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Trump administration withdrawing from UN Human Rights Council [W:141]

Re: Trump administration withdrawing from UN Human Rights Council

Ikari said:
Are we violating Human Rights? Why would the UN HRC be against us?
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You would have to ask UN's the experts on human rights from China, Cuba, Venezuela and Saudi Arabia about that.
 
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Carleen said:
Children have never been separated by any other president this is a policy that is inhuman and devastating to these families. This is not a solution to illegal immigration. We need to be better than this. This deterrent will not work. Many of these people are fleeing a much worse situation. I do not disagree we need to reform our system, but this is not the way.
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This is exactly the way.

Every other way we have tried in the past, we were taken advantage of and were "rewarded" with more drugs, more crime, more violent crime, more welfare recipients, more cost to American tax payers.

I am doing everything possible to send the fake images the MSM produces to Latin American countries.
May those images, which don't even represent our present immigration procedures, deter others from even approaching the border.
 
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Barnacle said:
This is exactly the way.

Every other way we have tried in the past, we were taken advantage of and were "rewarded" with more drugs, more crime, more violent crime, more welfare recipients, more cost to American tax payers.

I am doing everything possible to send the fake images the MSM produces to Latin American countries.
May those images, which don't even represent our present immigration procedures, deter others from even approaching the border.
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I think you need to do some research and stop listening to our Liar in Chief. Fear and intimidation is what fuels this immoral president. He is not fit to be president in my opinion. You have a good night. I’m done with conversing with you.
 
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Carleen said:
Children have never been separated by any other president this is a policy that is inhuman and devastating to these families. This is not a solution to illegal immigration. We need to be better than this. This deterrent will not work. Many of these people are fleeing a much worse situation. I do not disagree we need to reform our system, but this is not the way.
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Let's put this lie to rest.

Under President Ulysses S. Grant, pursuant to earlier suggestions from Presidents Abraham Lincoln and Andrew Johnson, Grant gave the order to forcibly remove Indian (native American) children from their families to be schooled in assimilations schools, established boarding schools in 1870 under the auspices of Lt. Richard Pratt, formally called Indian Residential Schools. Tens of thousands of children, as young as 4 years old were torn from the families, at times, after murdering their fathers and mothers who tried to protect them. The history of this nation is filled with shame from such events. Do not force your ignorance on others. Shame on you.

Had Lincoln not been assassinated, he wanted to send all former slave children to Africa for "re-education into the primitive world from which they came. They are not suited to our White society." from letters between Lincoln and Grant Vol. II, McMillan Press, 1902
 
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So the answer here is to just walk away because you don't like something. Much easier I guess than to stay and fight for recognition of the inherent dignity and for the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family which is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world.

If President Trump chooses to display an atmosphere of American isolationism and clearly isn't keen to cooperate with other Countries in this instance, and no longer wishes to have his voice heard in relation to discussions surrounding the UDHR, there's a simple solution.

Close the door and move on.
 
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Barnacle said:
This is exactly the way.

Every other way we have tried in the past, we were taken advantage of and were "rewarded" with more drugs, more crime, more violent crime, more welfare recipients, more cost to American tax payers.

I am doing everything possible to send the fake images the MSM produces to Latin American countries.
May those images, which don't even represent our present immigration procedures, deter others from even approaching the border.
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Yes, let's spread propaganda against our own nation in other countries to scare foreignors away and damage our public image.

That's going to work out amazingly.
 
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Carleen said:
I think you need to do some research and stop listening to our Liar in Chief. Fear and intimidation is what fuels this immoral president. He is not fit to be president in my opinion. You have a good night. I’m done with conversing with you.
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You didn't even converse with me ... :lol:

You just gave a stupid comment to my statement.
But don't worry, I'll make sure as much as possible - in my limited capacity - to send out info to south of our border about what to expect when breaking our laws.
... and I'm enjoying every minute of passing on the liberals' fake images ... :lamo
 
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Carleen said:
I think you need to do some research and stop listening to our Liar in Chief. Fear and intimidation is what fuels this immoral president. He is not fit to be president in my opinion. You have a good night. I’m done with conversing with you.
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Time for you to follow your own advice.
 
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ataraxia said:
The UN Declaration of Human Rights was spearheaded by the US in 1948, after the horrors of WWII. It was designed to prevent atrocities like what the world had just gone through, and create a more humane world, and therefore more political and economic stability. These rights included the rights of all humans to food, water, shelter, a basic education, and healthcare. It was designed to prevent people having to face situations no human being should have to face.

Today’s Republican Party has systematically rejected these human rights and no longer believe in them. It is working to gut them here in the US as it pursues a policy of social Darwinism here at home. It is also no longer interested in whether they are pursued anywhere else in the world either.

So this is really no surprise. RIP ideas of human rights. It was a nice thought. But we are entering a brave new world now.
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this article points out the efforts of the russians to effect a barrier to the HRC and the "... Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which stands to this day as the most widely recognized statement of the rights to which every person on our planet is entitled ...". the actions of our former FLOTUS, Eleanor Roosevelt, the first HRC chair, to thwart the russian opposition was successful - until now
https://www.nytimes.com/1988/12/10/opinion/eleanor-roosevelt-s-legacy-human-rights.html
 
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Mycroft said:
shrug... Is this a surprise? Trump has already clearly established that the US won't have any part in groups or organizations that work against our interests.
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Trump? He is to the point, to paraphrase Groucho Marx, that "he refuses to be part of any groups or organizations that will stoop so low as to accept HIM as a member". The United States and the interests of AmeriCANs be damned, HIS pride and HIS self image is what matters.
 
