Syria rebels begin new talks with Russia over peace deal: rebel spokesman

From Reuters


AMMAN (Reuters) - Syrian rebel negotiators began a new round of talks with Russian officers on Tuesday over a peace deal in southern Syria that would hand over their weapons and allow Russian military police to enter rebel-held towns, a rebel spokesman said.

Ibrahim al Jabawi said the rebels had carried to the negotiating table their “response to a list of Russian demands” that include the handing over of weapons and settling the status of rebels in a deal that ends the fighting.

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I sure hope they can work it out. We don't need to be there -- it's not our fight -- and it would sure help the rest of the world if all the refugees could return home to Syria.

Let me just ask a question here, and all it requires is an honest answer!

Can anyone trust anything that Putin says?

Now, while you are being perfectly honest, answer this- Can anyone believe a word Donald Trump says?

I mean, can anyone ever trust any leader that rigs his own elections?

Please remember to be honest with yourself while answering this question!

All of my questions just require yes and no answers! They are all just simple questions!

fishnthec said:

Let me just ask a question here, and all it requires is an honest answer!

Can anyone trust anything that Putin says?

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Mr. Trump says that you can and that he does. Other people have different opinions.

fishnthec said:

Now, while you are being perfectly honest, answer this- Can anyone believe a word Donald Trump says?

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Mr. Trump says that you can. Other people have different opinions.

fishnthec said:

I mean, can anyone ever trust any leader that rigs his own elections?

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"Gerrymandering" is as American as Apple Pie and has been approved by the Supreme Court of the United States of America - as has "voter disenfranchisement".

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They are all just simple questions!

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Actually they are of the "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?" variety.

TU Curmudgeon said:

From Reuters

Syria rebels begin new talks with Russia over peace deal: rebel spokesman
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AMMAN (Reuters) - Syrian rebel negotiators began a new round of talks with Russian officers on Tuesday over a peace deal in southern Syria that would hand over their weapons and allow Russian military police to enter rebel-held towns, a rebel spokesman said.

Ibrahim al Jabawi said the rebels had carried to the negotiating table their “response to a list of Russian demands” that include the handing over of weapons and settling the status of rebels in a deal that ends the fighting.

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To the total astonishment of everyone involved, the presence of American representatives at those meetings was not considered necessary.

What is puzzling the world community is how the Russians, Iranians, and Syrians (both sides) could possibly think that they could end the civil war without Mr. Trump telling them what to do and how to do it.
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At this point the rebels are in no position to negotiate anything. They have been absolutely crushed like a bug by powerful forces such as Assad, The Iranians, and the Russians, on top of losing the support of the US which is no longer interested in spreading or protecting democracy or human rights.. They never stood a chance. Now they just have to bend over and take whatever Assad wants to give them. Too many powerful forces aligned against them.

ataraxia said:

At this point the rebels are in no position to negotiate anything. They have been absolutely crushed against powerful forces such as Assad, The Iranians, and the Russians, ...

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So far so good.

ataraxia said:

and losing the support of the US which is no longer interested in spreading or protecting democracy or human rights..

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Given the track record of the US government for supporting crass, brutal, venal, dictatorial, and murderous thugs as long as those crass, brutal, venal, dictatorial, and murderous thugs did whatever the US government told them to do, some people might take issue with your "is no longer interested".

ataraxia said:

They never stood a chance.

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A reasonable conclusion.

ataraxia said:

Now they just have to bend over and take whatever Assad wants to give them. Too many powerful forces aligned against them.

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Yep. It's sort of a shame that the US backed group (and its terrorist allies) didn't manage to prevail against Mr. al-Assad's forces (and their terrorist allies) so that the "Rebels" (and their terrorist allies) could oust Mr. al-Assad's government - isn't it?

Or do you see the farcical nature of the whole "We are fighting for peace and freedom." think in Syria?

I don't know, many of these rebel groups were fighting for secular democracy in Syria. Maybe a little bit of an extra nudge might have given them a better chance.

ataraxia said:

I don't know, many of these rebel groups were fighting for secular democracy in Syria. Maybe a little bit of an extra nudge might have given them a better chance.

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And many of those "rebel groups" were fighting for the same principle that many of the American colonists came to America for "I don't like it when you oppress me, so I want to be in charge so that I can oppress you." (which is a paraphrase and you actually have to take a look at the various "Colonial Charters" to understand what I am talking about).

Not only that, but many of those "rebel groups" changed sides so frequently that you needed a program to keep track of who was fighting for whom and why.

HowardBThiname said:

I sure hope they can work it out. We don't need to be there -- it's not our fight -- and it would sure help the rest of the world if all the refugees could return home to Syria.

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Wishing? Hoping? Do you leave your well being up to wishing and hoping?

And would you mind telling us all what Russia's purpose of being there is, and how that is any different than the US being there?

Do you think the civil war in Syria is Russia's fight to win? How so? Do tell!

Was the war Adolph Hitler started in Europe during WWII our fight?

How about the war between the Palestinians and Israel? Is that our fight? Should we be taking sides?

Exactly what is our fight to you in your own words?

fishnthec said:

Wishing? Hoping? Do you leave your well being up to wishing and hoping?

And would you mind telling us all what Russia's purpose of being there is, and how that is any different than the US being there?

Do you think the civil war in Syria is Russia's fight to win? How so? Do tell!

Was the war Adolph Hitler started in Europe during WWII our fight?

How about the war between the Palestinians and Israel? Is that our fight? Should we be taking sides?

Exactly what is our fight to you in your own words?

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If Assad has requested Putin's help -- then, yes, Russia has more right to be there than we do. Does Assad want the US there? I'm pretty sure he's said just the opposite.

That said, Russia and Syria have an alliance. The US has no alliance with Syria. The US has no alliance with the rebels that are fighting Assad. I'm guessing that you can see how Russia is more involved there than we are.

If you read your history books, you'll find that the US tried to stay out of Hitler's war. In fact, Germany declared war on us before we (as a response) declared war on them. So, our reasoning there was a bit different. Has Assad declared war on the US?

In the Israel/Pali thing -- we're kind of committed to Israel seeing as they are our ally and a strategic one at that. They offer us the best base of operations, should we ever need it, in the Middle East. We do try to stay out of their affairs, but we are often dragged in by the UN asking us to do one thing or another. We don't go there and fight against the Palis however, so your comparison is a little off.

We have no ally and no enemy in Syria. We need to stay out.