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From the San Francisco Chronicle:

Top California Democratic Party officials jolted four-term incumbent Sen. Dianne Feinstein with a vote to endorse her November election opponent, fellow Democrat state Sen. Kevin de León.

De León won 65 percent of the 333 ballots cast by members of the party’s executive board at an Oakland hotel Saturday, while 28 percent preferred “no endorsement,” which Feinstein requested last week. Feinstein won only 7 percent of the vote. The threshold for winning an endorsement was 60 percent. https://www.sfchronicle.com/politic...rats-stun-Feinstein-by-endorsing-13076085.php

Democrats need fresh leadership, not more of the "Meet the new boss; same as the old boss."

Here's what Kevin de León told Politico:

His fight, he said, was not about “a gender issue ... it’s not an age issue.’’ Pointing to progressive icons Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, de León said, “it’s about the right values.”

The weekend’s nail-biter over the party’s Senate general election endorsement underscored the depths of the bitter divisions still lingering from the 2016 battles between more progressive backers of Sanders’ presidential bid and the more centrist faction of Hillary Clinton supporters in the nation’s most populous state.

Although the endorsement involved just a small circle of the most activist voters — a 313-member executive committee in a party that represents 7.4 million voters — many Democratic insiders said it carried potentially dangerous implications for the party beyond the state’s borders. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/15/feinstein-gets-progressive-smackdown-722204

Democrats have to stand for something, not just be knee-jerk against Trump. Maybe the executive committee's endorsement of
de León should be a heads-up nationwide.​
 
nota bene said:
From the San Francisco Chronicle:

Top California Democratic Party officials jolted four-term incumbent Sen. Dianne Feinstein with a vote to endorse her November election opponent, fellow Democrat state Sen. Kevin de León.

De León won 65 percent of the 333 ballots cast by members of the party’s executive board at an Oakland hotel Saturday, while 28 percent preferred “no endorsement,” which Feinstein requested last week. Feinstein won only 7 percent of the vote. The threshold for winning an endorsement was 60 percent. https://www.sfchronicle.com/politic...rats-stun-Feinstein-by-endorsing-13076085.php

Democrats need fresh leadership, not more of the "Meet the new boss; same as the old boss."

Here's what Kevin de León told Politico:

His fight, he said, was not about “a gender issue ... it’s not an age issue.’’ Pointing to progressive icons Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, de León said, “it’s about the right values.”

The weekend’s nail-biter over the party’s Senate general election endorsement underscored the depths of the bitter divisions still lingering from the 2016 battles between more progressive backers of Sanders’ presidential bid and the more centrist faction of Hillary Clinton supporters in the nation’s most populous state.

Although the endorsement involved just a small circle of the most activist voters — a 313-member executive committee in a party that represents 7.4 million voters — many Democratic insiders said it carried potentially dangerous implications for the party beyond the state’s borders. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/15/feinstein-gets-progressive-smackdown-722204

Democrats have to stand for something, not just be knee-jerk against Trump. Maybe the executive committee's endorsement of
de León should be a heads-up nationwide.​
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I know precious little of de Leon but, Feinstein is plain awful. If I were a Californian; I would almost go vote for de Leon as a protest against Feinstein.
 
Good. Feinstein should step aside for younger candidates with fresh ideas.
 
nota bene said:
From the San Francisco Chronicle:

Top California Democratic Party officials jolted four-term incumbent Sen. Dianne Feinstein with a vote to endorse her November election opponent, fellow Democrat state Sen. Kevin de León.

De León won 65 percent of the 333 ballots cast by members of the party’s executive board at an Oakland hotel Saturday, while 28 percent preferred “no endorsement,” which Feinstein requested last week. Feinstein won only 7 percent of the vote. The threshold for winning an endorsement was 60 percent. https://www.sfchronicle.com/politic...rats-stun-Feinstein-by-endorsing-13076085.php

Democrats need fresh leadership, not more of the "Meet the new boss; same as the old boss."

Here's what Kevin de León told Politico:

His fight, he said, was not about “a gender issue ... it’s not an age issue.’’ Pointing to progressive icons Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, de León said, “it’s about the right values.”

The weekend’s nail-biter over the party’s Senate general election endorsement underscored the depths of the bitter divisions still lingering from the 2016 battles between more progressive backers of Sanders’ presidential bid and the more centrist faction of Hillary Clinton supporters in the nation’s most populous state.