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Carleen said:
Children have never been separated by any other president this is a policy that is inhuman and devastating to these families. This is not a solution to illegal immigration. We need to be better than this. This deterrent will not work. Many of these people are fleeing a much worse situation. I do not disagree we need to reform our system, but this is not the way.
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http://thehill.com/regulation/208397-immigration-activists-protest-obamas-deportation-policy
https://www.vox.com/2015/7/29/9067877/family-detention-immigration-flores
A federal judge has ruled that family detention violates the government's own rules for keeping immigrant children
There are strict legal standards for when and how the government could legally keep children in immigration detention. Those were set in 1996, when the government settled a lawsuit filed by advocacy groups, an event known the Flores settlement. Under the terms of the Flores settlement, the government has to hold children in the least restrictive conditions possible. That generally means "unsecured" facilities (in other words, places that run more like shelters than prisons) that are licensed for taking care of children.
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Thousands of U.S.-Citizen Children Separated From Parents, ICE Records Show : Immigration Impact
According to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) records, 72,410 individuals deported in 2013 said they had one or more U.S.-born children. Of those, 39,410 were deported in the first half of calendar year 2013 and the remaining 33,000 in the second half. In other words, in one year alone, many thousands of U.S.-citizen kids were separated from at least one parent. This is yet another example of how the U.S. deportation machine is systematically separating families and, in the process, affecting the lives of U.S.-citizen children, many of whom end up in foster care facilities after their parents are deported.
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Ikari said:
That the UN HRC is anti-Israel? Are they [Britian] pulling out too then?
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As far as I know Britain as of now is not pulling out, but they just issued a condemnation of the HRC's anti-Israel bias.
 
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Carleen said:
Children have never been separated by any other president this is a policy that is inhuman and devastating to these families. This is not a solution to illegal immigration. We need to be better than this. This deterrent will not work. Many of these people are fleeing a much worse situation. I do not disagree we need to reform our system, but this is not the way.
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If you believe that -- you've been living under a rock.
 
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tres borrachos said:
Of course the man who is ejaculating in public over the world's largest human rights abuser, his new BFF, the smart wonderful intelligent man who loves his country of North Korea, is pulling out of the UN Human Rights Council. Makes sense to me.
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It is sad that people who otherwise function nicely in polite society feel it necessary to be crude online.


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AliHajiSheik said:
It is sad that people who otherwise function nicely in polite society feel it necessary to be crude online.


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Spare me and the rest of the world your Puritan shock. This isn't a tea party. Bring smelling salts with you next time you arrive.
 
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Tres1B said:
Yes, let's spread propaganda against our own nation in other countries to scare foreignors away and damage our public image.

That's going to work out amazingly.
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Everybody with an ounce of brain knows exactly what is going on, and I'm not worried about their thoughts.

I'm only concerned about the ignorant, uneducated masses trying to illegally cross our borders ... and for those dumba***s pictures are worth more than a 1,000 words ... which they can't read anyway.

;)
 
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Ikari said:
Trump administration withdrawing from UN Human Rights Council | Fox News



Apparently the UN Human Rights Council is anti-Israel. But it seems to be yet another group Trump is withdrawing us from as he continues his attempt to isolate the US and diminish our international clout.
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So you have no problem with a group that promotes the destruction and elimination of 6 million people? You certainly have a different opinion and definition of human rights than I have
 
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Serenity said:
So the answer here is to just walk away because you don't like something. Much easier I guess than to stay and fight for recognition of the inherent dignity and for the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family which is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world.

If President Trump chooses to display an atmosphere of American isolationism and clearly isn't keen to cooperate with other Countries in this instance, and no longer wishes to have his voice heard in relation to discussions surrounding the UDHR, there's a simple solution.

Close the door and move on.
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What I really don’t understand is why we’re supposed to just be ok with vilified all the time.
 
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StuPedaso said:
Trump? He is to the point, to paraphrase Groucho Marx, that "he refuses to be part of any groups or organizations that will stoop so low as to accept HIM as a member". The United States and the interests of AmeriCANs be damned, HIS pride and HIS self image is what matters.
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Actually, it was Obama who got us into that group. He likes cesspools.
 
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GDViking said:
Haven't seen the news lately have you?
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I see the news all the time.
 
Re: Trump administration withdrawing from UN Human Rights Council

Ikari said:
Are we violating Human Rights? Why would the UN HRC be against us?
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The human rights counsel is a bigoted joke that does little to nothing to actually address human rights abuses. Given their reasoning in the announcement, it was right for the US to withdraw from the hypocritical anti-Israel club. I agree with Nikki Haley and her strong condemnation, it's "a protector of human rights abusers, and a cesspool of political bias."
 
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X Factor said:
What I really don’t understand is why we’re supposed to just be ok with vilified all the time.
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I can only speak for myself here. I'm not a fragile little snowflake. I don't run away just because someone may say something mean I don't like to hear. I'll stay and fight/make sure my voice is heard and practice what I preach for anything I'm passionate about. Human Rights are one of them.
 
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Serenity said:
I can only speak for myself here. I'm not a fragile little snowflake. I don't run away just because someone may say something mean I don't like to hear. I'll stay and fight/make sure my voice is heard and practice what I preach for anything I'm passionate about. Human Rights are one of them.
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Nice speech but I know for a fact that you don’t like seeing your country bashed any more than I do mine.
 
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