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Trump sides with Russia against FBI at Helsinki summit

VanceMack said:
:lamo

The same mindless leftist twats that have been ****ting themselves for the last three years are ****ting themselves over 'TREASON!!! and TRAITOR!!! bit of course they also did the same thing over CHILDREN IN CAGES!!! and KETCHUP ON STEAKS!!!

In other words...they are full of ****...and they know it.

Trump should NOT have made public comments on the nations intel agencies at a summit with ANY foreign leader. Beyond that, this is the usual hysteria by the usual hysterical leftists. And in a month, it will be something else.
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In other words your ego cannot bear the strain of admitting that Trump is the weakest President ever to speak with a Russian leader and his entire trip served to weaken America and bolster Putin. Your ego is more important that your country?
 
iguanaman said:
In other words your ego cannot bear the strain of admitting that Trump is the weakest President ever to speak with a Russian leader and his entire trip served to weaken America and bolster Putin. Your ego is more important that your country?
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:lamo

There are no 'other words' needed. Trump made a mistake. But the hysteria exhibited by the mindless rabid left is the same idiotic **** they have been doing for three years. Its pathetic.
 
Casca XV said:
Yet there has never been a modern day President who has benefited the American people more.
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Especially family farmers going bankrupt from the trump/gop tariffs.
 
Casca XV said:
Yet there has never been a modern day President who has benefited the American people more.
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LOL How is taking sides with Putin against America a benefit? How is cutting his taxes by a $ billion a benefit when most of us get enough for a night on the town a benefit.
 
**** it. It's time for Traitor Trump to go. I'll take my chances with President Pence. At least he's at a far lesser risk of leaking our national security or tweeting his way into a nuclear standoff.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44852812

US President Donald Trump has defended Russia over claims of interference in the 2016 presidential election.

After face-to-face talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Mr Trump contradicted US intelligence agencies and said there had been no reason for Russia to meddle in the vote.
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Putin, of course, agreed with him that there had been no meddling.
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How many anti trump threads in breaking news are you going to make in a single day, geez. I've already seen 6. At what point does this start to count as a Troll?
 
Jack Hays said:
Public expressions of political preference are not meddling. We have free speech after all. To support your claim you would need something secret and nefarious. I doubt your personal goodwill was ever within any American's reach anyway.
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it's still meddling in other peoples elections .... America bragged about putting Yeltsin in power in 1997 .... you interfered in removing the democratically elected president of Ukraine Viktoria Nuland was caught on phone saying how much the US had spent on color revolutions in Ukraine and saying f**k the EU .... Snowden also told us about US interference in our politics in the EU and around the world ..... face the facts nobody really trusts the USA no one
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Um, O was POTUS, and indicating that negotiation flexibility on missile treaties after the 2012 would be greater...is not traitorous. Conspiring w/ Putin to influence the '16 election....is traitorous.
Your premise admits to Putin's attempt to turn the '16 election. It has been documented that 1) O feared his actions would be viewed as favoring Hill, 2)No one expected the orangatan would win....not even himself.
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In other words, it’s kind of what like Trump has been saying: Obama and others didn’t much care about Russian interference— as long as Mrs. Clinton was going to win. When she didn’t, then it became a national crisis.
 
Tangmo said:
The American Right has become what we once fought against. So we renew the fight which this time is on the home front as it were.

Right whingers and other Republicans have admired Putin for many years, speaking out in praise or admiration of Putin the strongman dictator. Once Trump fell in with Putin the right toned down their praise of Putin to focus on Trump instead. Now Putin-Trump have presented themselves together and openly. Such is the hubris each has and that they build synergistically.

Putin-Trump and Their Fanboyz are fierce in their ends, purposes, goals. They neither quit nor do they fashion a means of escape. They do not go quietly in the night. Trump will need to be kicked out and His Fanboyz sedated or subdued. In Brussels and Helsinki Trump dissembled US national security, defense, sovereignty which the American Right welcomes and has remained silent about.

Given Potus no longer enforces these vital number one matters as required in the Constitution we will need to look to those commanders in uniform who are sworn to it and who take their oath seriously. Because Trump in contrast took his oath of office then wiped his ass with it. It was a same day turnaround. Putin has since been handing Trump copies to use on a daily basis. This will not stand as Potus no longer protects the United States against its foreign enemies. Potus, His Fanboyz and USA foreign enemies have unmistakably become one and the same. This cannot stand nor will it stand.
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A coup d’etat!!! Rah! Rah!
 
Athanasius68 said:
A coup d’etat!!! Rah! Rah!
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No not.

It is positive and encouraging that hours after Trump left Brussels in a shambles Pentagon military commanders and civilian subcabinet officials began calling Nato countries to negate everything Trump said and did during his tour as a human flamethrower. Pentagon commanders have already said they will disobey an illegal order by Trump, as they must disobey an illegal order by anyone. Trump is violating the Nato treaty by his actions and words, i.e., failing to faithfully see that the laws are executed faithfully. Trump is violating his oath by denigrating US intelligence services, equating them to Putin's every vile word and doing it openly before the world besides. There is much more.

Military commanders in the Pentagon know Trump took his oath to the Constitution then wiped his ass with it and that Trump has done this each day. Military officers take the oath most seriously which is to say they do not respect the wretch named Trump who presumes to be their commander in chief. Potus is anyway not included in the military officer oath -- no one is in it. Neither are commanders in the Pentagon going to obey an illegal order from Putin's go-fer. The facts on the ground do not mean tanks rolling up the south lawn of the WH however. Not. There are other ways short of impeachment by the House and removal by a 2/3 vote of the Senate, the latter being wholly unrealistic up to this point and foreseeably.

