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US Army quietly discharging immigrant recruits [W:269]

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From the Associated Press

US Army quietly discharging immigrant recruits

SAN ANTONIO (AP) — Some immigrant U.S. Army reservists and recruits who enlisted in the military with a promised path to citizenship are being abruptly discharged, the Associated Press has learned.

The AP was unable to quantify how many men and women who enlisted through the special recruitment program have been booted from the Army, but immigration attorneys say they know of more than 40 who have been discharged or whose status has become questionable, jeopardizing their futures.


“It was my dream to serve in the military,” said reservist Lucas Calixto, a Brazilian immigrant who filed a lawsuit against the Army last week. “Since this country has been so good to me, I thought it was the least I could do to give back to my adopted country and serve in the United States military.”


Some of the service members say they were not told why they were being discharged. Others who pressed for answers said the Army informed them they’d been labeled as security risks because they have relatives abroad or because the Defense Department had not completed background checks on them.

COMMENT:-

America does not now have, and never has had, a need for foreigners in it military. Only Real True Patriotic American Patriotic Natural-born Patriotic Patriots should be allowed the privilege of serving in the US military. The mongrolization and feminization of the US military is all Obama's fault.

Right?
 
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It came under fire from conservatives when President Barack Obama added DACA recipients — young immigrants who were brought to the U.S. illegally — to the list of eligible enlistees. In response, the military layered on additional security clearances for recruits to pass before heading to boot camp.

Well, okay then.

So it goes...
 
Re: US Army quietly discharging immigrant recruits

The army has always recruited a limited number of foreign nationals. Scouts in the Indian wars to natives of communist countries in the cold war. The Lodge Act specifically authorized recruits from behind the Iron curtain. The reason: in case of war we planned on operating guerilla units behind Soviet lines.

The army being short of manpower, I cannot imagine it tossing out well behaved competently performing soldiers they made a contract with UNLESS there were some sort of disciplinary, behavioral, or performance problems.
 
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immigrant recruits or illegal immigrant recruits?
 
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From the Associated Press

US Army quietly discharging immigrant recruits

SAN ANTONIO (AP) — Some immigrant U.S. Army reservists and recruits who enlisted in the military with a promised path to citizenship are being abruptly discharged, the Associated Press has learned.

The AP was unable to quantify how many men and women who enlisted through the special recruitment program have been booted from the Army, but immigration attorneys say they know of more than 40 who have been discharged or whose status has become questionable, jeopardizing their futures.


“It was my dream to serve in the military,” said reservist Lucas Calixto, a Brazilian immigrant who filed a lawsuit against the Army last week. “Since this country has been so good to me, I thought it was the least I could do to give back to my adopted country and serve in the United States military.”


Some of the service members say they were not told why they were being discharged. Others who pressed for answers said the Army informed them they’d been labeled as security risks because they have relatives abroad or because the Defense Department had not completed background checks on them.

COMMENT:-

America does not now have, and never has had, a need for foreigners in it military. Only Real True Patriotic American Patriotic Natural-born Patriotic Patriots should be allowed the privilege of serving in the US military. The mongrolization and feminization of the US military is all Obama's fault.

Right?

wrong
 
Re: US Army quietly discharging immigrant recruits

The army has always recruited a limited number of foreign nationals. Scouts in the Indian wars to natives of communist countries in the cold war. The Lodge Act specifically authorized recruits from behind the Iron curtain. The reason: in case of war we planned on operating guerilla units behind Soviet lines.

The army being short of manpower, I cannot imagine it tossing out well behaved competently performing soldiers they made a contract with UNLESS there were some sort of disciplinary, behavioral, or performance problems.

Well, give your imagination button a nudge, because that is exactly what the US military is doing.
 
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immigrant recruits or illegal immigrant recruits?


That's a good question and one which would instantly spring to mind of anyone who didn't bother to read the article.

Anyone who had actually read the article would have the answer and so wouldn't need to ask the question.
 
Re: US Army quietly discharging immigrant recruits

That's a good question and one which would instantly spring to mind of anyone who didn't bother to read the article.

