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Oregon right-wingers clash with anti-fascists at march in Portland

rhinefire said:
Wait for the midterm elections and the presidential election in 2020.You will witness fights and riots never before witnessed here in the U.S. The left is now a band of warriors as opposed to formerly peace loving demonstrators. There will be Super Violence.
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Well, I hope for all of our sakes you are wrong in that prediction...But, as it is going now with everyone from "news" media outlets, to our elected politicians themselves seemingly sending out "dogwhistles" toward violence, it may be a reality.
 
rhinefire said:
Wait for the midterm elections and the presidential election in 2020.You will witness fights and riots never before witnessed here in the U.S. The left is now a band of warriors as opposed to formerly peace loving demonstrators. There will be Super Violence.
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Wait until Trump doesn't get a third term.
 
for those confused by antifa and their tactics, here is a decent explanation of them...

 
rocket88 said:
Wait until Trump doesn't get a third term.
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Oh come on rocket....y'all rolled your eyes, deservedly I might add when those of us on the right thought fleetingly that Obama may try and leverage the power of the Presidency to keep power after his terms, and this is no different....Trump will exit on January of 2025 after his terms like every other President....
 
j-mac said:
Well, I hope for all of our sakes you are wrong in that prediction...But, as it is going now with everyone from "news" media outlets, to our elected politicians themselves seemingly sending out "dogwhistles" toward violence, it may be a reality.
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I do think that the if the "blue wave" doesn't happen, there WILL be riots, and there WILL be burning, and there WILL be political violence we haven't seen in this country for some time.

One need only see the reaction to the 2016 election to conclude that.

If the "blue wave" does happen, there won't be.
 
j-mac said:
Oh come on rocket....y'all rolled your eyes, deservedly I might add when those of us on the right thought fleetingly that Obama may try and leverage the power of the Presidency to keep power after his terms, and this is no different....Trump will exit on January of 2025 after his terms like every other President....
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So you say. However he has said that "President for life" was a good idea, and his cult of personality is such that people believe he is the only solution to our problems.

My prediction is that as we get closer to 2024, the followers will start making noise about repealing the 22nd Amendment
 
rocket88 said:
So you say. However he has said that "President for life" was a good idea, and his cult of personality is such that people believe he is the only solution to our problems.

My prediction is that as we get closer to 2024, the followers will start making noise about repealing the 22nd Amendment
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I think those people are a severe minority, the trust cult. I think most people that voted him voted for him as a crap-shoot. I think more people enjoy that he is edgey, but dont really trust him cult-like like you say. And the ones that do are a minority. (like the god people that think god put trump in office)
 
HowardBThiname said:
The delusion runs deep in you my friend.
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Look at those peaceful guys carrying guns around. I mean, they sure aren't violent or intending to cause any violence are they now?

lol
 
j-mac said:
Oh come on rocket....y'all rolled your eyes, deservedly I might add when those of us on the right thought fleetingly that Obama may try and leverage the power of the Presidency to keep power after his terms, and this is no different....Trump will exit on January of 2025 after his terms like every other President....
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No, unless there's some dramatic mood change, I expect he will call it quits when he's done with his first term, if there's no letup in the media antagonism who needs this? Once he's fulfilled his campaign promises he can walk away satisfied with his accomplishments. I think if he can get this Supreme Court appointment done and get that wall built he should call it a day and step aside. Obamacare has been gutted, we got the Muslim ban, the LGBTQetc is being judicially curtailed, plenty of conservative court appointments and lots of deregulation, did away with the global warming alarmism, got the pipeline, tax cuts and a booming economy. What's left to do? He needs to make sure Pence is his successor, that's all.
 
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Plus Ultra said:
No, unless there's some dramatic mood change, I expect he will call it quits when he's done with his first term, if there's no letup in the media antagonism who needs this? Once he's fulfilled his campaign promises he can walk away satisfied with his accomplishments. I think if he can get this Supreme Court appointment done and get that wall built he should call it a day and step aside. Obamacare has been gutted, we got the Muslim ban, the LGBTQetc is being judicially curtailed, plenty of conservative court appointments and lots of deregulation, did away with the global warming alarmism, got the pipeline, tax cuts and a booming economy. What's left to do? He needs to make sure Pence is his successor, that's all.
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You know what... I think youre onto something. That seems like the most strategic thing, he will mic drop at the end of 1 term and walk away.
 
dirtpoorchris said:
You know what... I think youre onto something. That seems like the most strategic thing, he will mic drop at the end of 1 term and walk away.
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We could only be so lucky.
 
