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Trump sees no reason to believe Russia behind election meddling [W:1173]

Conservative said:
That's because it is easy to fool people like you with rhetoric as you continue to show. TARP brought us out of recession not Obama but Obama did generate the worst recovery from a recession in U.S. history. Your hatred of capitalism and our economic model is on full display as is your ignorance of the Obama actual results. Why don't you post those Obama results for us so we all can see why you give him so much credit?
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I especially want him to tell us all about Obama's winning strategies, like his 800 billion-plus stimulus package.
I'll go make us some popcorn. :cool:
 
cuban smokes said:
I hate capitalism? LOL .............. you sure make a lot of ASSumptions ................

so, you would rather be in a depression than to have a recovery that YOU don't approve of? Wow; talk about arrogance.

Arrogance is yet another conservative value ...............
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Irony.
 
Conservative said:
Kind of like the left throwing you red meat about Trump and his so called Russian connections when the true connections were between Hillary and Russia. Rhetoric means nothing, actions do and show me the results of those actions?
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You keep trying to paint everyone with the same brush which is why it's hard to take you seriously. Let's look at the actions once we're further along in this economy and see the full effects of his policies; the context will be important and the other variables haven't manifested themselves yet. As for rhetoric, if it didn't mean anything it wouldn't be used.
 
trixare4kids said:
Yeah, whatever happened to all those shovel ready jobs Obama promised the working class?
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Like with everything else they got lost in shipping. here are results the left wants to ignore

Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
Original Data Value

Series Id: LNS12000000
Seasonally Adjusted
Series title: (Seas) Employment Level
Labor force status: Employed
Type of data: Number in thousands
Age: 16 years and over
Years: 2008 to 2018

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
2008 146378 146156 146086 146132 145908 145737 145532 145203 145076 144802 144100 143369
2009 142152 141640 140707 140656 140248 140009 139901 139492 138818 138432 138659 138013
2010 138438 138581 138751 139297 139241 139141 139179 139438 139396 139119 139044 139301
2011 139250 139394 139639 139586 139624 139384 139524 139942 140183 140368 140826 140902
2012 141584 141858 142036 141899 142206 142391 142292 142291 143044 143431 143333 143330
2013 143292 143362 143316 143635 143882 143999 144264 144326 144418 143537 144479 144778
2014 145122 145161 145673 145680 145825 146267 146401 146522 146752 147411 147391 147597
2015 148113 148100 148175 148505 148788 148806 148830 149136 148810 149254 149486 150135
2016 150576 151005 151229 150978 151048 151164 151484 151687 151815 151939 152126 152233
2017 152076 152511 153064 153161 152892 153250 153511 153471 154324 153846 153917 154021
2018 154430 155215 155178 155181 155474 155687
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trixare4kids said:
I especially want him to tell us all about Obama's winning strategies, like his 800 billion-plus stimulus package.
I'll go make us some popcorn. :cool:
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Nothing like a successful economic program that takes employment from 142 million down to 139 million two years later. That is a liberal success
 
cuban smokes said:
I hate capitalism? LOL .............. you sure make a lot of ASSumptions ................

so, you would rather be in a depression than to have a recovery that YOU don't approve of? Wow; talk about arrogance.

Arrogance is yet another conservative value ...............
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Then you shouldn't have any problem posting the Obama results to support your claims? Just posted the jobs numbers, want the GDP growth numbers? Doesn't look like facts are ever going to change the mind of a leftwing socialist ideologue
 
ElChupacabra said:
:lamo

You keep trying to paint everyone with the same brush which is why it's hard to take you seriously. Let's look at the actions once we're further along in this economy and see the full effects of his policies; the context will be important and the other variables haven't manifested themselves yet. As for rhetoric, if it didn't mean anything it wouldn't be used.
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I will judge Trump on the results not his rhetoric, will you do the same thing?
 
Conservative said:
I will judge Trump on the results not his rhetoric, will you do the same thing?
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Sure. I'm curious to see what this will all mean at the end of his presidency. As for his rhetoric, I choose not to ignore it either because it's part of his presidency.
 
Atomic Kid said:
True but not really all that profound of a finding seeing as though we have the largest and most diverse cyber infrastructure, a huge mix of private, corporate and governmental at both local and federal levels, in the entire world. And being the open society that we are we would of course further lend us to being more vulnerable to attack than any other major country.
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All the more reason for strong policy leadership.
 
Jack Hays said:
All the more reason for strong policy leadership.
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Which we certainly aren't getting despite the 'blinking red'pleadings from Trump's own appointed national security and DOJ department heads.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
If you think this is the first time another country has interfered in our election process and caused one of the candidates to lose you are naïve and uninformed. I remember when Iran took the hostages and would not give them back until Ronald Reagan won the election.
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So you are OK with Russia rigging our election. That's MAGA? I suppose when it's your candidate, all is good?
Where are the real Americans.

There was no collusion there either.
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You sound like someone...who is it...someone that always says that...

Time to move on and get better security and stop crying over Obamas failures.
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Time to move on. But Obama. I love it. If this is what the right has been reduced to, easy peazy.
 
Atomic Kid said:
Which we certainly aren't getting despite the 'blinking red'pleadings from Trump's own appointed national security and DOJ department heads.
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No disagreement.

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Conservative said:
Nothing like a successful economic program that takes employment from 142 million down to 139 million two years later. That is a liberal success
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Obamanomics! He made a mess of it and said he inherited it from George W. :lamo
 
Mach said:
So you are OK with Russia rigging our election. That's MAGA? I suppose when it's your candidate, all is good?
Where are the real Americans.