Anyone who had actually read the article would have the answer and so wouldn't need to ask the question.

I didn't read it... I was curious just by the title.

it might not be worth reading if it had a dishonest title.
 
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immigrant recruits or illegal immigrant recruits?


The left makes no such distinction.

However, they are non citizens. But IMO, once they are sworn in we should keep them unless there are real reasons not to.
 
Re: US Army quietly discharging immigrant recruits

The army has always recruited a limited number of foreign nationals. Scouts in the Indian wars to natives of communist countries in the cold war. The Lodge Act specifically authorized recruits from behind the Iron curtain. The reason: in case of war we planned on operating guerilla units behind Soviet lines.

The army being short of manpower, I cannot imagine it tossing out well behaved competently performing soldiers they made a contract with UNLESS there were some sort of disciplinary, behavioral, or performance problems.

They are not white & currently we don't want immigrant (non-white) troops ..........
 
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The immigrants are simply doing a job that many Americans won't. For instance, there has never been a Trump to serve in the US military.
 
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COMMENT:-

America does not now have, and never has had, a need for foreigners in it military. Only Real True Patriotic American Patriotic Natural-born Patriotic Patriots should be allowed the privilege of serving in the US military. The mongrolization and feminization of the US military is all Obama's fault.

Right?

I would change it to a minimum age of living here, like maybe six years old, and being educated in our schools for at least 10 of the 12 years. I don't think one needs to be native born, just raised and educated here. Too bad that isn't a requirement for president...
 
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The army being short of manpower, I cannot imagine it tossing out well behaved competently performing soldiers they made a contract with UNLESS there were some sort of disciplinary, behavioral, or performance problems.

I presume there was some incident in their record. Otherwise they would be doing many more.

Get real people.

Forty... out of how many?
 
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I didn't read it... I was curious just by the title.

it might not be worth reading if it had a dishonest title.

And how would you know if it had a "dishonest title" if you didn't read it?

Would you take the word of someone else who said that they had read it?

How would you know that they had actually read the article?

Would you take the word of a third person that the second person had read the article?

PS - Please define "worth reading".

PPS - Did you know that opinions and beliefs that you do not agree with are often considered to be "worth reading" because they give you an insight into how "the other guy" is thinking?

PPPS - Did you know that if you don't know how "the other guy" is thinking then the odds on you being able to work out what they will do in any given situation rapidly approximate nil?
 
Re: US Army quietly discharging immigrant recruits

I would change it to a minimum age of living here, like maybe six years old, and being educated in our schools for at least 10 of the 12 years. I don't think one needs to be native born, just raised and educated here. Too bad that isn't a requirement for president...


Um - "Natural born" is a requirement and so is 14 years living in the US. Of course, if the parents were Russian and Chinese citizens who remained in the US for the first 14 years after the birth of the child in the US and then moved to Vietnam for the next 21 years, the child would still meet all the legal requirements to be elected to the office of President of the United States of America.
 
Re: US Army quietly discharging immigrant recruits

I would change it to a minimum age of living here, like maybe six years old, and being educated in our schools for at least 10 of the 12 years. I don't think one needs to be native born, just raised and educated here. Too bad that isn't a requirement for president...

I think those are some reasonable requirements.
 
Re: US Army quietly discharging immigrant recruits

I presume there was some incident in their record. Otherwise they would be doing many more.

Get real people.

Forty... out of how many?


The article indicates that "incident in their record" isn't the case.

Some of the people are being discharged because the military simply cannot process their enlistment applications and some of the people (who were born in other countries) are being discharged simply because they have relatives in other countries.

As for the "forty" - who knows how many cases there were, I sure don't.

Do you?

Let's say that there was only ONE case where a person was "unjustifiably" denied the opportunity to join the US military and defend the Constitution of the United States of America for some "capricious reason". Would you say that that case should be ignored?

What if there were 10 cases?

What if there were 100 cases?

What if there were 1,000 cases?

What if there were 10,000 cases?

What if there were 100,000 cases?
 
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And how would you know if it had a "dishonest title" if you didn't read it?

