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91-year-old man beaten with brick, told 'go back to Mexico'

Kal'Stang said:
I know what it means. It means that someone makes an assumption about something based on their belief of what another person is REALLY saying. You're applying it to me wrongly is all as I have already explained that I would not assume someones political affiliation just because of their skin color. There is evidence of this as I have already posted a few videos on this forum of black Trump supporters.

Now, do I believe that the media uses words in such a way as to put forth a certain narrative when it comes to race? I do indeed. But that has nothing to do with Trump. They've been doing that even before Trump became Prez.
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See, you're doing it again. "the media uses words in such a way as to put forth a certain narrative when it comes to race", you say.






1. The "certain narrative" left to implication.

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Well, if the idea is deliberate omission of race when the perp is black or minority but make it loud and clear when the perp is whine, as many of the people you have agreed with say, then the "certain narrative" must be something bad about white people. As those people suggested, that white people are racist. But see, you leave it to implication.

2. "The media"

Which media? Well, assuming you are communicating in normal English - that is, responding in context to the people you are responding to - then we're talking about a subset of "the media" that has this supposed motive to make white people look racist. Nothing else makes sense.

Could you possibly be talking about Fox News? Breitbart? Of course not. Plus, the OP's article, which stimulated all this, was from CNN. We're talking about liberal leaning media. But, again, you make sure not to specify which type of media.

3. "the media uses words in such a way as to put forth a certain narrative when it comes to race"

Well, now we have to put everything together. If we're talking about liberal media, are you saying that the liberal media wants to suggest that all white people including Democrats who claim to care about racism are racist? Or are you saying that the liberal media wants to suggest a certain subset of white people are racist? And if so, which culprit? You leave it to implication even though, once more, it's obvious what is meant.





Now, it's obvious that you do have a specific meaning in mind, but it's also obvious that you don't want to straight-up say it. You leave it to implication on purpose. If someone wanted to debate you about your statement, they are necessarily required to work out the three Whiches. Then you could put on a big show of indignantly attacking them for "assuming", even if they did (perhaps especially if they did) hit the nail on the head.

If you intentionally tried to set up a situation where you could jump down people's throat in the future for supposedly "misunderstanding" the specific meaning you had in mind but deliberately left to implication, you really couldn't do a better job.
 
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Top Cat said:
Wait. You think all blacks don't listen to Trump?
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What? No, I meant the posters who posted blaming Trump and white racism thinking the attacker must have been a white woman.
 
The fact this thread has turned into a left vs right, trump good vs trump bad . . . and some how even obama got brought up is evidence of how sad things are right now in politics.....good grief

IF this was just an assault I hope the guy recovers as best as possible and the criminals that did this get caught and punished to the max of the law.
 
j-mac said:
Nonsense...Shoo troll.
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Not nonsense at all. I know your TDS requires you to look the other way, but your denial cannot change reality.
 
Mr Person said:
See, you're doing it again. "the media uses words in such a way as to put forth a certain narrative when it comes to race", you say.






1. The "certain narrative" left to implication.

:thinking

Well, if the idea is deliberate omission of race when the perp is black or minority but make it loud and clear when the perp is whine, as many of the people you have agreed with say, then the "certain narrative" must be something bad about white people. As those people suggested, that white people are racist.

2. "The media"

Which media? Well, assuming you are communicating in normal English - that is, responding in context to the people you are responding to - then we're talking about a subset of "the media" that has this supposed motive to make white people look racist.

Could you possibly be talking about Fox News? Breitbart? Of course not. Plus, the OP's article, which stimulated all this, was from CNN. We're talking about liberal leaning media.

3. "the media uses words in such a way as to put forth a certain narrative when it comes to race"

Well, now we have to put everything together. If we're talking about liberal media, are you saying that the liberal media wants to suggest that all white people including Democrats who claim to care about racism are racist? Or are you saying that the liberal media wants to suggest a certain subset of white people are racist? And if so, which culprit?





Now, it's obvious that you do have a specific meaning in mind, but it's also obvious that you don't want to straight-up say it. You leave it to implication on purpose. If someone wanted to debate you about your statement, they are necessarily required to work out the three Whiches. Then you could put on a big show of indignantly attacking them for "assuming", even if they did (perhaps especially if they did) hit the nail on the head.

If you intentionally tried to set up a situation where you could jump down people's throat in the future for supposedly "misunderstanding" the specific meaning you had in mind but deliberately left to implication, you really couldn't do a better job.
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Oh its far simpler than all that.

1: This applies to all sides of the media. Be it left or right.