Although the endorsement involved just a small circle of the most activist voters — a 313-member executive committee in a party that represents 7.4 million voters — many Democratic insiders said it carried potentially dangerous implications for the party beyond the state’s borders. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/15/feinstein-gets-progressive-smackdown-722204

Democrats have to stand for something, not just be knee-jerk against Trump. Maybe the executive committee's endorsement of
de León should be a heads-up nationwide.​
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The Dems are fired up for Nov, I expect a huuuge turnout.
 
nota bene said:
From the San Francisco Chronicle:

Top California Democratic Party officials jolted four-term incumbent Sen. Dianne Feinstein with a vote to endorse her November election opponent, fellow Democrat state Sen. Kevin de León.

De León won 65 percent of the 333 ballots cast by members of the party’s executive board at an Oakland hotel Saturday, while 28 percent preferred “no endorsement,” which Feinstein requested last week. Feinstein won only 7 percent of the vote. The threshold for winning an endorsement was 60 percent. https://www.sfchronicle.com/politic...rats-stun-Feinstein-by-endorsing-13076085.php

Democrats need fresh leadership, not more of the "Meet the new boss; same as the old boss."

Here's what Kevin de León told Politico:

His fight, he said, was not about “a gender issue ... it’s not an age issue.’’ Pointing to progressive icons Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, de León said, “it’s about the right values.”

The weekend’s nail-biter over the party’s Senate general election endorsement underscored the depths of the bitter divisions still lingering from the 2016 battles between more progressive backers of Sanders’ presidential bid and the more centrist faction of Hillary Clinton supporters in the nation’s most populous state.

Although the endorsement involved just a small circle of the most activist voters — a 313-member executive committee in a party that represents 7.4 million voters — many Democratic insiders said it carried potentially dangerous implications for the party beyond the state’s borders. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/15/feinstein-gets-progressive-smackdown-722204

Democrats have to stand for something, not just be knee-jerk against Trump. Maybe the executive committee's endorsement of
de León should be a heads-up nationwide.​
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Maybe the GOP should take a page out of that book
 
Speaking of the GOP, I see they did not even receive enough primary votes to field a candidate in the California US Senate General Election. :lol:

Meanwhile in Texas, Ted is fighting for his political life. :lamo
 
The DNC's seemingly more mainstream movement to the far left greatly worries me.
 
nota bene said:
From the San Francisco Chronicle:

Top California Democratic Party officials jolted four-term incumbent Sen. Dianne Feinstein with a vote to endorse her November election opponent, fellow Democrat state Sen. Kevin de León.

De León won 65 percent of the 333 ballots cast by members of the party’s executive board at an Oakland hotel Saturday, while 28 percent preferred “no endorsement,” which Feinstein requested last week. Feinstein won only 7 percent of the vote. The threshold for winning an endorsement was 60 percent. https://www.sfchronicle.com/politic...rats-stun-Feinstein-by-endorsing-13076085.php

Democrats need fresh leadership, not more of the "Meet the new boss; same as the old boss."

Here's what Kevin de León told Politico:

His fight, he said, was not about “a gender issue ... it’s not an age issue.’’ Pointing to progressive icons Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, de León said, “it’s about the right values.”

The weekend’s nail-biter over the party’s Senate general election endorsement underscored the depths of the bitter divisions still lingering from the 2016 battles between more progressive backers of Sanders’ presidential bid and the more centrist faction of Hillary Clinton supporters in the nation’s most populous state.

Although the endorsement involved just a small circle of the most activist voters — a 313-member executive committee in a party that represents 7.4 million voters — many Democratic insiders said it carried potentially dangerous implications for the party beyond the state’s borders. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/15/feinstein-gets-progressive-smackdown-722204

Democrats have to stand for something, not just be knee-jerk against Trump. Maybe the executive committee's endorsement of
de León should be a heads-up nationwide.​
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EGGS ACKLEY, been saying this all along. The Democratic Party needs a REBOOT. The same elitist, corrupt and arrogant nonsense that lost us three elections in a row aren't good enough anymore, and if Feinstein is the same one trick pony she's always been, then she has to go.
And Chumpy Chuck and Nimrod Nancy should be put on notice...they're next.
 
my biggest issue with Dems is their seemingly hard on to grab guns

I'm VERY pro 2nd A

Dems need to figure out that gun grabbing is NOT gonna solve gun crime, period

If the Dems would just, "step away from the 2nd A" I could get on board with them much more easily ...........
 
