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Senate takes swipe at Trump with pro-NATO vote

You are letting your personal opinion and dislike for Trump distort his record and actual results trying like hell to promote a coup based upon rhetoric. Rather sad that we have someone who claims to be a military person generate such treasonous allegations based upon nothing but personal opinions. As I have stated many times I served, my dad served at Pearl Harbor, my father in law in Normandy all giving you the right to make outrageous claims and promoting the overthrow of a President because of your perception of rhetoric. The U.S. is stronger today than it was when Trump took office but reality escapes you. Interesting that hiding behind a computer screen makes your very brazen


You are challenging the military science courses and program of curriculum at the academies of the United States. You don't know the curriculum or the courses, nor can you accept them on being informed of them. I am presenting what I learned and was taught in university Rotc courses. Every officer candidate is taught this in the United States, whether he's called a cadet or literally an officer candidate as in OCS. What you call my opinion is in fact curriculum and it has been so since the founding of the academies. It is the philosophy of the Founders initiated and guided through the writing of the Constitution by George Washington. It is your problem intellectually, culturally, politically that you cannot accept the facts and reality. Frankly speaking, it is a shortcoming of the radical right and of EP who, admittedly, are not informed of the officer oath nor advised of anything about it. Which leaves us safely to say EP are avowed to obey the orders of the officers appointed over them. It is called military discipline, chain of command and fidelity to the oath each of us takes regardless of whether it is the officer oath or the EP oath. So it is past time now for you to lock your heels troop because you aren't the only one whose progenitors fought in our nations wars.
 
You are challenging the military science courses and program of curriculum at the academies of the United States. You don't know the curriculum or the courses, nor can you accept them on being informed of them. I am presenting what I learned and was taught in university Rotc courses. Every officer candidate is taught this in the United States, whether he's called a cadet or literally an officer candidate as in OCS. What you call my opinion is in fact curriculum and it has been so since the founding of the academies. It is the philosophy of the Founders initiated and guided through the writing of the Constitution by George Washington. It is your problem intellectually, culturally, politically that you cannot accept the facts and reality. Frankly speaking, it is a shortcoming of the radical right and of EP who, admittedly, are not informed of the officer oath nor advised of anything about it. Which leaves us safely to say EP are avowed to obey the orders of the officers appointed over them. It is called military discipline, chain of command and fidelity to the oath each of us takes regardless of whether it is the officer oath or the EP oath. So it is past time now for you to lock your heels troop because you aren't the only one whose progenitors fought in our nations wars.

No, I am challenging you and your treasonous comments and post all because of your perception based upon rhetoric. You are full of nothing but hatred and lack of basic logic and common sense. You want to get rid of Trump then you better come up with something other than your opinions on rhetoric. Results matter so tell me exactly what Trump has done to hurt this country and provide specific results?
 
Obstruction of justice is a crime with plenty of evidence. So you know, not a traitor. That's unlikely to happen, it would require house and senate, not unconstitutional at all. Is it?
Trump on the other hand, selling us out to Putin behind closed doors, rigging our election, and then show-mancing him on stage...that looked traitorous to me.

in order for there to be obstruction of justice there has to be a crime and there is no proof that Trump committed any crime. Your personal opinion is full of nothing but hatred based upon rhetoric, not substance or actual results. It really is a shame how rhetoric shapes your opinion and how results are ignored. I would suggest a civics class for you to better understand what Trump can and cannot do. right now you are basing your entire argument on false information and against basic civics
 
in order for there to be obstruction of justice there has to be a crime and there is no proof that Trump committed any crime. Your personal opinion is full of nothing but hatred based upon rhetoric, not substance or actual results. It really is a shame how rhetoric shapes your opinion and how results are ignored. I would suggest a civics class for you to better understand what Trump can and cannot do. right now you are basing your entire argument on false information and against basic civics

They bandy obstruction of justice and traitor like a badminton birdie.
 
Obstruction of justice is a crime with plenty of evidence. So you know, not a traitor. That's unlikely to happen, it would require house and senate, not unconstitutional at all. Is it?
Trump on the other hand, selling us out to Putin behind closed doors, rigging our election, and then show-mancing him on stage...that looked traitorous to me.

