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As Paul Manafort Goes to jail, Rudy Giuliani Suggests Trump Could Issue Pardons

prometeus said:
I did not say he had the authority, but based on your argument he could do it without consequences and it was not an argument but an example to refute your assertion which you clearly can not support.
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No doubt in such a circumstance the president would be impeached, convicted and removed from office.
 
haymarket said:
It does not matter if it is Congress or some other lawful investigator - and that would be Robert Mueller as empowered by the awful authorities.
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Mr. Mueller works for the Executive Dept.
It has no authority over impeachment.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Mr. Mueller works for the Executive Dept.
It has no authority over impeachment.
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He will certainly make his findings known and it could damn well lead to impeachment.

But then, you knew that all along.
 
haymarket said:
He will certainly make his findings known and it could damn well lead to impeachment.

But then, you knew that all along.
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Maybe so.
But in such a circumstance, we both know Congress will insist upon its own investigation, and review as to what Mueller presents.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
LOL! This isn't even remotely in the same universe as Watergate. To try and pretend that it is is to display ignorance of what Watergate was.

Nixon PERSONALLY authorized a Federal crime. Then he PERSONALLY destroyed evidence of that crime and PERSONALLY organized a coverup of that crime.

So far NOTHING is a federal crime or a coverup of a crime and NOTHING reaches remotely to a the nonsensical bull**** you're implying.

This is going to be a very sad year for those forced to rely on fantasy scenarios in order to avoid the facts.
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Incredible!

Are you seriously asserting the Hillary did not have a private server in her private residence and that she did not communicate with various people employed by the government over the course of years?

That she did not organize the installation of that server using and likely directing the services of others?

That she did not direct or otherwise allow the destruction of communication devices in concert with people who reported to her?

That there were not 30,000 emails under subpoena that were destroyed by her or at her direction that were subsequently never produced to the Congress?

There are various Federal Crimes in that laundry list and various conspiracies and various cover ups. The cover ups were actually executed in concert with and by the FBI.

If Nixon was a Democrat, Watergate would be only a hotel.
 
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code1211 said:
Incredible!

Are you seriously asserting the Hillary did not have a private server in her private residence and that she did not communicate with various people employed by the government over the course of years?

That she did not organize the installation of that server using and likely directing the services of others?

That she did not direct or otherwise allow the destruction of communication devices in concert with people who reported to her?

That there were not 30,000 emails under subpoena that were destroyed by her or at her direction that were subsequently never produced to the Congress?

There are various Federal Crimes in that laundry list and various conspiracies and various cover ups. The cover ups were actually executed in concert with and by the FBI.

If Nixon was a Democrat, Watergate would be only a hotel.
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Yawn.

Tell ya what, you go on desperately clinging to your narrative about this being worse than Watergate, and I'll go with the actual findings about what Hillary did.

This is going to a rough year for you, I fear.
 
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