calamity said:
Maybe the GOP should take a page out of that book
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calamity said:
Speaking of the GOP, I see they did not even receive enough primary votes to field a candidate in the California US Senate General Election. :lol:

Meanwhile in Texas, Ted is fighting for his political life. :lamo
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No one was speaking of the GOP, but you. Focus.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
EGGS ACKLEY, been saying this all along. The Democratic Party needs a REBOOT. The same elitist, corrupt and arrogant nonsense that lost us three elections in a row aren't good enough anymore, and if Feinstein is the same one trick pony she's always been, then she has to go.
And Chumpy Chuck and Nimrod Nancy should be put on notice...they're next.
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That's just what I meant, only you said it better. The Dems need a reboot.
 
nota bene said:
From the San Francisco Chronicle:

Top California Democratic Party officials jolted four-term incumbent Sen. Dianne Feinstein with a vote to endorse her November election opponent, fellow Democrat state Sen. Kevin de León.

De León won 65 percent of the 333 ballots cast by members of the party’s executive board at an Oakland hotel Saturday, while 28 percent preferred “no endorsement,” which Feinstein requested last week. Feinstein won only 7 percent of the vote. The threshold for winning an endorsement was 60 percent. https://www.sfchronicle.com/politic...rats-stun-Feinstein-by-endorsing-13076085.php

Democrats need fresh leadership, not more of the "Meet the new boss; same as the old boss."

Here's what Kevin de León told Politico:

His fight, he said, was not about “a gender issue ... it’s not an age issue.’’ Pointing to progressive icons Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, de León said, “it’s about the right values.”

The weekend’s nail-biter over the party’s Senate general election endorsement underscored the depths of the bitter divisions still lingering from the 2016 battles between more progressive backers of Sanders’ presidential bid and the more centrist faction of Hillary Clinton supporters in the nation’s most populous state.

Although the endorsement involved just a small circle of the most activist voters — a 313-member executive committee in a party that represents 7.4 million voters — many Democratic insiders said it carried potentially dangerous implications for the party beyond the state’s borders. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/15/feinstein-gets-progressive-smackdown-722204

Democrats have to stand for something, not just be knee-jerk against Trump. Maybe the executive committee's endorsement of
de León should be a heads-up nationwide.​
Click to expand...

So they have decided to go further to the left. Go figure. Diane Feinstein, though I think it is time for her to retire, is not the problem.
The party needs to go toward the center to be considered viable once again.
 
nota bene said:
From the San Francisco Chronicle:

Top California Democratic Party officials jolted four-term incumbent Sen. Dianne Feinstein with a vote to endorse her November election opponent, fellow Democrat state Sen. Kevin de León.

De León won 65 percent of the 333 ballots cast by members of the party’s executive board at an Oakland hotel Saturday, while 28 percent preferred “no endorsement,” which Feinstein requested last week. Feinstein won only 7 percent of the vote. The threshold for winning an endorsement was 60 percent. https://www.sfchronicle.com/politic...rats-stun-Feinstein-by-endorsing-13076085.php

Democrats need fresh leadership, not more of the "Meet the new boss; same as the old boss."

Here's what Kevin de León told Politico:

His fight, he said, was not about “a gender issue ... it’s not an age issue.’’ Pointing to progressive icons Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, de León said, “it’s about the right values.”

The weekend’s nail-biter over the party’s Senate general election endorsement underscored the depths of the bitter divisions still lingering from the 2016 battles between more progressive backers of Sanders’ presidential bid and the more centrist faction of Hillary Clinton supporters in the nation’s most populous state.

Although the endorsement involved just a small circle of the most activist voters — a 313-member executive committee in a party that represents 7.4 million voters — many Democratic insiders said it carried potentially dangerous implications for the party beyond the state’s borders. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/15/feinstein-gets-progressive-smackdown-722204

Democrats have to stand for something, not just be knee-jerk against Trump. Maybe the executive committee's endorsement of
de León should be a heads-up nationwide.​
Click to expand...