You bandy obstruction of justice and traitor like a badminton birdie.
This…
 
They bandy obstruction of justice and traitor like a badminton birdie.

They hate what Trump stands for and any promotion of America first. They cannot and will not discuss the actual results so they focus on rhetoric, notice the silence when asked for results?
 
They hate what Trump stands for and any promotion of America first. They cannot and will not discuss the actual results so they focus on rhetoric, notice the silence when asked for results?

Keeps the 'story' alive for them. The story being an illegitimate 2016 election.
 
No, I am challenging you and your treasonous comments and post all because of your perception based upon rhetoric. You are full of nothing but hatred and lack of basic logic and common sense. You want to get rid of Trump then you better come up with something other than your opinions on rhetoric. Results matter so tell me exactly what Trump has done to hurt this country and provide specific results?


Live and learn Mr. Conservative Right Winger who is of limited resources save for the issuing of demands, absolutism and rage....


The Oath of Military Office - United States of America


image-04301789-gwashington-nara-m.jpg



“Let us raise a standard to which the wise and honest can repair. The event is in the hand of God.”
--- George Washington opening the Constitutional Convention, Philadelphia, 1788.




MARINES
The Official Website of the United States Marine Corps


Why are the two oaths different [officer and enlisted] and what does it mean that officers do not swear obedience to the president or higher ranking officers? This concept traces back to the intentions of the Founding Fathers who created our governing system with a separation of powers and series of checks and balances between the three branches. This ensures no single branch or person gains too much power and becomes corrupted. By swearing allegiance to a set of ideals and laws, our military is not bound by the orders of a single person, but are dedicated to the defense of the people and their way of life.

https://www.quantico.marines.mil/Ne...ce-between-oath-of-office-oath-of-enlistment/





The Military Oath of Office

The oath requires military officers to support and defend the Constitution - not the president, not the country, not the flag, and not a particular military service.

Because the Constitution was built on a series of checks and balances that distribute power across the executive, legislative, and judicial branches, armed forces officers must give their allegiance to all three entities - despite the fact that the chain of command leads to the President.

George Washington conveys the notion of support in his farewell address: “The basis of our political systems is the right of the people to make and to alter their Constitutions of Government. But the Constitution, which at any time exists, till changed by an explicit and authentic act of the whole people, is sacredly obligatory upon all."

The words support and defend were added in 1862, during the Civil War, when defense and preservation of the nation became paramount. 23 It is a true blessing that America does not require its officers to obey “unquestioningly” but gives them the opportunity and flexibility for innovation.

Against All Enemies, Foreign and Domestic: This phrase was added in 1862 as a direct result of the Civil War - specifically, to address the possibility of Union soldiers joining the Confederacy. That is, people who had previously sworn allegiance to the United States were now fighting against it. Military officers cannot simply maintain the status quo - they must look toward the future, identify emerging trends, and develop capabilities to counter the entire range of threats.

However, the officer’s oath ensures allegiance to the Constitution as a whole, not just the president. Officers pledge allegiance to the nation as a whole. Many of the same themes and ideas apply to the dedicated professionals in our enlisted force and civilian personnel. Remember this, Once given, the Oath is binding for life, unless renounced, refused, and abjured. It does not cease upon the occasions of leaving office or of discharge.

https://thoughts-and-stuff-zwright.blogspot.com/2011/08/oath-of-office-united-states-of-america.html



This is contained in the curriculum of the federal government service academies, all university Rotc programs, the curriculum of the state military academies such as Citadel, VMI, and the privately owned DoD certified military colleges and academies such as Norwich in Vermont. It is standard fare in armed forces officer education, orientation, training and development. Accept it and learn to live with it. Admittedly, officer cadets and candidates learn this routinely and move on in the curriculum. Except for the Civil War, the officer oath and its meaning and significance has been but another chapter of study. However, there are times in the nation's history when the officer oath becomes central and vital to the well being of the nation and its security and stability. The present is exactly such a time. Deal with it because it is institutional, not personal.
 