You sound like someone...who is it...someone that always says that...



Time to move on. But Obama. I love it. If this is what the right has been reduced to, easy peazy.
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Now how could that ever happen with Obama in the WH and his Administration? Say it isn't so?? Interesting how you leftists always blame someone else for your failures. Hate to break it to you but Obama was in the WH when all that hacking occurred.
 
JacksinPA said:
I don't know what went on in the one-on-one meet but Trump looked weaker & less assertive than I have ever seen him. I think Putin has something big on him. Pee tapes?
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Its much bigger and more damaging than the pee pee tapes. No one cares about those. IMHO, substantially all of Trump's net worth is because of Russia. Without Putin, Trump is a failed businessman (and doesn't even play a successful one on TV)...

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https://www.vox.com/2017/7/18/15983910/donald-trump-russia-putin-fbi-collusion-fusion-gps
 
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Conservative said:
Now how could that ever happen with Obama in the WH and his Administration? Say it isn't so?? Interesting how you leftists always blame someone else for your failures. Hate to break it to you but Obama was in the WH when all that hacking occurred.
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You are aware that the Obama administration asked leaders of congress to sign a statement condemning the hacking, yes? Democrats agreed and in the end McConnell did not agree to sign. The idea was to have a bi-partisan statement to avoid the perception of it being politically motivated. So you're not being honest in terms of what actions were taken and the obstacles to those actions.
 
ElChupacabra said:
You are aware that the Obama administration asked leaders of congress to sign a statement condemning the hacking, yes? Democrats agreed and in the end McConnell did not agree to sign. The idea was to have a bi-partisan statement to avoid the perception of it being politically motivated. So you're not being honest in terms of what actions were taken and the obstacles to those actions.
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Now there is a strong reaction, asking members of congress to sign a statement?? wow, why don't we just bomb the hell out of them over democrats losing an election. This is a dead issue and nothing more than an attempt to divert from the actual results being generated. As has been posted here and ignored the U.S. has been interfering in elections all over the world and the worst thing that happened here was the DNC computers hacked, BFD, no votes changed and Democrats lost, get over it
 
Conservative said:
Now there is a strong reaction, asking members of congress to sign a statement?? wow, why don't we just bomb the hell out of them over democrats losing an election. This is a dead issue and nothing more than an attempt to divert from the actual results being generated. As has been posted here and ignored the U.S. has been interfering in elections all over the world and the worst thing that happened here was the DNC computers hacked, BFD, no votes changed and Democrats lost, get over it
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I must say, reading a "conservative" state that this isn't a big deal is pretty funny. Again, you're a one trick pony and only talk about economic results as if nothing else mattered. Who cares how I go my money as long as I got mine! So according to you nothing else should matter so long as the numbers are doing well. Good lord you're obtuse.
 
ElChupacabra said:
I must say, reading a "conservative" state that this isn't a big deal is pretty funny. Again, you're a one trick pony and only talk about economic results as if nothing else mattered. Who cares how I go my money as long as I got mine! So according to you nothing else should matter so long as the numbers are doing well. Good lord you're obtuse.
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Yes, thank you, that would be me, guess after running a 200 million dollar business for years I have very little interest in words knowing that results matter. I also know that without a strong economy and national security nothing else matters. Unlike the left rhetoric doesn't motivate me as I always question what I am told, some good advice for you. Getting mine is the first step in becoming less dependent on the federal taxpayers. The left isn't interested in anyone else getting theirs and are only interested in power and creating career positions.

Tell me how great you are may make you feel good but I am interested only in what you have accomplished and the results you generate.
 
Conservative said:
Yes, thank you, that would be me, guess after running a 200 million dollar business for years I have very little interest in words knowing that results matter. I also know that without a strong economy and national security nothing else matters. Unlike the left rhetoric doesn't motivate me as I always question what I am told, some good advice for you. Getting mine is the first step in becoming less dependent on the federal taxpayers. The left isn't interested in anyone else getting theirs and are only interested in power and creating career positions.

Tell me how great you are may make you feel good but I am interested only in what you have accomplished and the results you generate.
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That's great for you and those who aren't affected either, but there's a much larger world where rhetoric does matter and influences results.
 
ElChupacabra said:
That's great for you and those who aren't affected either, but there's a much larger world where rhetoric does matter and influences results.
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Go into a private sector interview believing that and see what happens. You can tell an employer how great you are but you better have the results to prove it. I would never hire you based upon what you tell me but rather what you have done
 
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Conservative said:
Go into a private sector interview believing that and see what happens. You can tell an employer how great you are but you better have the results to prove it. I would never hire you based upon what you tell me but rather what you have done
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Of course you need to be able to demonstrate you can accomplish things. Now back to the topic, it is interesting that Trump would accept Putin's denial with no evidence while having evidence from his intelligence team.
 
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ElChupacabra said:
I've worked in the private sector, and who you are and what you say plays into it as much as the work you produce; for those who value integrity anyway. The same goes for any situation; there are many ways to do things but how you do them will define the kind of person you are. This is even more applicable at the senior level of leadership. Producing results and being a fair, honest person are not mutually exclusive but it is the harder road to follow.
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Maybe a harder road to follow HOWEVER you aren't going to get your job based upon your rhetoric but rather based upon your resume and results generated. That is the point you still want to ignore.
 
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