I was happy to see that. I voted for De Leon myself.
 
trixare4kids said:
So they have decided to go further to the left. Go figure. Diane Feinstein, though I think it is time for her to retire, is not the problem.
The party needs to go toward the center to be considered viable once again.
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I am not expecting you to find anything good in a Democratic Party reboot, so if you're not happy about it, it probably means it's a good idea.
When is the last time you voted for a Democrat, in Congress or the White House?
It's an honest question.
 
cuban smokes said:
my biggest issue with Dems is their seemingly hard on to grab guns

I'm VERY pro 2nd A

Dems need to figure out that gun grabbing is NOT gonna solve gun crime, period

If the Dems would just, "step away from the 2nd A" I could get on board with them much more easily ...........
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Believe it or not I think California is actually going to go slightly more to the center on guns.
Their castle doctrine is as strong as any pro-gun state with one exception, shopkeepers and business owners however in California Criminal Jury Instructions (CALCRIM) one sees specific reference to an overall trend to grant a relatively generous stance in favor of self defense when anyone feels that their life or safety is in imminent danger.

B. JUSTIFICATIONS AND EXCUSES
505.Justifiable Homicide: Self-Defense or Defense of Another
The defendant is not guilty of (murder/ [or] manslaughter/ attempted murder/ [or] attempted voluntary manslaughter) if (he/she) was justified in (killing/attempting to kill) someone in (self-defense/ [or] defense of another). The defendant acted in lawful (self-defense/ [or] defense of another) if:

1. The defendant reasonably believed that (he/she/ [or] someone else/[or] <insert name or description of third party>)was in imminent danger of being killed or suffering great bodily injury [or was in imminent danger of being(raped/maimed/robbed/ <insert other forcible and atrocious crime>)];

2. The defendant reasonably believed that the immediate use of deadly force was necessary to defend against that danger;AND

3. The defendant used no more force than was reasonably necessary to defend against that danger. Belief in future harm is not sufficient, no matter how great or how likely the harm is believed to be. The defendant must have believed there was imminent danger of death or great bodily injury to (himself/herself/ [or] someone else). Defendant’s belief must have been reasonable and (he/she) must have acted only because of that belief.
The defendant is only entitled to use that amount of force that a reasonable person would believe is necessary in the same situation. If the defendant used more force than was reasonable, the [attempted] killing was not justified. When deciding whether the defendant’s beliefs were reasonable, consider all the circumstances as they were known to and appeared to the defendant and consider what a reasonable person in a similar situation with similar knowledge would have believed. If the defendant’s beliefs were reasonable, the danger does not need to have actually existed.​
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Checkerboard Strangler said:
I am not expecting you to find anything good in a Democratic Party reboot, so if you're not happy about it, it probably means it's a good idea.
When is the last time you voted for a Democrat, in Congress or the White House?
It's an honest question.
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I was a card carrying Democrat a lot longer than you'd ever imagine, but I'll leave you to your fantasies now. The last Democrat I voted for was Al Gore.
I meant what I said above in my post.
 
This DeLeon guy is a beauty, he makes Feinstein look like a card carrying Tea Party veteran I hope he wins &
the rest of the states get a birds eye view of how far California has fallen.

California has its first illegal alien in state office, after Senate President pro Tem Kevin de León (D-Los Angeles) appointed Lizbeth Mateo.
Mateo, an attorney, was born in Mexico and came to the U.S. illegally at the age of 14 with her parents, who are also illegal aliens,
according to the Sacramento Bee.

Mateo complained that illegal aliens are not adequately represented in state government, and described her
appointment as a step towards correcting that alleged injustice. De León, who is running for U.S. Senate against
incumbent Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), described Mateo as: “a courageous, determined and intelligent young woman.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/.../undocumented-immigrants-illegal-citizenship.html
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/.../california-senate-undocumented-illegal-appointment...

Mateo, however, seems somewhat confused about which country she prefers.
In a Facebook post in 2016, apparently celebrating her graduation from Santa Clara University School of Law, Mateo declared,
in Spanish: “[E]verything is dedicated to Oaxaca, Mexico!! to that land that I miss so much.”

https://www.breitbart.com/big.../2018/.../california-appoints-illegal-alien-state-office/

And how about DeLeon who made this appointment.
Kevin de León boosted by back-to-back union endorsements in Senate bid against Sen. Dianne Feinstein
State Senator: ‘Half My Family’ Eligible For Deportation Under Trump « CBS Los Angeles
https://onenewsnow.com/politics-govt/2017/02/08/need-fake-ss-card-ca-lawmaker-can-help

During a hearing before a Senate committee, President Pro Tem Kevin De Leon said it's common knowledge that illegal aliens obtain
fraudulent documents to "survive" and find work in California. It sounds like a charge of criminal conspiracy if you openly talk about
knowledge of a crime, says William Gheen of Americans for Legal Immigration PAC, or ALIPAC.
"He's talking about them flagrantly as if he has no fear of law enforcement," Gheen complains,
"and that's what needs to change in America.”