2: The media uses race to push a narrative. If its the left then they push whites are always the bad guys, and blacks are victims. If its the right side then the whites are victims, and blacks are the bad guys. Now on the flip side, for the left side of the media, if the perp is of a color that does not fit their narrative they'll still report on what happened, but they often leave out comments about the race of the perp. As evidenced by both the OP of this thread and the article linked to in post 6. When it comes to the right side of the media they do the same thing. They (the media) push the narrative not because of some racial conspiracy. But rather because it creates conflict. And conflict means higher ratings which in turn means more profit. It's purely done for the profit.
 
Kal'Stang said:
And to suggest that the whole country is fueled by it is just as delusional.
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It's not the whole country. Stop making **** up. No one suggested that. It's the knuckledraggers who feed on the red meat Trump tosses out there continously.
 
Taylor said:
It's really a shame that Obama's "leadership" failed to reduce the bigotry, vitriol and violence that is rife among his base.
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If anything, Obama kept stoking the racial division...
 
Top Cat said:
It's not the whole country. Stop making **** up. No one suggested that. It's the knuckledraggers who feed on the red meat Trump tosses out there continously.
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If you have any evidence that the attack described in the OP was in any way fueled by Trump, lay it out there. Or just STFU already
 
Top Cat said:
It's not the whole country. Stop making **** up. No one suggested that. It's the knuckledraggers who feed on the red meat Trump tosses out there continously.
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Oh, so you mean the people in this country whom DON'T want to see it destroyed?
 
Kal'Stang said:
What Moot said there would only be true if the whole country were lemmings. Considering all the divisiveness in this country I would definitely not call this a country full of lemmings. It also is nothing more than an excuse to attempt to take personal responsibility out of the picture.
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Thank you for elaborating on my point earlier in the thread.
Taking personal responsibility seems to be a foreign concept. So tired of partisans misplacing their anger and assigning blame to Trump.
Again, Trump had nothing to do with the woman's choice to criminally assault an elderly gentleman. I doubt race did either. Criminal thugs aren't selective when it comes to the race of another.
 
Top Cat said:
Trump's incessant rhetoric is fueling this kind of crap. To suggest otherwise is delusional.
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You have no proof for the above unless you're omniscient
Nice attempt at a faux narrative though....
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Yeah, the best part of the GOP. Don't be proud of what you did.
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Yup; the part of the GOP that sides with the dems ... that part that always talks about reaching across the aisle when they mean appeasing the left ... that part that always says That's not who we are while they're getting shafted by the dems ... that part that promised repeal and replace until they actually had a chance to ... yup, that's the part we are working on to get rid off with Trump's help.

And, man, I am proud of what we did!
 
Barnacle said:
Yup; the part of the GOP that sides with the dems ... that part that always talks about reaching across the aisle when they mean appeasing the left ... that part that always says That's not who we are while they're getting shafted by the dems ... that part that promised repeal and replace until they actually had a chance to ... yup, that's the part we are working on to get rid off with Trump's help.

And, man, I am proud of what we did!
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They needed a good ass-kicking...
 
Barnacle said:
Yup; the part of the GOP that sides with the dems ... that part that always talks about reaching across the aisle when they mean appeasing the left ... that part that always says That's not who we are while they're getting shafted by the dems ... that part that promised repeal and replace until they actually had a chance to ... yup, that's the part we are working on to get rid off with Trump's help.

And, man, I am proud of what we did!
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And now, all that’s left is the ignorant, belligerent, racist and politically nihilistic wing of the party.

Trump supporters are scum.
 
Marco Montana said:
Thats horrible, will you post the Mexicans that raped women and children, how about the video of MS13 cutting off the arms and legs of a guy in the woods and leaving him to be eaten alive by animals?

Funny you post these stories as our Moral Arbiter yet ignore the others!
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None of those stories have any bearing whatsoever on this event.

Obviously.
 
Marco Montana said:
So because you can't push your HATE WHITEY narrative this story is no longer important? You're pathetic!
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Since it's a list of white people being racist, it only makes sense to remove someone who is black from the list.

That said, everyone should be aware that a few black people are definitely racist against Latinos.
 
The Mark said:
Since it's a list of white people being racist, it only makes sense to remove someone who is black from the list.

That said, everyone should be aware that a few black people are definitely racist against Latinos.
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How do you know it's only a few?
 
holbritter said:
What? No, I meant the posters who posted blaming Trump and white racism thinking the attacker must have been a white woman.
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I still blame Trump. Just because the woman was black doesn't mean she wasn't influenced by Trump.
 
Barnacle said:
How do you know it's only a few?
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By "few", I mean "small percentage of".

Overall it's probably at least hundreds, if not thousands.
 
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