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Trump supporters turn out in London a day after protests

Chomsky said:
I wouldn't call it ignorant. I'd call it near blasphemous! Is there a patriotism equivalent for blasphemy?

Anyway, nationalism is really a culture war, as we can see today. It is not about bringing a nation together. It is not populism, either. It's really dangerous stuff, actually.
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Nationalism can be dangerous. Europe showed the world through two World Wars how they can exploit nationalism into regional/global disaster. But the U.S. showed the world how nationalism can pull people together and go to the rescue. American nationalism has always pushed Americans towards the unified good because it centered around the Constitution, a document that has inspired other national documents throughout the world. When in doubt, we fall back on that document for guidance.

Today's shallow theme of righteous defense against the dastardly left is mostly all based on exaggeration and FOX News sensationalism. It places the lowest denominator in the crowd at the dead center as a spokesperson. It's like going to a mental institution and deciding that the craziest guy in the house has a proper argument to rally behind. People have surrendered their better selves over this trash; and all because they have been trained to be manipulated. Raw, irrational emotion has replaced their reasoning.

Chomsky said:
If the Dems could figure out a way to grab the legit Conservatives, especially the moderates, that ones that want to flee Trump's new Nationalist GOP, they'd clean-up house.

I can say that while I'm often liberal in my external politics, I can relate far better to a principled Conservative than I can relate to a Trumper. So maybe the moderate Conservatives can relate better to the moderate Dems & Liberals?

I always felt the power in this country was from the middle ...
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It is in the middle. Between Trump and Hillary stood the middle who were torn between which they hated the least. It was they (and abstaining Democrats) who decided that Trump was to be given his chance in the White House.

We know it's not all conservatives just from the Primaries:

Trump = 14 million votes.
Rubio = 7 million votes.

And, of course, enough conservatives held to their moral values and denied Roy Moore his fun in the sun. I'm thinking that this nonsense is a phase that conservatives have to weather through because they are too stubborn to acknowledge what they have allowed to happen. The best thing that could happen for conservatives is that Trump is tossed in 2020 and FOX News goes off the air.
 
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MSgt said:
Today's shallow theme of righteous defense against the dastardly left is mostly all based on exaggeration and FOX News sensationalism. It places the lowest denominator in the crowd at the dead center as a spokesperson. It's like going to a mental institution and deciding that the craziest guy in the house has a proper argument to rally behind. People have surrendered their better selves over this trash; and all because they have been trained to be manipulated. Raw, irrational emotion has replaced their reasoning.
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Ya know...while this is probably true...don't know for sure because I don't frequent FOX News...I can say with absolute certainty that CNN does exactly this.
 
Nickyjo said:
Strange. This is a big city with lots of immigrants. But all the people in the pic seem to be white males. Didn't anyone invite Ilse Koch?
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Ya...all white guys.
They all should be locked up for simply being...white guys.
Its a capital crime that white guys want to have their concerns heard too.
I hope that Sadiq character has them all shot for being proud of that ugly white race of theirs.
 
Buzz62 said:
So Antifa must really upset you then eh?
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Our antifa was the day before young and old had a great day out, and no trouble. Even balloons!

When the Tommy Robinson rent-a-mob supports you, you should maybe take a hard look at yourself, but then Trump actually encourages and emboldens them. and their ilk.
 
Buzz62 said:
Ya...all white guys.
They all should be locked up for simply being...white guys.
Its a capital crime that white guys want to have their concerns heard too.
I hope that Sadiq character has them all shot for being proud of that ugly white race of theirs.
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Shot? No guns in Britain. That's a US nazi fantasy Donald fans can only dream of. Socialists first, then the unions, then the gays right? Just like the good old thirties
 
Manc Skipper said:
Our antifa was the day before young and old had a great day out, and no trouble. Even balloons!

When the Tommy Robinson rent-a-mob supports you, you should maybe take a hard look at yourself, but then Trump actually encourages and emboldens them. and their ilk.
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I see.
So Antifa starting violent clashes with peaceful demonstration around the globe is good.
Got it.:lamo
 
Manc Skipper said:
Shot? No guns in Britain. That's a US nazi fantasy Donald fans can only dream of. Socialists first, then the unions, then the gays right? Just like the good old thirties
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What the hell are you talking about? Come on Skippy...try to keep yourself focused here.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
This is what the damn near a civil war is about....what is America going to be going forwards.

I encourage you to wake up.
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I've seen videos of drunk racists at parks that make more sense than some of your posts. Your platitudes are wearing thin with better people. Maybe try doing something more than rehashing Twitter posts?