I think Trump's successor will be ideologically more committed to conservativism, that he will advance the ideals of conservatives beyond Trump's campaign promises. I don't think Bernie Sanders (which critical lefties already find too conservative) or Ocasio-Cortez (who proposes a truly socialist agenda) can mobilize a constituency in a booming economy with low unemployment. I do think immigration reform (stricter enforcement) has broad appeal.
 
Plus Ultra said:
I think Trump's successor will be ideologically more committed to conservativism, that he will advance the ideals of conservatives beyond Trump's campaign promises. I don't think Bernie Sanders (which critical lefties already find too conservative) or Ocasio-Cortez (who proposes a truly socialist agenda) can mobilize a constituency in a booming economy with low unemployment. I do think immigration reform (stricter enforcement) has broad appeal.
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I think you will find out you are wrong as there is much more to this than you realize and the polls indicate that most of the country is not aligned with Trump's immigration policies.
 
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JacksinPA said:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...i-fascists-at-march-in-portland-idUSKBN1JR150

(Reuters) - Anti-fascist and right-wing activists clashed in Portland, Oregon on Saturday night as violence broke out during a march in support of a conservative Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate, media reported.
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Unfortunately we are going to be seeing a lot more of this as we approach November.
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Thanks to leftists like you who don’t have the backbone to condemn Antifa for their violent acts and support leftist government officials who call for more of it, I fear you are right.
 
rocket88 said:
So you say. However he has said that "President for life" was a good idea, and his cult of personality is such that people believe he is the only solution to our problems.

My prediction is that as we get closer to 2024, the followers will start making noise about repealing the 22nd Amendment
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That's ridiculous....Are you going on the record with that, something I can save for later if so?
 
j-mac said:
That's ridiculous....Are you going on the record with that, something I can save for later if so?
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Save it for later. It'sa prediction, and it could be wrong. I don't think you'll use it because you'll be beating that drum too. Unless you're going to go on record saying you won't support a third term.
 
rocket88 said:
Save it for later. It'sa prediction, and it could be wrong. I don't think you'll use it because you'll be beating that drum too. Unless you're going to go on record saying you won't support a third term.
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I am for Presidents serving two terms as proscribed.

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Atomic Kid said:
I think you will find out you are wrong as there is much more to this than you realize and the polls indicate that most of the country is not aligned with Trump's immigration policies.
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I don't know whether immigration will remain the top issue until the midterms, but I do know it is of more concern to Republicans than Democrats:
Immigration tends to be an issue that is more important to Republicans than Democrats. The 2016 national exit poll found that Trump beat Hillary Clinton by 31 percentage points among voters who said immigration was the most important issue facing the country. The 2016 Cooperative Congressional Election Study found that 73 percent of Trump voters said immigration was of “very high importance” to them, compared with 24 percent of Clinton voters. And despite Trump’s rhetoric on immigration and Latinos during the 2016 campaign, he probably did no worse among them than Mitt Romney did in 2012. (And he may have done slightly better.) https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...-among-republicans-dont-tell-the-whole-story/
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We all remember Trump's campaign, he railed against illegal immigrants, some think this is what won him the election.
Trump’s approval on his handling of immigration remains little changed since the beginning of the year, with 52% of registered voters saying in an ongoing Reuters/Ipsos poll that they disapprove of the way the president is handling immigration.

Americans are squarely divided along partisan lines on Trump’s stance on immigration: Eighty-one percent of Republicans said they approve of his handling of the issue while 84% of registered Democrats said they disapprove. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...close-second-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN1JV31K
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Then again, immigration is more important to Republicans, for Democrats the most important issue is healthcare.
 
THE PREMISE OF THIS THREAD IS BASS ACKWARD

Right wingers did not clash with ANTIFA.

ANTFA attacked a group attempting to exercise its constitutional right to peacefully assemble. This is the mod-us oprandi of ANTIFA. The habitually attack a peacefully assembled group with whom the left disagrees.

The Nazi had their brown shirts and
Democratic party has its black shirted ANTIFA
 
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