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Former Trump operative Roger Stone met with Russian who wanted $2M for Clinton dirt

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/politics/roger-stone-henry-greenberg-michael-caputo/index.html
Conservative political provocateur Roger Stone met in May 2016 with a Russian who offered damaging information about Hillary Clinton in exchange for $2 million, Stone and former Trump campaign communications official Michael Caputo told CNN on Sunday.

Stone and Caputo say the meeting was part of a larger effort by law enforcement to set up the Trump campaign, citing records suggesting that the man Stone met with is a Russian national who has claimed to be an FBI informant.

In letters to House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes obtained by CNN, lawyers for Caputo and Stone say Caputo arranged a meeting between Stone and the Russian man who called himself Henry Greenberg.
Caputo's lawyer writes that his client facilitated the meeting through his Russian business partner. Greenberg told Caputo he "had information about Hillary Clinton he wanted to provide to the Trump campaign," the letter says.
Caputo and Stone did not disclose the meeting to congressional investigators, but it has become a focus in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into the Trump campaign, according to the Post.
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"In the course of his interview with the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, this specific contact was not discussed since at the time of this interview, Mr. Caputo had simply forgotten about this brief encounter in 2016," the letter states.
Caputo's lawyer relayed that he would be willing to brief the committee on the matter.
In his letter to Nunes, Stone's lawyer similarly called the testimony "entirely truthful," adding that Stone "feels obligated" to disclose the meeting because of "information brought to his attention after his appearance."

The letter states Greenberg approached Stone "wearing a Trump MAGA hat and T-shirt and spoke with what was possibly a Russian accent."
"Prior to meeting, Mr. Stone did not know anything about Mr. Greenberg, including his background or nationality. At the meeting, Mr. Greenberg proudly showed Mr. Stone photos of Mr. Greenberg and friends at several South Florida Trump rallies," the letter states.
Stone's lawyer described the encounter as a "one-time, 20-minute interaction" and stated that Greenberg offered Stone the "non-specific, damaging Clinton information" in exchange for a $2 million payment from Trump, but that Stone declined.
Stone told CNN he was disclosing the meeting now because "Mr. Caputo only brought this to my attention recently."
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So, this meeting (which is even worse than the Trump Tower meeting), was not disclosed in Stone's sworn testimony before Congress, which means that Stone can be cited for perjury and obstruction if that can be established.

Interesting what Trump campaign members "forget" and then remember again, after their sworn testimony is behind them.:roll:

This sure sounds like criminal conspiracy at this point, but that's my take.
 
MovingPictures said:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/politics/roger-stone-henry-greenberg-michael-caputo/index.html




So, this meeting (which is even worse than the Trump Tower meeting), was not disclosed in Stone's sworn testimony before Congress, which means that Stone can be cited for perjury and obstruction if that can be established.

Interesting what Trump campaign members "forget" and then remember again, after their sworn testimony is behind them.:roll:

This sure sounds like criminal conspiracy at this point, but that's my take.
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They both forgot about a 2 mil payment required for dirt on Clinton. They are putting their own BS spin on it.
Needless to say Mueller knows of this.
 
On what date did Stone alert the FBI or some other authorities to this offer from the Russians?
 
JANFU said:
They both forgot about a 2 mil payment required for dirt on Clinton. They are putting their own BS spin on it.
Needless to say Mueller knows of this.
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This isn't illegal. So what if Mueller knows.
 
With the number of assholes Trump surrounds himself, is it any wonder that he is in deep ****?
 
apdst said:
This isn't illegal. So what if Mueller knows.
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Actually, the prospect of offering money qualifies it as a possible financial bribe, as part of a conspiracy to hide this from the FBI and FEC.
 
apdst said:
This isn't illegal. So what if Mueller knows.
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If it is illegal behavior by the Trump campaign and its advisors, would you care to propose a scenario that is actually damning to the Obama's or Clinton's? After reading this story, my initial reflections were on how the Obama's and the Clinton's were doing something even worse. Would you care to help a brotha out?
 