In other words, the majority disapproves of Donald Trump because the minority that supports him marches alongside skinheads and neo-nazis while expecting the rest of us to pretend they're "good people".


Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.
 
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Hatuey said:
I've seen videos of drunk racists at parks that make more sense than some of your posts. Your platitudes are wearing thin with better people.

Maybe try doing something more than repeating Twitter posts? In other words, the majority disapproves of Donald Trump because the minority that supports him marches alongside skinheads and neo-nazis while expecting the rest of us to pretend they're "good people".


Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.
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Speaking of neo-Nazis, here's a group of neo-Nazis attacking a peaceful protest in Oregon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F86zJkg3qrI
 
Hatuey said:
20+ minute video, any particular bit you'd like me to look at?

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.
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OK, I'll spell it out for you...This video shows antifa, a neo-Nazi group, attacking a peaceful protest.
 
From those pics, no one can say for sure how many turned out. What I find pleasant is that they waited until the day after, so they wouldn't clash with the anti Trump crowd.
Just an observation.
 
cabse5 said:
OK, I'll spell it out for you...This video shows antifa, a neo-Nazi group, attacking a peaceful protest.
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Antifa is now a neo-nazis group.... What? Lol.

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.
 
It's ironic to note that even as Trump chastised, criticized, lambasted Ms May for Brexit choices- that a majority of Brits supported- he is also chiding the White Working Class there that forms his own base at home...
 
"...What I find pleasant is that they waited until the day after, so they wouldn't clash with the anti Trump crowd.
Just an observation."

I appreciate that decorum too- that we are sorely lacking in our own customs and our emissaries.
 
slick said:
They were supposed to have marched yesterday but police in Sadiq Khan’s London have used the Public Order Act to prevent a rally in
support of U.S. President Donald Trump outside the American embassy, despite permitting a large, ill-tempered anti-Trump rally on Friday.
Khan actively encouraged the anti-Trump protests, and was active in the media defending his decision to authorise an “obscene”
balloon caricaturing the U.S. President on ground of freedom of speech and the right to protest.

Muslim totalitarian khan imposing his own sharia. Oh and that knife sticking out of your back.?.. no worries luv. ..
you'll get used to it.... Compulsory burkas coming soon !
These are just some of the many Joys of Multiculturalism !

In the Khan approved march there was a Michael Avenatti sighting
Stormy's lawyer led the women’s march in London today.
There's something really wrong about this guy. Is Daniels his only client?
This slimeball sure does get around!

Stormy wanted to join him but probably thought better of it. After all it's hard to imagine
even Stormy would dare pole dance in one of those Muslim no-go zones!

vidolamerica.org/.../free-speech-is-dead-police-in-khans-london-ban-pro-trump-rally-...


Since London has become Londonistan
all this seems to mean is that the Muslims aren't fond of Trump.

There are over 1,000,000 Muslims residing in London & the 10 top male baby names of the born in London are:

Top 10 boy’s names in London in order:

Muhammad
Oliver
Alexander
Daniel
Joshua
James
Adam
George
Jack
Mohammed

I guess different Muslims from different counties spell Mohammed differently as the name comes up twice
Muslims don't like Trump & they gather to show that, who expected anything else.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-a2871406.html
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Ah yes, someone who has a soft spot for a founding father of the Klan whining about multiculturalism. What a surprise......not. :roll:

London has been a multi-cultural city for decades due to the British Empire. People flocked there from all over the world. And despite the fevered fantasies of Trump supporters, London has had a long history with terrorism......you almost might say the risk of terrorism is just part of living in one of the major cities in the world.
 
exoplanet said:
They're flying US Flags?! They shouldn't do that in the United Kingdom! Are they UK citizens? If they were Britons they wouldn't carry those flags. Someone should check their papers!

Seriously though, that's cute. Everyone gets a trophy these days. Even the xenophobes.
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Some might consider US flags "anti-UK hate symbols" because you know...the revolutionary war.

;)
 
Hatuey said:
Antifa is now a neo-nazis group.... What? Lol.

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.
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A new Nazi group.

On the other side of the political spectrum as the original Nazis but just as authoritarian as the originals or other neo-Nazi groups.

Haven't you noticed the neocons who don't really have that much in common with original conservatives? About the only thing the two have in common is being right-winged politically.
 
from my experience, people in England think that Trump and his supporters are fools. pretty much every extended conversation i had when i was there ended with "so, the Trump thing. WTF?"
 
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