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Trump sees no reason to believe Russia behind election meddling [W:1173]

EnigmaO01 said:
Well glad you're on this planet. Got news for you. Savor that history 'cause it's going to all come crashing down this fall for the republicans.

And please don't insult my intelligence by giving the orange sphincter credit for an economy that was coming back regardless of who was in office.
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So then results truly don't matter because I have seen none from you. I cannot insult your intelligence between intelligent people don't argue based upon opinion but rather data and results so I have no idea how intelligent you are because opinions don't win debates and opinions don't pay the bills.
 
GDViking said:
Yes thank you president Obama!!!
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I agree with you, he gave us Trump because I cannot find the economic policies Obama generated that gave us the Trump results. I do see where Trump revoked all of Obama's EO's however and then see the results generated. You on the other hand spend all your time here buying what you are told totally ignoring data and results.
 
Conservative said:
None viable, only two viable candidates and I chose wisely, you didn't and now you continue to whine about it
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No whining here. I'm looking forward to hearing yours when Trump gets that orange jumpsuit to match his skin color.

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MateoMtnClimber said:
May we put this into perspective? Conservatives and many liberals, including me, protested the Obama administration's Russia policy. I'm protesting 45's administration's Russia policy too. But where did the conservatives go? Many of them are mindlessly bitching about Obama, branding liberals as hypocrites, and giving 45 an unlimited pass on the entire disastrous ordeal. Mind you, I'm just talking about the conservative bots in this forum. Even the congressional Republicans have ejected 45 since his colossal failure earlier today. So I'm suggesting that whatever we think about Obama doesn't really matter when it comes to evaluating 45. That's a source of intellectual honesty and moral integrity.
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I have to call it like I see it but I truly believe those liberals who protested the Obama administration's
policies are in the minority. Something like 60% went along with his :bs

And yes, it does matter because it points out the hypocrisy and complicity of the majority who went along with Obama's Russian reset.
 
lurchadams said:
This has been such an era of firsts over the past few years set by Trump: Historically high popular vote loss, while still being inaugurated.

My stars, isn't it exciting that in our lifetime we're going to find out whether a past president has the right for secret service protection while in prison! Wow!
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Yep, still waiting for the economic results to support your claim for all I see are opinions that don't matter. Opinions don't pay the bills or win debates so you are on the short end of both. Prove me wrong, post the Trump results to support your claims?
 
EnigmaO01 said:
No whining here. I'm looking forward to hearing yours when Trump gets that orange jumpsuit to match his skin color.

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More of an opinion backed by nothing other than hatred based upon what you want to believe. Post the results or admit you are wrong. Opinions don't pay the bills or win debates.
 
poweRob said:
Is attempting a crime illegal or just a successful crime?? Yes or no??
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That crime of hacking into the DNC computers has been and is being prosecuted, still waiting for an explanation as to why it didn't change your vote? Were the emails released a lie? What Crime did Trump commit?
 
trixare4kids said:
I'll answer.
I don't defend them anymore now than when Hillary hit the reset button during the Obama admin.
I want to know where the lib's outrage was hidden when the Obama admin. attempted to reset with Putin, a foreign enemy?
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Thank you for your response, trix. My outrage isn't archived in this forum because I wasn't a member then, but everyone who knew me then knows that I objected loudly. So let's get back to the subject if we can. You were pissed about Obama's Russia policy. So was I. What is your official, public position on the current administration's Russia policy? Mine is crystal clear.
 
Conservative said:
That crime of hacking into the DNC computers has been and is being prosecuted, still waiting for an explanation as to why it didn't change your vote? Were the emails released a lie? What Crime did Trump commit?
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It didn't change my vote because I'm not stupid enough to be duped into voting for trump. And yourself?
 
Conservative said:
Yep, still waiting for the economic results to support your claim for all I see are opinions that don't matter. Opinions don't pay the bills or win debates so you are on the short end of both. Prove me wrong, post the Trump results to support your claims?
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One of Trump's results is lowest approval rating in history for a president for over a year into his presidency. Another is first to communicate his most insecure, paranoid, and outright dishonest thoughts directly to the world several times a day. Most lies told in his first couple of years than any president throughout their whole tenure as president! First president to commit treason in full view to the world in real time. The hits keep coming.

Come to the side of the good and light, my defeated friend.
 
trixare4kids said:
The responsibility of all presidents is to unite the country whether they want to or not...
One thing I hated about Obama was his inability to unite us, hence the reason he was tagged the divider in chief.
Trump must swallow his pride and not be a repeat of Obama.
He does have legitimate complaints, but he must make it clear that he puts America first and always has.

JMHO.
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Obama was tagged "the divider in chief" by those who could not bring themselves to believe that a black man was the POTUS. Feel free to tell me otherwise, Obama is not the one who divided us. You were not ready for a black president. All there is to it.
So now, by default, you think we are ready for this clown. We are not. DJT is the most unqualified. most compromised, most illiterate POTUS in my life.
If you believe he really puts America First, go buy a Trump Tie and tell me where it comes from. "Walks the talk", isn't that how it goes? Does he? Does his family? Check out Kushner's business dealings and you find some nasty stuff.
I see them as more of a " gonna get as much as I can from it" kind of strategy. If you can show a different side, please, feel free.
 
MateoMtnClimber said:
Thank you for your response, trix. My outrage isn't archived in this forum because I wasn't a member then, but everyone who knew me then knows that I objected loudly. So let's get back to the subject if we can. You were pissed about Obama's Russia policy. So was I. What is your official, public position on the current administration's Russia policy? Mine is crystal clear.
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What's your position on President Trump's policy of being tougher on Russia than Obama?
 
