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Woman Who Sought Secret Meeting for Trump and Putin Is Charged as Russian Agent

Who cares, turn yourself in if you feel guilty. Stop trying to downplay the latest indictment with a ficti ious, mysterious reference to something unrelated. If you were directed the way she was in other countries and you were required to disclose yourself by law but did not, the I guess you are no better than all those illegal immigrants. May as well self deport?


Yeah. I self deported back to USA. I read the charges. Pretty damn thin.
 
That's true. I've heard someone mention that Mueller has passed cases to the state level to avoid pardons. Of course, we don't even know if Mueller is related to this. It could be a completely different investigation.

Looks like you might be right....

"....According to the Justice Department’s press release, “The investigation into this matter was conducted by the FBI’s Washington Field Office. The case is being prosecuted by the National Security Section of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia and the National Security Division of the U.S. Department of Justice.”

https://heavy.com/news/2018/07/maria-butina/


They may have been tipped off by this guy...

"....According to the unconfirmed reports, the activity of M. Butina was disclosed by the leak attributed to ‘Moshe’ Vyacheslav Kantor (Viatcheslav Moshe Kantor – wikipedia.org). His brave yet limited attempts to change the course of the Russian Federation is widely known and reported...."

Is Viatcheslav Moshe Kantor an ally of USA? What ties Maria Butina, Alexander Torshin, Pavel Liwinski, Andrey Kostin and Melnichenko together? - WISC24


Apparently, he's on the sanctions list and may have been cooperating with the FBI in hopes of getting off the list.
 
53 posts in this thread. My guess? Right wingers haven't figured out the angle for this. Tucker Carlson and that lying sack of **** Hannity need to hurry up and bark their instructions to the followers so they know what to do.

I can't imagine that Don Jr. isnt feeling the heat.

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.
 
I'm inclined to believe the NRA accepted that she was working for a "gun rights" organization without knowing that she was a Russian agent.

That might be somewhat plausible if wasn't for one thing and that is that there isn't any such thing as "gun rights" in Russia.
 
Yeah. I self deported back to USA. I read the charges. Pretty damn thin.
That's because the laws are thin with regard to preventing a foreigner from conspiring to change our election.
In a free nation, it's not uncommon to have to nail really bad people, on relatively minor offenses...like tax evasion for example.

She didn't register herself as a foreign agent. If she had been an American agent, she could have done much of that legally (it appears). That's because we don't monitor everyone 24/7 proactively, which is a good thing. That she could use free speech and engage in operations to influence the election as an American, is worrisome, but would be legal.

No, if that charging document were more robust, she'd be a terrible agent. No agent on such a mission should needlessly expose themselves by engaging in other crimes not expressly required for the fulfillment of their mission. Maybe you hadn't thought of that when you were a super secret spy.
 
That's because the laws are thin with regard to preventing a foreigner from conspiring to change our election.
In a free nation, it's not uncommon to have to nail really bad people, on relatively minor offenses...like tax evasion for example.

She didn't register herself as a foreign agent. If she had been an American agent, she could have done much of that legally (it appears). That's because we don't monitor everyone 24/7 proactively, which is a good thing. That she could use free speech and engage in operations to influence the election as an American, is worrisome, but would be legal.

No, if that charging document were more robust, she'd be a terrible agent. No agent on such a mission should needlessly expose themselves by engaging in other crimes not expressly required for the fulfillment of their mission. Maybe you hadn't thought of that when you were a super secret spy.

I'm a not so super secret businessman. Most of what is included in the charges against her fit what many of us do internationally.
 
I'm a not so super secret businessman. Most of what is included in the charges against her fit what many of us do internationally.
It's as though you didn't actually read and respond, but just reputed what you wrote. Wait, it's exactly like that.

Again, read the post and respond to it, if you have something to rebut. Else, I have to conclude you cannot or choose not to.
 
53 posts in this thread. My guess? Right wingers haven't figured out the angle for this. Tucker Carlson and that lying sack of **** Hannity need to hurry up and bark their instructions to the followers so they know what to do.

I can't imagine that Don Jr. isnt feeling the heat.

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.

Yeah, I don't get the lack of posting either. That criminal complaint was jaw dropping.

There's a back channel between the Kremlin and members of the GOP leadership through the NRA
There's a back channel between the Kremlin and the National Prayer Breakfast
There are connections between the Kremlin and US media personalities.

And who is the Second Pozner? My initial thought was Trump. But maybe it's Hannity? And there's a lot of reason to suspect that Dana Rohrabacher has strong ties to Russia, but what about Nunes? Rand Paul? Have the Russians been blackmailing anyone else?
 
This is absolutely mind boggling. Possibly the biggest story all year in terms of Russian meddling and collusion.
 
Yeah, I don't get the lack of posting either. That criminal complaint was jaw dropping.

There's a back channel between the Kremlin and members of the GOP leadership through the NRA
There's a back channel between the Kremlin and the National Prayer Breakfast
There are connections between the Kremlin and US media personalities.

And who is the Second Pozner? My initial thought was Trump. But maybe it's Hannity? And there's a lot of reason to suspect that Dana Rohrabacher has strong ties to Russia, but what about Nunes? Rand Paul? Have the Russians been blackmailing anyone else?

