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Comey Cited as Insubordinate, but Report Finds No Bias in F.B.I. Decision to Clear Clinton

apdst said:
Only a partisan hack would think the email investigation wasn't rigged in Clinton's favor.
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Sorry the IG report didn't give you the red meat needed to sate your conspiracy theories.
 
poweRob said:
The difference is vast. I trust our intel and our intel has trusted steele for a long time. You trust donald's word all while he and his clan have been lying their collective asses off about it all. Steele wasn't trying to subvert our intel agencies by trying to establish direct communications with high ranking russian officials with back channel communications owned by russians out of reach of our intel like your heroes here. Steele was gathering information. Trump administration was about far more than that.

The lengths you go to obfuscate this issue have gone well beyond dishonest.
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LOL!! Steel didn't need to "establish direct communications with high ranking russian officials with back channel communications owned by russians" ... as a former MI6 spy who specialized in Russia he already had them established! Some might go so far as to say that those connections are what Steel is actually paid for! You pay Steel because he has connections in the Kremlin, not for his souffle recpes..
 
jmotivator said:
LOL!! Steel didn't need to "establish direct communications with high ranking russian officials with back channel communications owned by russians" ... as a former MI6 spy who specialized in Russia he already had them established! Some might go so far as to say that those connections are what Steel is actually paid for! You pay Steel because he has connections in the Kremlin, not for his souffle recpes..
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More conflation. Was steele trying to subvert our elections?
 
haymarket said:
Those were pillow talk words from one Trump hater to the other to reassure them. What ACTIONS did they take in the performance of their duties that was wrong or illegal?
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Planting a spy in the Trump campaign. Illegal surveillance. Illegal investigation. Illegally unmasking names surveilled through FISA warrants.

Those are just the things we know of. There's no telling what we'll find out as the investigation continues.
 
poweRob said:
Sorry the IG report didn't give you the red meat needed to sate your conspiracy theories.
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It not only gave us red meat, it's dripping blood. :lamo
 
poweRob said:
Much of the dossier has been proven true and the rest has not been proven true or false. So anyone saying or implying that it has been debunked is a liar. You fail like you always do.
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Lay out for us what has been proven true, then we can judge.....Better yet, that might be better in a thread of its own...Go start one and I'll be happy to join in....

But, if you don't want to lose debates, then don't use logical fallacies....Not hard stuff.
 
poweRob said:
More conflation. Was steele trying to subvert our elections?
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He was paid to create an oppo report against a US candidate for president using Russian Kremlin contacts, so yes.
 
trouble13 said:
Sorry but that, I got a new device and it has a mind of it's own. Here's what I tried to say:

The problem I have is if he first believed Trump was working with the Russians then why would Comey do anything that he thought might give Trump some kind of advantage?

It's one of many things that does not make any sense to me

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I467 using Tapatalk
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Well, imagine if you were in his position during that time. Mind you, I don't agree with his decision one bit. I think his decision was horrendous. But I can follow the rationale even if I think it was absolutely terrible.
 
vesper said:
You must be blind in one eye and can't see out of the other.
Anyone who reads that report can tell through Horowitz that the Email investigation was a sham and gave Clinton an out at every turn. Now compare that with the way Trump, members of his campaign and transition team have been treated. The majority of people will see a huge difference wanting to know what happened to equal justice under the law. The level of animosity SA Strzok displayed against Trump while he was in charge of both investigations now taints every decision he made in regard to the Trump investigation and will have to be scrutinized.
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So you’re saying that the report, which specifically was tasked with looking at the investigation, shows the investigation was a sham, but they just....forgot to mention how bad it was in the report?

And they just clearly say it was a sham, but do not recommend opening it up again or say that Comey was wrong in not prosecuting it?

I think you wasted your time reading this. Stick to Harlequin romances.
 
poweRob said:
The difference is vast. I trust our intel and our intel has trusted steele for a long time. You trust donald's word all while he and his clan have been lying their collective asses off about it all. Steele wasn't trying to subvert our intel agencies by trying to establish direct communications with high ranking russian officials with back channel communications owned by russians out of reach of our intel like your heroes here. Steele was gathering information. Trump administration was about far more than that.