Winston said:
If it is illegal behavior by the Trump campaign and its advisors, would you care to propose a scenario that is actually damning to the Obama's or Clinton's? After reading this story, my initial reflections were on how the Obama's and the Clinton's were doing something even worse. Would you care to help a brotha out?
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Sounds like we might agree.
 
haymarket said:
yeah - why queer the deal for the guy he was supporting?

Screw patriotism!!!! :doh:roll::shock:
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Funny how you don't have a problem with Clinton buying (actually buying) dirt (false dirt) from the Russians. Should we be surprised?
 
MovingPictures said:
Actually, the prospect of offering money qualifies it as a possible financial bribe, as part of a conspiracy to hide this from the FBI and FEC.
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Purchasing information isn't a crime. The FBI nor the FEC have any reason to know about it, so there's no conspiracy.
 
Then, there's this...lol...

From the OP...citing records suggesting that the man Stone met with is a Russian national who has claimed to be an FBI informant.
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Sounds like a bargain considering HRC paid 5.4 million to foreign agents to fabricate dirt on Trump.
 
VanceMack said:
Sounds like a bargain considering HRC paid 5.4 million to foreign agents to fabricate dirt on Trump.
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This is a lie that doesn't even merit a response.
 
apdst said:
Funny how you don't have a problem with Clinton buying (actually buying) dirt (false dirt) from the Russians. Should we be surprised?
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Funny how you still don't seem to grasp how these things are not even remotely comparable. Clinton did not buy dirt from Russians. If you believe otherwise, kindly tell us the name of the Russian that met with Clinton or any of her senior campaign aides. Names please.
 
Stone met Greenberg — who was wearing a “Make America Great Again” hat and T-shirt — at a restaurant in Sunny Isles, Florida, in late May 2016. The plan was for Stone to vet the information Greenberg was offering. Whatever that supposed Clinton dirt was, Stone told the Post that Greenberg offered to sell it to Trump for $2 million, but that he dismissed the offer, telling Greenberg that Trump “doesn’t pay for anything.” In a text exchange with Caputo following the meeting, Stone said that Greenberg “wants big &$ for the info” before calling the meeting a “waste of time” and telling Caputo that he heard nothing of interest. Stone told the Post that he attended the meeting to practice “due diligence” on something it would have been “political malpractice” for the Trump team to ignore. Caputo claims that Greenberg’s Russian accent didn’t seem important to him at the time, since links to Russia were not yet a major issue for the Trump campaign.
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Roger Stone Met With Russian Who Promised Clinton Dirt

Sounds fine to me, better than fine actually.

“Trump doesn’t pay for anything.”

:thumbs:
 
apdst said:
Purchasing information isn't a crime. The FBI nor the FEC have any reason to know about it, so there's no conspiracy.
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FEC law prohibits "anything of value" from being taken from a foreign national, or any services being provided by that foreign national.

Though it would be up to Mueller as to whether this case warrants prosecution.
 
I'm completely lost here. Based on what I read, the Greenberg guy, who did, at one point, work with the FBI, approached Caputo through a mutual acquaintance. Greenberg offered to sell "dirt" on Clinton and Stone declined the offer. Therefore, and here's what confuses me, we have further evidence that Trump was working with Putin to win the election. How does that work?

If someone is introduced to me through a friend and offers to sell me dirt on a business competitor and I refuse the deal then how the hell am I guilty of anything?
 
upsideguy said:
Funny how you still don't seem to grasp how these things are not even remotely comparable. Clinton did not buy dirt from Russians. If you believe otherwise, kindly tell us the name of the Russian that met with Clinton or any of her senior campaign aides. Names please.
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The DNC/Clinton Campaign paid for information from foreign nationals. They paid for that "thing of value".
 
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