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Comey Cited as Insubordinate, but Report Finds No Bias in F.B.I. Decision to Clear Clinton

Atomic Kid said:
No what SouthernDemocrat posted is indeed true. The Times and Mother Jones stories all had to with Manafort's connections with the pro-Russian government in the Ukraine before he became up Trump's campaign manager. Which even an amateur sleuth probably could have and should have turned up. There was not a whisper of there being an open FBI investigation of the Trump campaign made by either them. It's fairly clear from the IG's report that in nearly every instance where the FBI either took an action or didn't take an action. The the net effect was harm to Clinton to the benefit of Trump.
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That is the irony of it all. It shows how desperate to discredit the rule of law they are and the reason is they know Trump is guilty and they want him to skate anyway. It is deplorable as Hillary would say.
 
No, up until now Trump supporters have been waiting patiently for the report, which appears to ignore the internal Szrock/Page FBI memos admitting to efforts/plans to keep Trump out of the White House. THAT is what disrupted my "faith" in his work, and earned him the "partisan hack" title, unless, of course, you have a more cogent explanation for that omission.
 
j-mac said:
They had nothing to do with each other....

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And the Benghazi investigations investigations had nothing to do the email investions or the Trump/Russia investigations.

Each investigation Is different and each are handled differently.
The email server case is different than cases that involve foreign countries/influences.
 
smallvoice said:
No, up until now Trump supporters have been waiting patiently for the report, which appears to ignore the internal Szrock/Page FBI memos admitting to efforts/plans to keep Trump out of the White House. THAT is what disrupted my "faith" in his work, and earned him the "partisan hack" title, unless, of course, you have a more cogent explanation for that omission.
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There were no FBI memos to keep Trump from becoming President. Just hopeful texts between two lovers who believed that the polls predicting a Clinton win 2016 were correct.

(I was told it was a total of 12 texts over an 11 month period.)

From an article I read:


Even if “there was something he could actually do, he was one gear in a big machine,” former FBI agent Frank Montoya Jr. told me on Thursday night. “He could make recommendations, he could advocate for different courses of action, but he was just one among many in a team that could do that. He was not the senior decision-maker.” Montoya made a similar point to one that Strzok and Page made to investigators, according to the report: While the Trump investigation was kept a secret, the Clinton investigation was effectively reopened just days before the election. “If Strzok really wanted to ‘stop’ Trump before the election, why not leak the Russia investigation?” Montoya asked. Still, he said, “while everyone, even FBI employees, have right to an opinion, his texts were dumb. No other way to color it.”
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https://firenewsfeed.com/politics/1680968
 
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MTAtech said:
That's a preposterous argument, which is essentially, 'if Hillary Clinton committed a crime and was charges, she wouldn't be a candidate.' The operative idea is that she did not commit a crime and, therefore, was NOT charged.

Meanwhile, the FBI was silent on the fact that Russia was interfering with the election in order to assist Trump.
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"Operative idea"? Good grief...you really do think that everyone thinks as you do, don't You? :doh

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Fenton said:
The bolded is just not true. Both the NYTs and Mother Jones leaked details of the FBIs investigation into Trumps alleged ties with Russian officials in October 2016, a month before the election. This leak was obviously politically motivated and timed to do the most damage to Trumps chances of winning in Nobvember
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Link to that timeline and why do you think that the FBI announced the re-opening of the e-mail investigation but never announce that they were investigating Russian collusion with Trump. And don't say it was because it was illegal because it is not. I believe it was because of anti-Hilary bias mostly in the NY FBI office.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/02/james-comey-fbi-director-letter
 
iguanaman said:
Link to that timeline and why do you think that the FBI announced the re-opening of the e-mail investigation but never announce that they were investigating Russian collusion with Trump. And don't say it was because it was illegal because it is not. I believe it was because of anti-Hilary bias mostly in the NY FBI office.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/02/james-comey-fbi-director-letter
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And also because of Trump's whining that the election was rigged against him. The FBI response, either knowingly or not, was to be gentler on Trump.
 