Would you take the word of someone else who said that they had read it?
That's why I asked the question... If the title was being dishonest... I wouldn't find the article worth reading and i'll move along.

What do I find worth reading? I don't want to waste my time reading propaganda. Any article that equates an legal and illegal immigrant is being dishonest for political reasons.... i'd rather avoid wasting my time.

If I took the word of someone and moved on... I am not losing anything. If I took the word of someone and read it and found out that they were wrong... oh well too.... I don't regret asking the question, I generally trust the average DB user with such a simple question.

PPPS is irrelevant to conversation.
 
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America does not now have, and never has had, a need for foreigners in it military. Only Real True Patriotic American Patriotic Natural-born Patriotic Patriots should be allowed the privilege of serving in the US military. The mongrolization and feminization of the US military is all Obama's fault.

Right?

Wrong... completely wrong.

We literally have people who have served in our military, been to Iraq or Afghanistan, and are now being discharged and/or have already completed service and now deported.

It is ridiculous that this is where we are.
 
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They are not white & currently we don't want immigrant (non-white) troops ..........

And there it is! The brutal truth, my brother. :applaud

Once the Swampy Corporate Party gets their war privileged white boys may have to man up for their country. Never ****ing happen. A generational preponderance of bone spurs among fortunate sons will be suddenly be discovered. Suddenly the Swamp Corporate Party will welcome foreign nationals willing to serve in the US military.

“Yeah, but Risky, how can this be?”

It be, y’all, it be.
 
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In my boot camp division there were immigrants from Haiti, Jamaica, and an Asian country that I'm not sure of (he didn't speak much English). They were great guys with my only problem being that they made everyone else look like ******s. I don't see why their ability to serve should be under threat.
 
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Now we get the rest of the story...

The Pentagon says there has been no recent change in policy regarding immigrants who apply to join the U.S. military under a special recruitment program that ended last year.

And a Defense Department spokesperson said an Associated Press report published on Thursday “mischaracterized” how the Pentagon has handled recruits whose applications were still pending when the pilot program was ended in September of 2017.

The AP report said some immigrant U.S. Army reservists and recruits who enlisted in the military with a promised path to citizenship were being “abruptly discharged,” with no notice or explanation.

“The notification that they have not been accepted into the program is their notice,” said Maj. Carla M. Gleason, a Pentagon spokesperson. “There has been no change in policy.”

Gleason said the Pentagon has been methodically working through the backlog of applications of potential recruits who were waiting to be vetted and were on a delayed entry status.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ort-of-abrupt-discharge-of-immigrant-recruits
 
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They are not white & currently we don't want immigrant (non-white) troops ..........

When all else fails play the race card. How typical of you.

That's pretty much all you have isn't it.
 
Re: US Army quietly discharging immigrant recruits

From the Associated Press

US Army quietly discharging immigrant recruits

SAN ANTONIO (AP) — Some immigrant U.S. Army reservists and recruits who enlisted in the military with a promised path to citizenship are being abruptly discharged, the Associated Press has learned.

The AP was unable to quantify how many men and women who enlisted through the special recruitment program have been booted from the Army, but immigration attorneys say they know of more than 40 who have been discharged or whose status has become questionable, jeopardizing their futures.


“It was my dream to serve in the military,” said reservist Lucas Calixto, a Brazilian immigrant who filed a lawsuit against the Army last week. “Since this country has been so good to me, I thought it was the least I could do to give back to my adopted country and serve in the United States military.”


Some of the service members say they were not told why they were being discharged. Others who pressed for answers said the Army informed them they’d been labeled as security risks because they have relatives abroad or because the Defense Department had not completed background checks on them.

COMMENT:-

America does not now have, and never has had, a need for foreigners in it military. Only Real True Patriotic American Patriotic Natural-born Patriotic Patriots should be allowed the privilege of serving in the US military. The mongrolization and feminization of the US military is all Obama's fault.

Right?
This is really strange, never even hard of an uncharacterized discharge. Going to be interesting to find out what policy or who is behind this, me thinks suing them in court should get to the bottom of the matter.
 
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Now we get the rest of the story...

Except that it does not address why they were released.
 
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