The military acting alone to remove Trump would constitute a coup d'etat. You can bet the ranch that will not happen. Not now, not ever.
 
Athanasius68 said:
In other words, it’s kind of what like Trump has been saying: Obama and others didn’t much care about Russian interference— as long as Mrs. Clinton was going to win. When she didn’t, then it became a national crisis.
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Trump isn't Putin's only useful idiot.

Or loyal fanboy. Because the American Right have become what we once fought against. Trump is their long pined for savior and vehicle to power. The shelf life on it is beginning to run out.
 
It's time for Congress to rebuke 45. Congress needs to censure him.
 
iguanaman said:
Do you have evidence that the Russians attacked the 2012 election with the same extensive plan as in 2016? Of course not. You are talking thru your hat as usual.
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The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Regardless, that's really not the point. Russian cyber-attacks were evident in other countries as early as 2007, and that may reflect the evolution of our own detection capability more than anything. Fact is Putin was always the same deceitful enemy he is today.
 
Godric1970 said:
it's still meddling in other peoples elections .... America bragged about putting Yeltsin in power in 1997 .... you interfered in removing the democratically elected president of Ukraine Viktoria Nuland was caught on phone saying how much the US had spent on color revolutions in Ukraine and saying f**k the EU .... Snowden also told us about US interference in our politics in the EU and around the world ..... face the facts nobody really trusts the USA no one
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No. We did not put Yeltsin in power. That is a Putin propaganda meme.
No. We did not remove the president of Ukraine. That is another Putin propaganda meme.
Snowden is a treacherous liar.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44852812

US President Donald Trump has defended Russia over claims of interference in the 2016 presidential election.

After face-to-face talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Mr Trump contradicted US intelligence agencies and said there had been no reason for Russia to meddle in the vote.
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Putin, of course, agreed with him that there had been no meddling.
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They call that treason!
 
Blue_State said:
On some level, if he says the Russian's did meddle in the election, then it would give weight to he is an illegitimate President. He isn't going to do that.
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Are you justifying treason
 
VanceMack said:
:lamo

The previous administration took Putin in the ass for 8 years...



And NOW you are worried about your moms abusive boyfriend???
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Side-stepping, diversion, and whataboutism is old, stale and is no longer pertinent. (Never was actually.)

This is one incident you Trump Fanboyz are not gonna be able to duck, excuse, explain, spin, divert, blame, or any other of your usual tactics, to avoid the light being shown on your atrocious ideology and idolatry for the Traitor-In-Chief.

If the Fanboyz had any shame, they would be ashamed. But since they do not, the best we can do is just ignore their bleating in the night and not be side-tracked by their endless excuses and diversions.
 
Trump's Cowardly, Reckless Performance
Charlie Sykes, The Weekly Standard



​Donald Trump’s atrocious performance in Helsinki shows that nothing positive he might do is worth the downside.George Will has described Donald Trump as a “Vesuvius of mendacities.” But as we have discovered in the last 24 hours, we have failed to grasp the full scope of his volcanic recklessness; his obsequiousness, his dishonesty, his willingness to insult his own country, all the while suggesting a moral equivalency between Vladimir Putin’s thugocracy and American democracy.

It seems only moments ago that Republicans derided Barack Obama’s “apology tour.” But that has been replaced by Donald Trump’s Groveling Tour, a peculiar combination of bullying our friends and fawning on our enemies. Monday’s summit seems destined to be recorded in the annals of diplomatic folly, with geopolitical consequences that will last far longer than our own frenetic attention spans.
By now it is almost tedious to point out the contrast between Trump’s disdain for the leaders of our closest allies and his fascination with the world’s most thuggish and violent dictators. What we have learned again is that at the heart of every truculent and strutting bully is a craven sycophant eager to cower before a bigger bully. . . .


 
Captain America said:
Side-stepping, diversion, and whataboutism is old, stale and is no longer pertinent. (Never was actually.)

This is one incident you Trump Fanboyz are not gonna be able to duck, excuse, explain, spin, divert, blame, or any other of your usual tactics, to avoid the light being shown on your atrocious ideology and idolatry for the Traitor-In-Chief.

If the Fanboyz had any shame, they would be ashamed. But since they do not, the best we can do is just ignore their bleating in the night and not be side-tracked by their endless excuses and diversions.
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Ihave made severalcomments regarding this incident and not ONCE hve I aid anything OTHER than Trump was 100% wrong to make the comments he made. Calling out Trump for doing a 'wrong ' thing is appropriate. ****ting yourself and shrieking TRAITOR!!! TREASON!!! thats just....stupid.

And I think you know it.
 
VanceMack said:
Ihave made severalcomments regarding this incident and not ONCE hve I aid anything OTHER than Trump was 100% wrong to make the comments he made. Calling out Trump for doing a 'wrong ' thing is appropriate. ****ting yourself and shrieking TRAITOR!!! TREASON!!! thats just....stupid.
And I think you know it.
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You agree what Trump said on the world stage, was wrong. That's the first step.
And if this is what he says in public, consider that in private, it's more pronounced.

Now you just need to wait until the adrenaline fades, and use your powers of reasoning to figure out why he said what he said, where he said it.
 
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