MTAtech said:
And also because of Trump's whining that the election was rigged against him. The FBI response, either knowingly or not, was to be gentler on Trump.
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Was this specified in the IG report, or are you just making it up?
 
Fletch said:
Was this specified in the IG report, or are you just making it up?
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The IG report was on the email investigation and Comey but still the most egregious offense he was cited for was something that benefited Trump. Are you that clueless?
 
iguanaman said:
The IG report was on the email investigation and Comey but still the most egregious offense he was cited for was something that benefited Trump. Are you that clueless?
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So, just like MATech, you arent able to back up your assertions with links to the IG report. Got it.
 
Fletch said:
So, just like MATech, you arent able to back up your assertions with links to the IG report. Got it.
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Read the report yourself and rebut my comments about it then. Dunce-ism is now a Trumpist thing?
 
eohrnberger said:
Very true, however, the IG's report doesn't address how Trump's investigation was treated, only how Hillary's email investigation was conducted, and the serious flaws in its execution.
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And the only really criticized ACTION that was cited was Comey's statement about the reopening of the e-mail investigation which helped Trump. The rest was about personal bias that had no evidence of any action that went with it.
 
Fletch said:
So you are just spouting crap then. Fair enough.
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No you are the one spouting crap because you are too lazy or scared to actually read what was in the report. The only bias that resulted in concrete action was the anti-Hillary bias in the NY FBI office. They coerced Comey to make the statement about the e-mail investigation by leaking it to Guiliani who bragged about knowing about 2 days before it was made.

Rudy Giuliani said Friday that he knew the FBI planned to review more emails tied to Hillary Clinton before a public announcement about the investigation last week, confirming that the agency leaked information to Donald Trump’s presidential campaign.
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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rudy-giuliani-fbi-clinton-emails_us_581c9e3fe4b0e80b02c93d6b
 
iguanaman said:
No you are the one spouting crap because you are too lazy or scared to actually read what was in the report. The only bias that resulted in concrete action was the anti-Hillary bias in the NY FBI office. They coerced Comey to make the statement about the e-mail investigation by leaking it to Guiliani who bragged about knowing about 2 days before it was made.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rudy-giuliani-fbi-clinton-emails_us_581c9e3fe4b0e80b02c93d6b
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Thats nice, but its not what we were talking about. We were discussing whether or not 'The FBI response, either knowingly or not, was to be gentler on Trump.' Until you can address that you are just posting irrelevant crap
 
iguanaman said:
No you are the one spouting crap because you are too lazy or scared to actually read what was in the report. The only bias that resulted in concrete action was the anti-Hillary bias in the NY FBI office. They coerced Comey to make the statement about the e-mail investigation by leaking it to Guiliani who bragged about knowing about 2 days before it was made.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rudy-giuliani-fbi-clinton-emails_us_581c9e3fe4b0e80b02c93d6b
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From what I've heard it was the NY PD which discovered the additional Hillary emails on Weiner's / Huma's laptop during Weiner's criminal sexting investigation, which forced Comey and the FBI into that letter that Comey sent to congress. This would seem to make a bit more sense than alleged and probably non-existent anti-Hillary bias in the NY FBI office.
 
minnie616 said:
Do you equate racial bias as equal to political bias?
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They are similar, we recognize racism as something abhorrent because it discriminates based on an innate condition, likewise sexism, disability, national origin and homosexuality (with all the variations). Discriminating due to other conditions like religious faith or socioeconomic status, while not innate, are legally discouraged. Political affiliation, like religious faith, is an acquired condition, but should not be the basis for discrimination either. I'm sure everyone would agree the FBI shouldn't treat suspects differently based on their political affiliation, yet this is essentially what we experience now.
 
eohrnberger said:
From what I've heard it was the NY PD which discovered the additional Hillary emails on Weiner's / Huma's laptop during Weiner's criminal sexting investigation, which forced Comey and the FBI into that letter that Comey sent to congress. This would seem to make a bit more sense than alleged and probably non-existent anti-Hillary bias in the NY FBI office.
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What about the leaks to Guiliani about it? That doesn't show bias as well as being illegal? It was likely done to force Comey to do something that was cited in the IG report as a failure to follow FBI policy? I am getting tired of explaining the obvious to dunces or people feigning to be dunces.
 