Conservative said:
None viable, only two viable candidates and I chose wisely, you didn't and now you continue to whine about it
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Irrelevant. The fact that they were not viable can't allow you to assume someone voted for Clinton. Many people could not stomach either candidate and voted for someone else even though they knew they couldn't win.

And btw what the **** do you care who I voted for? It's none of your ** business.
 
trixare4kids said:
Address what Rosenstein concluded about the 12 Russians who meddled in our elections. I am not interested in replying to your strawman.
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Don't be so obtuse, I did address it....

trixare4kids said:
How come Rosenstein said this then?

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein announced federal grand jury indictments of 12 Russian intelligence officers for conspiring to interfere in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.
Rosenstein was clear when he said the investigation showed that "there no allegation in this indictment that Americans knew they were corresponding with Russian intelligence officers." He also was sure to to note that "there is no evidence the alleged hacking had any impact on the election results."
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Moot said:
There's no evidence because they're not investigating election results or public opinion. Elections are usually under State control and would be investigated at that level. IE: FBI notifies Maryland that their voting machines are owned by a Russian investor close to Putin. Since elections are controlled by the States, it falls to Maryland to protect and investigate their own state's voting machines, voter tallies, recounts, etc.
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Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
 
Conservative said:
then post the economic results of Trump to prove your point?? Clinton was a failure as an attorney but she sold you a bill of goods with rhetoric which is why the Russian rhetoric is such a concern to you. Rhetoric always trumps results in your world. Waiting for the economic results which I know will never come from YOU
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The issue isn't economic results, which is off-topic in this thread but it's understandable that you want to change the subject. Even if somehow Trump is responsible for grand economic gains, which he isn't, it doesn't change the issue.

The issue at hand is that we have a leader who claims to put America first but won't even acknowledge that Russia meddled in the 2016 election and further is doing Russia's bidding by backing Russia's dictator against his own country. That's treasonous behavior that Hillary Clinton would never have ever done.
 
trixare4kids said:
I have to call it like I see it but I truly believe those liberals who protested the Obama administration's
policies are in the minority. Something like 60% went along with his :bs

And yes, it does matter because it points out the hypocrisy and complicity of the majority who went along with Obama's Russian reset.
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I sincerely can't identify what point you're trying to make. How do you apply the terms you used, e.g., hypocrisy and complicity, to the very small minority of conservatives' responses to 45's disaster today? What is your opinion of it? I don't want to talk about Obama anymore. I'm asking for a direct answer to a direct question.
 
Conservative said:
Only American socialist radicals filled with hatred and diverting from the results being generated.
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Dude so Trump really upset you today didn't he? Admit it. He let you down.

You know deep down this is the beginning of the end for him.

Take deep breaths. Use a paper bag if you need to.
 
Erod said:
Back at you.

You can't dismiss piles of evidence against the Democrats for "meddling" with the election, not to mention they knew during the primaries what the Russians were doing, and then pitch a fit now.

Guess what? The Russians have been doing this for a long time. So has the United States.

Selective outrage. It didn't change the result of anything, and it doesn't prove collusion. If there was collusion, we would have long seen the evidence by now.
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But never has an American president supported them in their interference, used the information from their interference, met with them, lied about meeting with them, fired the leader of the investigation into their interference, contradicted the intelligence community's assessment, and attempted to undermine the investigation, with the help of his party.

All of this is new.
 
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dave8383 said:
What warnings?
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I was warned by moderators not to insult idiots. I therefore consider idiots to be patriotic Americans. It is the least I can do to exercise my free speech privileges on a forum that tolerates ignorance, stupidity, complicity and apparently treason yet aggressively warns those of us who call this out. In other words, we are living through the mid-1930s Germany, to resist is to be excoriated because unless you tolerate evil, you are yourself evil. That is the banality of evil my friends.
 
The Left is in full meltdown...lol
 
MTAtech said:
The issue isn't economic results, which is off-topic in this thread but it's understandable that you want to change the subject. Even if somehow Trump is responsible for grand economic gains, which he isn't, it doesn't change the issue.

The issue at hand is that we have a leader who claims to put America first but won't even acknowledge that Russia meddled in the 2016 election and further is doing Russia's bidding by backing Russia's dictator against his own country. That's treasonous behavior that Hillary Clinton would never have ever done.
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I am not changing the subject, yours is all opinions based upon what you want to believe and mine is based upon the reality that rhetoric doesn't matter results do. now prove me wrong?? There hasn't been a thread since the election where you have offered any support for Trump as you continue with your bashing. I am still waiting for actual results and data to support your claims but those never come.

Russian meddling that didn't change your vote?? Why?? If the meddling was so bad why didn't you vote for Trump? You have a serious problem with rhetoric, I don't because I learned to verify rhetoric a long time ago. What exactly did the Russians release that was wrong? Were the emails a lie? You wanted Hillary in the WH for what reason, her results?? What were they? I voted for results not rhetoric and that gives me more credibility than you will ever have. Opinions don't win debates or pay the bills, results do.
 
Conservative said:
then post the economic results of Trump to prove your point?? Clinton was a failure as an attorney but she sold you a bill of goods with rhetoric which is why the Russian rhetoric is such a concern to you. Rhetoric always trumps results in your world. Waiting for the economic results which I know will never come from YOU
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There you go again making sheet up again.
 
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