I've been reading the indictment. She has been charged with conspiracy to commit FARA violations. It's 2 Emails and conspiracy to engage in lobbying and the crimes that took place from 2015-2017

The Left is now making asses out of themselves confusing every red head to ever enter Trump's oval office with Butina, including a NSC staffer and a reporter.

Breaking News ! Two new text from Lisa Page to Andrew McCabe have been released. These text WERE NOT PROVIDED TO CONGRESS.
I wonder why ?

The text clearly show close WH involment with the Clinton investigation
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...as-involved-with-trump-campaign-spying-video/
 
I've been reading the indictment. She has been charged with conspiracy to commit FARA violations. It's 2 Emails and conspiracy to engage in lobbying and the crimes that took place from 2015-2017

The Left is now making asses out of themselves confusing every red head to ever enter Trump's oval office with Butina, including a NSC staffer and a reporter.

Breaking News ! Two new text from Lisa Page to Andrew McCabe have been released. These text WERE NOT PROVIDED TO CONGRESS.
I wonder why ?

The text clearly show close WH involment with the Clinton investigation
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...as-involved-with-trump-campaign-spying-video/

This thread has nothing to do with Lisa Page and Andrew McCabe, and your unsourced texts are clearly off topic, too.
 
This thread has nothing to do with Lisa Page and Andrew McCabe, and your unsourced texts are clearly off topic, too.

No but it does have to do with Maria Butima. Again I've read the affidavit. She's been charged with FARA violations it seems
Maybe not the big break you people were hoping for but hey, you think it's the biggest story of the year. lol !
 
No but it does have to do with Maria Butima. Again I've read the affidavit. She's been charged with FARA violations it seems
Maybe not the big break you people were hoping for but hey, you think it's the biggest story of the year. lol !
The desperation in your post is amazing. You do realize who she was in contact with, right?

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.
 
No but it does have to do with Maria Butima. Again I've read the affidavit. She's been charged with FARA violations it seems
Maybe not the big break you people were hoping for but hey, you think it's the biggest story of the year. lol !
Why are you attacking liberals, and off-topic people, and not discussing the crime against the U.S. from yet another Russian agent who we just indicted, among all the others? You sound like Trump.
 
Why are you attacking liberals, and off-topic people, and not discussing the crime against the U.S. from yet another Russian agent who we just indicted, among all the others? You sound like Trump.

It's their main tool of engagement. Spin off topic, if you can bring up Hillary or Obama that is best.

Trumpeteers aren't looking to engage, they're looking to deflect, distort, and dismiss. The 3 D's of TDS.
 
It's their main tool of engagement. Spin off topic, if you can bring up Hillary or Obama that is best.

Trumpeteers aren't looking to engage, they're looking to deflect, distort, and dismiss. The 3 D's of TDS.

I just found out why we've had all this new activity from Muleler and the DOJs indictment of this Russian agent for FARRA violations

Turns out Lisa Page threw Peter Sztrok under the bus. John Ratcliff of Texas says Page testified that their tweets meant exactly what they said, which contradicts be Sztroks testimony
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...xt-messages-mean-exactly-what-they-say-video/
 
I just found out why we've had all this new activity from Muleler and the DOJs indictment of this Russian agent for FARRA violations

Turns out Lisa Page threw Peter Sztrok under the bus. John Ratcliff of Texas says Page testified that their tweets meant exactly what they said, which contradicts be Sztroks testimony
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...xt-messages-mean-exactly-what-they-say-video/

That was Strzok's testimony, too. But maybe you should go start a separate thread about that. This is about the Russian agent caught establishing lines of communication between GOP lawmakers and one of the country's leading enemies.
 
I'm a not so super secret businessman. Most of what is included in the charges against her fit what many of us do internationally.

Also, I just heard a legal analyst (sober and credible) discuss that it was clear the evidence presented was only enough to establish probable cause to allow them to go ahead and arrest her before she left to CA (not consequential), but presumably to get her before she might try to flee overseas.

Which fits with the rest of the investigation, there has been a concerted effort to delay things ( Flynn, Papadoplus) presumably to keep the integrity of the ongoing investigation maximized.

In other words, this may not even be all they have on her. More wait and see.
 
That was Strzok's testimony, too. But maybe you should go start a separate thread about that. This is about the Russian agent caught establishing lines of communication between GOP lawmakers and one of the country's leading enemies.

Yeah and tell him that he should place it in the Conspiracy section of the forum too.
 
Also, I just heard a legal analyst (sober and credible) discuss that it was clear the evidence presented was only enough to establish probable cause to allow them to go ahead and arrest her before she left to CA (not consequential), but presumably to get her before she might try to flee overseas.

Which fits with the rest of the investigation, there has been a concerted effort to delay things ( Flynn, Papadoplus) presumably to keep the integrity of the ongoing investigation maximized.

In other words, this may not even be all they have on her. More wait and see.

That's right. The wording of document clearly indicates that they do have more to say about Ms Butina and associates. Another uncomfortable aspect of this is that her activities in this respect predate Trump's candidacy and may indicate that the GOP had begun crawling into bed with the Russians before Trump came along.
 
The nerve of this witch, coming over here and laundering her rubles through American businesses, so they can make foreign illegal campaign contributions look legal!

God, I'm glad Mueller is on a witch hunt, or he would not have caught the witch! LOL!
 
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