The lengths you go to obfuscate this issue have gone well beyond dishonest.
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*The difference is vast. I trust our intel*

The same Intel that gave us WMD's in Iraq.
 
apdst said:
Planting a spy in the Trump campaign. Illegal surveillance. Illegal investigation. Illegally unmasking names surveilled through FISA warrants.

Those are just the things we know of. There's no telling what we'll find out as the investigation continues.
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Morning adpst...ever notice how every one of these facts is either dismissed, or ad hom attacked as "conspiracy theory" or some such drivel, but every wild accusation they make is automatic fact?

How do we even have a conversation going forward...No way in RL that any of us would converse with someone that delusional for any length of time...But in here we are expected to keep coming back time after time for the same nonsense...It really is proplexing....What the hell are we doing here?
 
jmotivator said:
He was paid to create an oppo report against a US candidate for president using Russian Kremlin contacts, so yes.
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Wow... Just wow.

Our intel trust MI6 intel officer who had always had good intel results. And now you say that he was subverting our elections with his connections that have a history of nothing but truth. And this is all the same as trump administration making direct communications with high ranking russian government officials to spread lies.

You are so deep there is no helping you.
 
apdst said:
It not only gave us red meat, it's dripping blood. :lamo
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Might want to tell trump that. He's crying today about how the report was wrong.
 
Threegoofs said:
And they just clearly say it was a sham, but do not recommend opening it up again or say that Comey was wrong in not prosecuting it?
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Comey was FBI, not DoJ...So, Comey wouldn't have prosecuted anything...That was the main thrust of the IG rebuking Comey....You don't seem to even know how any of this works, so why are you commenting on it?
 
poweRob said:
Wow... Just wow.
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You can't argue with the truth.

Our intel trust MI6 intel officer who had always had good intel results. And now you say that he was subverting our elections with his connections that have a history of nothing but truth. And this is all the same as trump administration making direct communications with high ranking russian government officials to spread lies.
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And by that we can extrapolate that our intel trusts Kremlin officials. Glad we had this chat, it's been very enlightening. :lamo

You are so deep there is no helping you.
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Nah, I just have an immune system that rejects Russian propaganda.
 
j-mac said:
Lay out for us what has been proven true, then we can judge.....Better yet, that might be better in a thread of its own...Go start one and I'll be happy to join in....

But, if you don't want to lose debates, then don't use logical fallacies....Not hard stuff.
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Nothing I said was a logical fallacy nor untrue. You guys say the dossier has been debunked all the time. This is a lie. I merely cleared the air of your lies. Simple as that.
 
tres borrachos said:
I predict you and your wife will be spending Christmas in jail.
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aaaah.... memories of the late Sixties and how we used to spend Christmas when Nixon was president. ;)
 
jmotivator said:
At most, I think I only really need to hear your bogus interpretation of the law once, and that is just a courtesy.
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So it never does sink in for you. Got it.
 
Threegoofs said:
So you’re saying that the report, which specifically was tasked with looking at the investigation, shows the investigation was a sham, but they just....forgot to mention how bad it was in the report?

And they just clearly say it was a sham, but do not recommend opening it up again or say that Comey was wrong in not prosecuting it?

I think you wasted your time reading this. Stick to Harlequin romances.
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Essentially the whole thing came down to the fact that the IG found that there was no evidence against Clinton and it was appropriate to drop charges. Comey acted inappropriately in his press conference, and while there are some people at the FBI who do not like Trump (though who could blame them), political bias played no roles in the investigations.
 
hanger4 said:
*The difference is vast. I trust our intel*

The same Intel that gave us WMD's in Iraq.
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Yes. The ones who've actually made mistakes before in their history and I still trust them far more than russian intel. Now that you've established that you don't trust American intelligence, who exactly do you trust again?
 
poweRob said:
Nothing I said was a logical fallacy...
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Full stop....I pointed it out, and laid out the very definition that your own words met....I swear, it's like your wife catching you in a full on passionate kiss with her sister, and while your arms are still around the sister, you are telling the wife that you weren't kissing her....:roll:
 
apdst said:
Planting a spy in the Trump campaign. Illegal surveillance. Illegal investigation. Illegally unmasking names surveilled through FISA warrants.

Those are just the things we know of. There's no telling what we'll find out as the investigation continues.
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Strzok and Page did all that!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock::doh:roll:
 
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