De Leon told the committee that "half of my family would be eligible for deportation" under a Trump executive order, because
they have obtained false documents. He named Social Security cards, drivers' licenses, and immigration "green" cards as examples
of false identification. The lawmaker didn't back up from his stance either. He went on a radio show the following day and named
a Los Angeles location – McArthur Park – where the falsified documents can be purchased.
 
trixare4kids said:
I was a card carrying Democrat a lot longer than you'd ever-
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Oh Jesus, I saw that answer coming a mile away. The most extreme right wing hacks begin nearly every post with "I used to be a Democrat" as if that's true (it isn't) or that the claim gives them some credentials (it doesn't).
 
Winston said:
I know precious little of de Leon but, Feinstein is plain awful. If I were a Californian; I would almost go vote for de Leon as a protest against Feinstein.
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I lot of progressives are against Feinstein because she is "not quite there" on on Medicare for all.
 
trixare4kids said:
I was a card carrying Democrat a lot longer than you'd ever imagine, but I'll leave you to your fantasies now. The last Democrat I voted for was Al Gore.
I meant what I said above in my post.
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I haven't voted Dem, nor Rep for POTUS in nearly three decades ................
 
nota bene said:
From the San Francisco Chronicle:

Top California Democratic Party officials jolted four-term incumbent Sen. Dianne Feinstein with a vote to endorse her November election opponent, fellow Democrat state Sen. Kevin de León.

De León won 65 percent of the 333 ballots cast by members of the party’s executive board at an Oakland hotel Saturday, while 28 percent preferred “no endorsement,” which Feinstein requested last week. Feinstein won only 7 percent of the vote. The threshold for winning an endorsement was 60 percent. https://www.sfchronicle.com/politic...rats-stun-Feinstein-by-endorsing-13076085.php

Democrats need fresh leadership, not more of the "Meet the new boss; same as the old boss."

Here's what Kevin de León told Politico:

His fight, he said, was not about “a gender issue ... it’s not an age issue.’’ Pointing to progressive icons Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, de León said, “it’s about the right values.”

The weekend’s nail-biter over the party’s Senate general election endorsement underscored the depths of the bitter divisions still lingering from the 2016 battles between more progressive backers of Sanders’ presidential bid and the more centrist faction of Hillary Clinton supporters in the nation’s most populous state.

Although the endorsement involved just a small circle of the most activist voters — a 313-member executive committee in a party that represents 7.4 million voters — many Democratic insiders said it carried potentially dangerous implications for the party beyond the state’s borders. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/15/feinstein-gets-progressive-smackdown-722204

Democrats have to stand for something, not just be knee-jerk against Trump. Maybe the executive committee's endorsement of
de León should be a heads-up nationwide.​
Click to expand...

I agree 100%.
 
Winston said:
I know precious little of de Leon but, Feinstein is plain awful. If I were a Californian; I would almost go vote for de Leon as a protest against Feinstein.
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I know I'm going to end up looking stupid for asking this, but what's the point of this anyway? Feinstein won the primary.
 
Cardinal said:
Oh Jesus, I saw that answer coming a mile away. The most extreme right wing hacks begin nearly every post with "I used to be a Democrat" as if that's true (it isn't) or that the claim gives them some credentials (it doesn't).
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I don't care what you believe. I told the God's truth. I never voted for a Republican until 2004. I am not an extreme right wing hack either... Far from it.
Makes no difference at all to me what you think of me. IMO, the Democrat Party's biggest mistake was to become the party of blame.
What Killed the Democratic Party?


The Democratic Party lost just about everything in 2016, but so far it has offered only evasive regrets and mild apologies. Instead of acknowledging gross failure and astounding errors, the party’s leaders and campaign professionals wallowed in self-pity and righteous indignation. The true villains, they insisted, were the wily Russians and the odious Donald Trump, who together intruded on the sanctity of American democracy and tampered with the election results. Official investigations are now under way.

While the country awaits the verdict, a new and quite provocative critique has emerged from a group of left-leaning activists: They blame the Democratic Party itself for its epic defeat. Their 34-page “Autopsy: The Democratic Party in Crisis” reads more like a cold-eyed indictment than a postmortem report. It’s an unemotional dissection of why the Democrats failed so miserably, and it warns that the party must change profoundly or else remain a loser.
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