expensive" and said cost "a fortune," three US defense officials tell CNN.

The parade, which is now scheduled to take place on November 10, is currently estimated to cost approximately $12 million, the officials said. One official called the number "a planning figure," saying cost estimates could still change as planning develops.

"We save a fortune by not doing war games, as long as we are negotiating in good faith - which both sides are!" Trump tweeted in June following his meeting with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in Singapore.

North Korea had long sought an end to the exercises, which it says are provocative. US military leaders have said the exercises are necessary to maintain the readiness of US troops in South Korea.

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What those fools at CNN are overlooking is the fact that those "normal training exercises" in the ROK do not generate a dime in tourism dollars for the United States of America whereas Mr. Trump's Triumph will draw visitors from around the world and generate millions of dollars for American businesses (like hotels).

Besides those soldiers are just sitting around not doing anything and living off their "entitlements" so there is absolutely nothing wrong with using them for something which will boost the American economy, strengthen America's national security, and Make America Great Again.
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Amazing how conservatives get upset about feeding impoverished children with tax dollars, but throwing parties for Trump is ok.
 
it is 1/6th of what it cost to by one airplane...

Give me a ****ing break...
 
poweRob said:
Oh bull****. I will tell you what the military men and women are thinking with regards to this parade.... "Oh great, another dog and pony show I have to be up for."
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One thing that a lot of people don't realize is that the US Army, USN, USAF, USMC, and USCG don't do a lot of "drilling on a section front" (i.e. marching more than three abreast) and that the time it will take to get the troops trained so that they don't look like a gaggle of geese when marching on a frontage that isn't dwarfed by the size of the street (and look rather punk compared to a Russian parade) is going to be substantial - to say absolutely nothing whatsoever about how non-productive it is going to be.

When was the last time you heard the order "__[fill in the blank]__ will march past in column and column of route." given?

Do the drill instructors even know how a "column" (as opposed to a "column of route") is manoeuvred? If not (which I suspect is the case) then the learning curve is going to have to be REALLY steep.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
One thing that a lot of people don't realize is that the US Army, USN, USAF, USMC, and USCG don't do a lot of "drilling on a section front" (i.e. marching more than three abreast) and that the time it will take to get the troops trained so that they don't look like a gaggle of geese when marching on a frontage that isn't dwarfed by the size of the street (and look rather punk compared to a Russian parade) is going to be substantial - to say absolutely nothing whatsoever about how non-productive it is going to be.

When was the last time you heard the order "__[fill in the blank]__ will march past in column and column of route." given?

Do the drill instructors even know how a "column" (as opposed to a "column of route") is manoeuvred? If not (which I suspect is the case) then the learning curve is going to have to be REALLY steep.
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Waste of time and money just to strike Trump's draft dodging ego under the guise of honoring the troops.n

It's nuts idiots buy this stupidity.
 
dobieg said:
Why is it a problem to throw a parade to honor our men and women who serve?
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Because the poor military bastards who have to train, march and coordinate all that crap hate doing it. Trump is using them not honoring them. The parade idea is pure authoritarian bull****. Trump does not respect the US military.

I recommend every person ordered to march report to sick call with bone spurs one week before the parade.
 
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