Fletch said:
Thats nice, but its not what we were talking about. We were discussing whether or not 'The FBI response, either knowingly or not, was to be gentler on Trump.' Until you can address that you are just posting irrelevant crap
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I just cited an event that was not only gentler on Trump but an outright GIFT to him. Your continued willful ignorance is noted.
 
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Plus Ultra said:
They are similar, we recognize racism as something abhorrent because it discriminates based on an innate condition, likewise sexism, disability, national origin and homosexuality (with all the variations). Discriminating due to other conditions like religious faith or socioeconomic status, while not innate, are legally discouraged. Political affiliation, like religious faith, is an acquired condition, but should not be the basis for discrimination either. I'm sure everyone would agree the FBI shouldn't treat suspects differently based on their political affiliation, yet this is essentially what we experience now.
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I agree and extorting Comey to break policy about commenting on ongoing investigations is an extreme example of bias that resulted in actions. The leaking of the reopening of the e-mail investigation to Guiliani needs to be thoroughly and the leakers in the NY office need to be prosecuted.
 
iguanaman said:
I just cited an event that was not only gentler on Trump but an outright GIFT to him. Your continued ignorance is noted.
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Nice try, but that is just a lie. You posted something that had nothing to do with what was being discussed and rather than admit it, you just double down and lie about it. And you criticize Trump for dishonesty. Lol I suspect your next move, Mr Kettle, is to make fun of blackness of Mr. Pot.
 
Fletch said:
Nice try, but that is just a lie. You posted something that had nothing to do with what was being discussed and rather than admit it, you just double down and lie about it. And you criticize Trump for dishonesty. Lol I suspect your next move, Mr Kettle, is to make fun of blackness of Mr. Pot.
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In other words Bias in favor of your Dear Leader doesn't count. How cultish of you.
 
iguanaman said:
No, there has never been so many children ripped from their parents at the border and Trump has stated that they are being used as hostages to extort the Democrats in Congress into bending to his whim. I don't think that will play well with voters in November. I also do not think that destroying the functions of the EPA, Dept. of Education and the other vital agencies by putting foxes in every henhouse is anything but making Govt. work worse. His gutting of the State Dept. will have lasting repercussions on our standing in the world too. And I didn't even get to the corruption of his cabinet members who view Govt. as their own personal piggybank. The fact that you are blind to all this is also no surprise since you have given up all moral authority to blind allegiance to a lifetime criminal who takes contributions purported to be for Veterans and uses them to fund hihis campaign.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/16/opinions/trump-foundation-scandal-opinion-snell/index.html
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CNN? Seriously?

Aren't these the same guys that put up a picture of kids in cages from the Obama era, claiming it was present day?

Yes, children who's parents made the bad decision of illegally crossing the border are being detained, as per Federal law, passed by Democrats controlled congress, if I recall.

Realistically, why would the parents of these children make decisions that could lead to this outcome? Better for their children if they'd enter the country legally, wouldn't it be?

They are most certainly not in cages.

New York Times reporter on Casa Padre facility: 'It's packed, but not overcrowded'

Casa Padre: Inside the Texas shelter holding immigrant children

The 'news' (political propaganda) media and their TDS fixation are once again doing a disservice to the electorate, not that it's a surprise to anyone paying any attention or an outright political party hack.

The congress, and Dems especially, are going to have to own up their responsibility of this mess, and fix it. So far, the Dems have put their politics above the concerns of both DACA and now illegals and their children. When are they going to actually do what they've been elected to office for?
 
The notion leaks on the disposition of Weiner's laptop prove the FBI was anti-Hillary is ridiculous.
 
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