You seem to be on the leftwing bandwagon of supporting a military takeover of the govt. as again you have no understanding of civics and the Constitution. Trump can do nothing without support of Congress so stop with the leftwing bull****, lies, and distortions


Now Putin is working at trying to get a US four-star general fired, Joe Votel chief of Central Command which includes Syria and ISIS. Putin continues to try to have his way with Trump, this time interjecting himself against US armed forces commanders for the first time. The one thing I do not support is Putin taking over command of the US armed forces....


Russia slams US general, says he 'discredited' Trump

Gen. expressed hesitancy about working with Russia


WASHINGTON (CNN) The Russian Ministry of Defense slammed US Gen. Joseph Votel Tuesday, accusing America's top military commander in the Middle East of discrediting President Donald Trump's position after Votel expressed hesitancy about working with Russia in Syria.

"With his statements, General Votel not only discredited the official position of his supreme commander-in-chief, but also exacerbated the illegality under international law and US law of the military presence of American servicemen in Syria," the Russian Ministry said in a statement published on social media in response to an interview Votel gave to ABC News.

"I would want to make sure that this isn't something that we stepped into lightly," Votel, the commander of US Central Command, said when asked about the idea of the US and Russia working together to facilitate the return of refugees. "I am not recommending that. And that would be a pretty big step at this point," Votel added.

On Friday, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo confirmed that the issue of refugee return had been discussed during last week's meeting between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin but did not say that any agreements had been reached.

Votel told reporters at the Pentagon that he had received no new direction following the Trump-Putin meeting and Trump has also appeared to suggest that while many issues related to the region had been discussed, the implementation of any agreements would not take place until a second meeting between Trump and Putin.

On Tuesday, Secretary of Defense James Mattis also confirmed that the US was not cooperating with Russia in Syria while speaking with Pompeo in Palo Alto, California, alongside their Australian counterparts. "In regard to Syria, what we do with the Russian Federation is we de-conflict our operations, we do not coordinate them," Mattis said. "We will not be doing anything additional until the secretary of state and the President have further figured out at what point we're going to start working alongside our allies with Russia in the future, that has not happened yet and it would be premature for me to go into any more detail at this point because we're not doing any more than this," he added.

The Russian ministry's statement on Votel also criticized the US presence in Syria, saying that "US forces are left with only one option to stay in Syria -- to engage in cooperation with Russia and the country's legal leadership in the process of assisting the return of refugees and temporarily displaced persons to their homes."

On Monday, the House and Senate armed services committees released the final version of their compromise defense bill for 2019 that once again renewed a prohibition on "military-to-military cooperation" with Russia.

https://www.ktvz.com/news/politics/russia-slams-us-general-says-he-discredited-trump/772653166



If Putin thinks he is going to start choosing the US armed forces commanders based on his ability to get 'em fired or shipped out he'd be making the mistake of a lifetime. As we see once again in this news article, the Pentagon and the Congress are in a complete agreement toward Russia and Putin. Nothing the Putin-Trump Fanboyz say or do can drive a wedge between the military and civilian commanders in the Pentagon and the Congress in their unity concerning Russia.
 
Live and learn Mr. Conservative Right Winger who is of limited resources save for the issuing of demands, absolutism and rage....


The Oath of Military Office - United States of America


image-04301789-gwashington-nara-m.jpg



“Let us raise a standard to which the wise and honest can repair. The event is in the hand of God.”
--- George Washington opening the Constitutional Convention, Philadelphia, 1788.




MARINES
The Official Website of the United States Marine Corps


Why are the two oaths different [officer and enlisted] and what does it mean that officers do not swear obedience to the president or higher ranking officers? This concept traces back to the intentions of the Founding Fathers who created our governing system with a separation of powers and series of checks and balances between the three branches. This ensures no single branch or person gains too much power and becomes corrupted. By swearing allegiance to a set of ideals and laws, our military is not bound by the orders of a single person, but are dedicated to the defense of the people and their way of life.

https://www.quantico.marines.mil/Ne...ce-between-oath-of-office-oath-of-enlistment/





The Military Oath of Office

The oath requires military officers to support and defend the Constitution - not the president, not the country, not the flag, and not a particular military service.

Because the Constitution was built on a series of checks and balances that distribute power across the executive, legislative, and judicial branches, armed forces officers must give their allegiance to all three entities - despite the fact that the chain of command leads to the President.

