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Trump signs executive order to stop family separations at border

Hatuey said:
Or jailing their children.

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They are not jailed. They are detained while their parents situation is determined, and suitable family to place them with is determined,

The other option is to turn them out on the streets to fend for themselves. I know some think that the option to not detain their parents is an option. It might be. Don’t expect that to happen any time soon.
 
ClaraD said:
You would be wrong about that...read the law on asylum. It requires either a legal entry point OR within a year inside the USA. I was shown that piece of law at Puente Nuevo, Brownsville, Tx by a CBP supervisor in 2015.
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Then you can easily link to it for the rest of us.
 
Like 45 said on Tuesday night in Duluth, they're an infestation. Lock them up.
 
Aberration said:
They are not jailed. They are detained while their parents situation is determined, and suitable family to place them with is determined
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Thesauruses are your friends:

jail
jāl/Submit
verb
past tense: jailed; past participle: jailed
put (someone) in jail.
"the driver was jailed for two years"
synonyms: imprison, put in prison, send to prison, incarcerate, lock up, put away, intern, detain, hold (prisoner/captive), put into detention, put behind bars, put inside
"she was jailed for killing her husband"
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de·tain
dəˈtān/Submit
verb
verb: detain; 3rd person present: detains; past tense: detained; past participle: detained; gerund or present participle: detaining
keep (someone) from proceeding; hold back.
"she made to open the door, but he detained her"
synonyms: delay, hold up, make late, keep, slow up/down; More
keep (someone) in official custody, typically for questioning about a crime or in politically sensitive situations.
"she was detained without trial for two years"
synonyms: hold, take into custody, take (in), confine, imprison, lock up, put in jail, intern; More
antonyms: release
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Your semantics are being noted:

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You've got guards, you've got cells, you've got people accused of a crime, and you can't leave. What else do you need to call it a jail?
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
I am assuming that folks from Central America would rather spend a few (20?) days in US detention (if they get caught) than to get asylum hearing appointment ticket #42,786 at a US consulate in Mexico and be told that ticket #213 is now being served. I doubt that Mexico provides them with free room & board during the wait for a US asylum hearing or that most would ever be granted US asylum based on "our life in my Central American homeland really, really sucked and we have been living in Mexico for over a year".
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So I guess a mat at the detention center is luxury compared to the ****hole they came from. Plus they get food and medical for free.
 
Hatuey said:
Thesauruses are your friends:





Your semantics are being noted:

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You've got guards, you've got cells, you've got people accused of a crime, and you can't leave. What else do you need to call it a jail?
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I'll bet they'd rather stay in that "jail" then get pushed back out into the desert where they came from with the rapists, traffickers and drug runners.
 
American said:
I'll bet they'd rather stay in that "jail" then get pushed back out into the desert where they came from with the rapists, traffickers and drug runners.
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"American" you are probably right but why did they have to separate the children? The answer is clearly "to be as cruel as possible".
 
ClaraD said:
Finding case law is simple....it doesnt require a link..
Reno v Flores...look it up
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Anytime you post quoted content it is required to post the link....i suggest you do that

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ClaraD said:
Whether the war was wrong or right is a debate all of its own...his sacrifice for this country is not lessened by your opinion of the war he served in. My son served in Afghanistan, he is an example of what is sacrifice and guess what...he too is liberal
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I too served in the military. It is obvious that there are members of all political leans serving in our armed forces. I have no problem with that, although by the tone of some liberals in here they may.
 
Vern said:
"American" you are probably right but why did they have to separate the children? The answer is clearly "to be as cruel as possible".
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Yes, they should be just handing them over to traffickers like the Obama administration did....
 
Vern said:
"American" you are probably right but why did they have to separate the children? The answer is clearly "to be as cruel as possible".
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Because via court order children can't be kept with their parents while the parents are in adult detention.

You've quite a bit of catching up to do, even the MSM is beginning to explain.
 
American said:
I'll bet they'd rather stay in that "jail" then get pushed back out into the desert where they came from with the rapists, traffickers and drug runners.
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Sure, I'd bet it's a summer camp.

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Hatuey said:
Sure, I'd bet it's a summer camp.

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It's no trip to disney for sure....But, that is on the parents that put them in this position....
 
American said:
So I guess a mat at the detention center is luxury compared to the ****hole they came from. Plus they get food and medical for free.
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Of course, there is also the rather unique ability to add an 'anchor baby' to the mix - after all, it is rumored that the US will no longer spit up families.
 
Hatuey said:
Sure, I'd bet it's a summer camp.

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We don't have to guess, the left stream media has already told us that they're like Nazi concentration camps. They even posted pictures. Except they had to take them down because they were from 2014, when Obama was running the ovens.
 
Anthony60 said:
We don't have to guess,
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There is no guessing, this is already an argument being floated by FOX News.

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j-mac said:
It's no trip to disney for sure....
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No, it's a summer camp. Let's send our children to these jails when any of us commit any kind of offense. Parking ticket? Desert summer camp.

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Hatuey said:
There is no guessing, this is already an argument being floated by FOX News.

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What argument are they floating? That the children aren't being tortured?
 
j-mac said:
We can not and should not be expected to take everyone that wishes to come here.

It is my understanding that those seeking asylum are to seek it "in the first safe country". That would be Mexico.

Mexico is not our friend in this.

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Yes, they can't just go country shopping. Asylum ends when they get out of the dangerous country (assuming it is dangerous) and get into a safe country. They can't get into a safe country and then say they want asylum in another country, since they no longer need asylum. I don't know why Mexico would not meet that criteria.
 
Anthony60 said:
What argument are they floating? That the children aren't being tortured?
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No, that it's a summer camp. The kids are swimming in pools, and doing scavenger hunts around their cells.

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trouble13 said:
Why is that?

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Anthony60 said:
Yes, they can't just go country shopping. Asylum ends when they get out of the dangerous country (assuming it is dangerous) and get into a safe country. They can't get into a safe country and then say they want asylum in another country, since they no longer need asylum. I don't know why Mexico would not meet that criteria.
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I too was curious so I looked it up and posted a snip from an article I found earlier in this thread:

From Human Rights Frist.....Human Rights First has concluded that Mexico is far from a “safe third country” for refugees.

Dangerous Territory: Mexico Still Not Safe for Refugees

Earlier this year the Trump Administration and its Congressional allies advanced proposals to foist U.S. refugee protection obligations onto Mexico and to block from the United States non-Mexican refugees and asylum seekers who pass through Mexico. These moves would undermine U.S. global leadership and violate American legal commitments even if Mexico had a strong refugee protection system. They are all the more dangerous because Mexico doesn’t. Amid mass displacement caused by rampant human rights abuses and violence in the Northern Triangle of Central America, these proposals would force thousands of refugees to return to or remain in a country deeply unsafe for them.
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https://www.humanrightsfirst.org/resource/dangerous-territory-mexico-still-not-safe-refugees

Another article:

Mexico: An unsafe country for thousands of refugees fleeing violence in Central America | Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) International
 
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Anthony60 said:
Wow, that sounds awesome!
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The government should send all of our kids there for any violations of the law. Parking tickets, jaywalking, misuse of public funds, etc.

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