George Washington conveys the notion of support in his farewell address: “The basis of our political systems is the right of the people to make and to alter their Constitutions of Government. But the Constitution, which at any time exists, till changed by an explicit and authentic act of the whole people, is sacredly obligatory upon all."

The words support and defend were added in 1862, during the Civil War, when defense and preservation of the nation became paramount. 23 It is a true blessing that America does not require its officers to obey “unquestioningly” but gives them the opportunity and flexibility for innovation.

Against All Enemies, Foreign and Domestic: This phrase was added in 1862 as a direct result of the Civil War - specifically, to address the possibility of Union soldiers joining the Confederacy. That is, people who had previously sworn allegiance to the United States were now fighting against it. Military officers cannot simply maintain the status quo - they must look toward the future, identify emerging trends, and develop capabilities to counter the entire range of threats.

However, the officer’s oath ensures allegiance to the Constitution as a whole, not just the president. Officers pledge allegiance to the nation as a whole. Many of the same themes and ideas apply to the dedicated professionals in our enlisted force and civilian personnel. Remember this, Once given, the Oath is binding for life, unless renounced, refused, and abjured. It does not cease upon the occasions of leaving office or of discharge.

https://thoughts-and-stuff-zwright.blogspot.com/2011/08/oath-of-office-united-states-of-america.html



This is contained in the curriculum of the federal government service academies, all university Rotc programs, the curriculum of the state military academies such as Citadel, VMI, and the privately owned DoD certified military colleges and academies such as Norwich in Vermont. It is standard fare in armed forces officer education, orientation, training and development. Accept it and learn to live with it. Admittedly, officer cadets and candidates learn this routinely and move on in the curriculum. Except for the Civil War, the officer oath and its meaning and significance has been but another chapter of study. However, there are times in the nation's history when the officer oath becomes central and vital to the well being of the nation and its security and stability. The present is exactly such a time. Deal with it because it is institutional, not personal.

Have no idea what your point is as you have yet to offer any negative RESULTS regarding Trump as Rhetoric never trumps actual results. Can you show me where any other President has taken this oath and violated it? I don't see any violation because rhetoric never trumps actions and results
 
Now Putin is working at trying to get a US four-star general fired, Joe Votel chief of Central Command which includes Syria and ISIS. Putin continues to try to have his way with Trump, this time interjecting himself against US armed forces commanders for the first time. The one thing I do not support is Putin taking over command of the US armed forces....


Russia slams US general, says he 'discredited' Trump

Gen. expressed hesitancy about working with Russia


WASHINGTON (CNN) The Russian Ministry of Defense slammed US Gen. Joseph Votel Tuesday, accusing America's top military commander in the Middle East of discrediting President Donald Trump's position after Votel expressed hesitancy about working with Russia in Syria.

"With his statements, General Votel not only discredited the official position of his supreme commander-in-chief, but also exacerbated the illegality under international law and US law of the military presence of American servicemen in Syria," the Russian Ministry said in a statement published on social media in response to an interview Votel gave to ABC News.

"I would want to make sure that this isn't something that we stepped into lightly," Votel, the commander of US Central Command, said when asked about the idea of the US and Russia working together to facilitate the return of refugees. "I am not recommending that. And that would be a pretty big step at this point," Votel added.

On Friday, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo confirmed that the issue of refugee return had been discussed during last week's meeting between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin but did not say that any agreements had been reached.

Votel told reporters at the Pentagon that he had received no new direction following the Trump-Putin meeting and Trump has also appeared to suggest that while many issues related to the region had been discussed, the implementation of any agreements would not take place until a second meeting between Trump and Putin.

On Tuesday, Secretary of Defense James Mattis also confirmed that the US was not cooperating with Russia in Syria while speaking with Pompeo in Palo Alto, California, alongside their Australian counterparts. "In regard to Syria, what we do with the Russian Federation is we de-conflict our operations, we do not coordinate them," Mattis said. "We will not be doing anything additional until the secretary of state and the President have further figured out at what point we're going to start working alongside our allies with Russia in the future, that has not happened yet and it would be premature for me to go into any more detail at this point because we're not doing any more than this," he added.

The Russian ministry's statement on Votel also criticized the US presence in Syria, saying that "US forces are left with only one option to stay in Syria -- to engage in cooperation with Russia and the country's legal leadership in the process of assisting the return of refugees and temporarily displaced persons to their homes."

On Monday, the House and Senate armed services committees released the final version of their compromise defense bill for 2019 that once again renewed a prohibition on "military-to-military cooperation" with Russia.

https://www.ktvz.com/news/politics/russia-slams-us-general-says-he-discredited-trump/772653166



If Putin thinks he is going to start choosing the US armed forces commanders based on his ability to get 'em fired or shipped out he'd be making the mistake of a lifetime. As we see once again in this news article, the Pentagon and the Congress are in a complete agreement toward Russia and Putin. Nothing the Putin-Trump Fanboyz say or do can drive a wedge between the military and civilian commanders in the Pentagon and the Congress in their unity concerning Russia.

Apparently the concept of freedom of speech doesn't resonate in your world. Why do you care what Russia says or what Trump says vs. what they do? Has the general been fired? you seem to have a problem with rhetoric totally ignoring that people say a lot of things so unless proven what they said leads to actions they are nothing more than words

Are you working? did you get your job because of what you said or because of your background and your resume?
 
As General Votel points out Trump will need to get the agreement of the Congress to proceed with secret Helsinki agreements. The National Defense Authorization Act prohibits the United States from coordinating, synchronizing, collaborating with Russian military forces anywhere, any time, for any reason. Which is exactly correct...





No changes in Syria after Putin-Trump summit: U.S. general


votel.jpg

General Joseph Votel USMA 1980 was formerly commander of US Special Operations Command before becoming chief of US Central Command.


Votel stressed that U.S.-Russian militaries do not coordinate in Syria and their interactions, while professional, were tightly restricted by U.S. law. The remarks appeared to address speculation following the summit that the militaries of the former Cold War foes might be asked to cooperate.

"The National Defense Authorization Act, as a law, prohibits us from coordinating, synchronizing, collaborating, with Russian forces," Votel said.

Asked whether he would able to comply with any requests for some degree of cooperation in Syria, Votel suggested that such a consideration would necessarily involve U.S. lawmakers, who wrote the law restricting U.S.-Russian military interactions.

"Any space would have to be created by Congress or a waiver that they would approve to allow us to do something like that," Votel said. "I have not asked for that at this point, and we'll see what direction comes down."


https://in.news.yahoo.com/no-changes-syria-putin-trump-summit-u-general-153917074.html







Russia 'both arsonist and firefighter' in Syria — U.S. general

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General Joseph Votel commander Central Command is formerly deputy commanding general 82nd Airborne Division and commanded the 75th Ranger Regiment during Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan.

2/17/18

A senior U.S. general accused Russia on Tuesday of playing a destabilizing role in Syria and acting as "both arsonist and firefighter."

"Diplomatically and militarily, Moscow plays both arsonist and firefighter, fueling tensions among all parties in Syria... then serving as an arbitrator, to resolve disputes, attempting to undermine and weaken each party's bargaining positions," said U.S. Army General Joseph Votel.

Votel is the head of the U.S. military's Central Command. He was speaking to a House of Representatives Armed Services Committee hearing. Votel said Russia had failed to rein in its Syrian ally. "I think either Russia has to admit that it is not capable, or it doesn't want to play a role in ending the Syrian conflict. I think their role is incredibly destabilizing at this point."

He added that Moscow was using Syria to test new weapons and military tactics, and it had increased its surface-to-air missiles in the region that threatened the United States' ability to "dominate the airspace." Votel became the latest in a string of senior U.S. defense officials to decline public comment on whether Russian civilian contractors were involved in a Feb. 7 attack on U.S. and U.S.-backed forces in Syria.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...-firefighter-in-syria-—-us-general/ar-BBJFxEk



In Putin-Trump we have an arsonist and a torch.
 
They hate what Trump stands for and any promotion of America first. They cannot and will not discuss the actual results so they focus on rhetoric, notice the silence when asked for results?


Oblivious you are.

Indeed.

Putin-Trump are a wrecking ball tandem who have left a trail of massive destruction in the USA and abroad and you assert cheerfully there are no adverse results of their evil works. You're paddling up denial dude in full throated song.
 
As General Votel points out Trump will need to get the agreement of the Congress to proceed with secret Helsinki agreements. The National Defense Authorization Act prohibits the United States from coordinating, synchronizing, collaborating with Russian military forces anywhere, any time, for any reason. Which is exactly correct...





No changes in Syria after Putin-Trump summit: U.S. general


votel.jpg

General Joseph Votel USMA 1980 was formerly commander of US Special Operations Command before becoming chief of US Central Command.


Votel stressed that U.S.-Russian militaries do not coordinate in Syria and their interactions, while professional, were tightly restricted by U.S. law. The remarks appeared to address speculation following the summit that the militaries of the former Cold War foes might be asked to cooperate.

"The National Defense Authorization Act, as a law, prohibits us from coordinating, synchronizing, collaborating, with Russian forces," Votel said.

Asked whether he would able to comply with any requests for some degree of cooperation in Syria, Votel suggested that such a consideration would necessarily involve U.S. lawmakers, who wrote the law restricting U.S.-Russian military interactions.

"Any space would have to be created by Congress or a waiver that they would approve to allow us to do something like that," Votel said. "I have not asked for that at this point, and we'll see what direction comes down."


https://in.news.yahoo.com/no-changes-syria-putin-trump-summit-u-general-153917074.html







Russia 'both arsonist and firefighter' in Syria — U.S. general

general-joseph-votel-commander-of-us-central-command-gives-a-speech-picture-id597988890

General Joseph Votel commander Central Command is formerly deputy commanding general 82nd Airborne Division and commanded the 75th Ranger Regiment during Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan.

2/17/18

A senior U.S. general accused Russia on Tuesday of playing a destabilizing role in Syria and acting as "both arsonist and firefighter."

"Diplomatically and militarily, Moscow plays both arsonist and firefighter, fueling tensions among all parties in Syria... then serving as an arbitrator, to resolve disputes, attempting to undermine and weaken each party's bargaining positions," said U.S. Army General Joseph Votel.

Votel is the head of the U.S. military's Central Command. He was speaking to a House of Representatives Armed Services Committee hearing. Votel said Russia had failed to rein in its Syrian ally. "I think either Russia has to admit that it is not capable, or it doesn't want to play a role in ending the Syrian conflict. I think their role is incredibly destabilizing at this point."

He added that Moscow was using Syria to test new weapons and military tactics, and it had increased its surface-to-air missiles in the region that threatened the United States' ability to "dominate the airspace." Votel became the latest in a string of senior U.S. defense officials to decline public comment on whether Russian civilian contractors were involved in a Feb. 7 attack on U.S. and U.S.-backed forces in Syria.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...-firefighter-in-syria-—-us-general/ar-BBJFxEk



In Putin-Trump we have an arsonist and a torch.

Quite frankly after 8 years of Obama/Hillary resetting relations with Russia, their Uranium deal, and all the terrorist problems in the world I really have no problem with the Results Trump is generating, results that you have no interest in discussing because to you words matter more than results. The expansion of our military budget, focus on American pro growth economic policies, and enforcing the red line in the sand sends the right message to our enemies including Russia.
 
Oblivious you are.

Indeed.

Putin-Trump are a wrecking ball tandem who have left a trail of massive destruction in the USA and abroad and you assert cheerfully there are no adverse results of their evil works. You're paddling up denial dude in full throated song.

suggest you get internet access in that bomb shelter you are building or believe we need. Interesting how our military still supports Trump in spite of your opinions and rhetoric.
 
Quite frankly after 8 years of Obama/Hillary resetting relations with Russia, their Uranium deal, and all the terrorist problems in the world I really have no problem with the Results Trump is generating, results that you have no interest in discussing because to you words matter more than results. The expansion of our military budget, focus on American pro growth economic policies, and enforcing the red line in the sand sends the right message to our enemies including Russia.


The single greatest result I see of the Putin-Trump presidency supported by The Fanboyz is that now the trains run on time. So do the planes btw.

You'll have to work harder however in getting USA uranium to Putin cause he still hasn't received a granule of it. Nor will he. So like Rick in Casablanca you are misinformed. Worse yet your "red line in the sand" shifts with the tide -- twice daily believe it or not. And yes, terrorism is hell on wheels ain't it but we're holding our own, or so I'd say. Now if we could get Trump to stop rejecting our democratic allies in favor of his dictator heroes we might begin to restore some of our national security that Putin-Trump have been hacking away at with the full support of The Fanboyz.
 
suggest you get internet access in that bomb shelter you are building or believe we need. Interesting how our military still supports Trump in spite of your opinions and rhetoric.

It's true our armed forces commanders across the board have not (yet) arrested Trump for Treason but that is a far cry from them saying they support Trump or openly celebrate Trump the CinC. JCS led by the Army which is in charge of Trump's parade changed the shameless event to Veterans Day from Trump's bouncy 4th of July celebration of Trump and JCS removed the North Korea features of the parade Trump had dancing in his empty head.

Trump during the campaign said he'd "fire the generals" yet Trump hasn't removed a one of 'em. Reality is if Trump fired a general JCS would fire Trump and Trump knows it. Putin just failed miserably trying to get Gen. Votel commanding Central Command in hot water with Trump over Syria and the secret Putin-Trump meeting in Helsinki which came after the Putin-Trump Nato wrecking ball in Brussels. Pentagon considers Nato our number one alliance without which we become exposed to myriad evil forces in the world to include the radically increased likelihood of a war in Europe again -- another one.

The world according to Putin-Trump & Fanboyz.
 
It's true our armed forces commanders across the board have not (yet) arrested Trump for Treason but that is a far cry from them saying they support Trump or openly celebrate Trump the CinC. JCS led by the Army which is in charge of Trump's parade changed the shameless event to Veterans Day from Trump's bouncy 4th of July celebration of Trump and JCS removed the North Korea features of the parade Trump had dancing in his empty head.

Trump during the campaign said he'd "fire the generals" yet Trump hasn't removed a one of 'em. Reality is if Trump fired a general JCS would fire Trump and Trump knows it. Putin just failed miserably trying to get Gen. Votel commanding Central Command in hot water with Trump over Syria and the secret Putin-Trump meeting in Helsinki which came after the Putin-Trump Nato wrecking ball in Brussels. Pentagon considers Nato our number one alliance without which we become exposed to myriad evil forces in the world to include the radically increased likelihood of a war in Europe again -- another one.

The world according to Putin-Trump & Fanboyz.

Sorry I have no more use for your conspiracy theories and ignorance. Hope you survive in that bomb shelter. Trump has said a lot of things but results matter and the fact that you cannot provide any actual results indicating a high crime and misdemeanor you are nothing more than a radical conspiracy theory zealot.
 
Looking at Yes_Minister’s link on government spending (https://www.nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/spending/) one finds that in 2015 the US spent 15.88% of its budget on the military, medicare and health got more (27.42%) while Social Security, unemployment and labor got about double (33.26%). Nearly 16% in military spending is much more than what other governments spend for defence, but the US has a bigger military with lots of expensive weapons.
In 2016, NATO members collectively spent more than $920 billion on defense. The United States accounted for more than 70% of this. https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/no...h3HLiuVk1CNgVckWBYhF7vhx5_reB6iBoCZVoQAvD_BwE
Seventy percent of $920 billion would be $644 billion (more than all US military spending in 2015 –according to Yes_Minister’s source). I suppose US military spending rose about $30 billion between 2015 and 2016. I'm looking for what percentage of US military spending is on NATO.
 
Trump’s idiocy is further exemplified by his opposition to Article 5 of NATO, the principle of collective and mutual defense that is at the very heart of NATO’s founding treaty, and has been invoked only once, at the behest of G.W. Bush against Afghanistan, to which NATO agreed and countries contributed their blood and national treasure in support of the only country attacked, the United States. Trump spits in the face of those that sacrificed their own in the word and spirit of Article 5 in brotherhood support of the US. What a disgusting moron of a representative of America this Trump is. Disgraceful.
 
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