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Trump mulling 3,000 pardons, including Ali

Is this a joke? He can't pardon Ali. There's nothing to pardon!
 
NonoBadDog said:
You don't like Muhammad Ali? What did he to you? Is it because he's black or that he didn't fight in the Vietnam War? I have always thought about him as a shining example of a person that sticks by his principles regardless of the consequences. I have nothing but admiration for him. If anyone deserves a pardon it is Muhammad Ali.
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I'm 100% with you here with Ali. He has my highest admiration, and I do consider him a personal hero. But unfortunately, there's nothing to pardon; Ali's conviction was overturned on appeal. Trump is playing the public, here. Or he's really lost.
 
PeteEU said:
Ali was already pardoned and aquitted..decades ago.

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Yep. Trump is playing us, here. Or he's totally oblivious to reality.
 
Chomsky said:
I'm 100% with you here with Ali. He has my highest admiration, and I do consider him a personal hero. But unfortunately, there's nothing to pardon; Ali's conviction was overturned on appeal. Trump is playing the public, here. Or he's really lost.
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Second time that you have said the same thing.
 
NonoBadDog said:
You don't like Muhammad Ali? What did he to you? Is it because he's black or that he didn't fight in the Vietnam War? I have always thought about him as a shining example of a person that sticks by his principles regardless of the consequences. I have nothing but admiration for him. If anyone deserves a pardon it is Muhammad Ali.
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Ali had no crimes for which he needs a pardon. What would he be pardoned for?
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.reuters.com/video/2018/...ncluding-ali?videoId=434066316&videoChannel=1

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Friday he is considering pardoning some 3,000 people, including late boxing champion Muhammad Ali.
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Wow. Think of 3,000 photo ops with him signing the pardons in the OO in front of a crowd of reporters.
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The stupidity of Trump's Ali statement came immediately to mind when he said what he did. Ali didn't do anything to be pardoned for. Trump will still do it for, as you say, the photo op. After all, he believes his power of the pardon is absolute. Didn't Clinton pardon a turkey once on Thanksgiving?
 
Trump may even pardon Grey Poupon
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.reuters.com/video/2018/...ncluding-ali?videoId=434066316&videoChannel=1

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Friday he is considering pardoning some 3,000 people, including late boxing champion Muhammad Ali.
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Wow. Think of 3,000 photo ops with him signing the pardons in the OO in front of a crowd of reporters.
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Nothing but the socialism of command economics. Where are the fine Capital plans, that were alleged by the right?
 
danielpalos said:
Nothing but the socialism of command economics. Where are the fine Capital plans, that were alleged by the right?
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Point me to the basement sir, if you would. I'm new here. No, no happy ending massage. I don't swing that way.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.reuters.com/video/2018/...ncluding-ali?videoId=434066316&videoChannel=1

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Friday he is considering pardoning some 3,000 people, including late boxing champion Muhammad Ali.
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Wow. Think of 3,000 photo ops with him signing the pardons in the OO in front of a crowd of reporters.
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If Only,

our candidate has simply stated, she was willing to macth the right, but do it for ten percent less and help with social costs.
 
danielpalos said:
yeah, right; wait until i get into a new stripper girlfriend; who loves to break in the new guys.
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I'm all out of "The free chicks" where's the basement? Link me, pls.

PS: I wish you would get into a new stripper GF. Can you handle that she grinds on other dudes' Johnsons all day?
 
NonoBadDog said:
You don't like Muhammad Ali? What did he to you? Is it because he's black or that he didn't fight in the Vietnam War? I have always thought about him as a shining example of a person that sticks by his principles regardless of the consequences. I have nothing but admiration for him. If anyone deserves a pardon it is Muhammad Ali.
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Of course, Mohommad Ali's family says he doesn't need a pardon. But, never mind that.
 
NonoBadDog said:
From the Obama White House archives in just one day:

President Obama Has Now Granted More Commutations than Any President in this Nation’s History

Today, 273 individuals learned that the President has given them a second chance. With today’s 209 grants of commutation, the President has now commuted the sentences of 1,385 individuals – the most grants of commutation issued by any President in this nation’s history. President Obama’s 1,385 commutation grants – which includes 504 life sentences – is also more than the total number of commutations issued by the past 12 presidents combined. And with today’s 64 pardons, the President has now granted a total of 212 pardons.

Today, 209 commutation recipients – including 109 individuals who had believed they would live out their remaining days in prison – learned that they will be rejoining their families and loved ones, and 64 pardon recipients learned that their past convictions have been forgiven. These 273 individuals learned that our nation is a forgiving nation, where hard work and a commitment to rehabilitation can lead to a second chance, and where wrongs from the past will not deprive an individual of the opportunity to move forward. Today, 273 individuals – like President Obama’s 1,324 clemency recipients before them – learned that our President has found them deserving of a second chance.

While the mercy the President has shown his 1,597 clemency recipients is remarkable, we must remember that clemency is an extraordinary remedy, granted only after the President has concluded that a particular individual has demonstrated a readiness to make use of his or her second chance. Only Congress can achieve the broader reforms needed to ensure over the long run that our criminal justice system operates more fairly and effectively in the service of public safety.
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.go...re-commutations-any-president-nations-history

President Obama Has Now Granted More Commutations than Any President in this Nation’s History

"Today, 273 individuals learned that the President has given them a second chance. With today’s 209 grants of commutation, the President has now commuted the sentences of 1,385 individuals – the most grants of commutation issued by any President in this nation’s history. President Obama’s 1,385 commutation grants – which includes 504 life sentences – is also more than the total number of commutations issued by the past 12 presidents combined. And with today’s 64 pardons, the President has now granted a total of 212 pardons."

"While the mercy the President has shown his 1,597 clemency recipients is remarkable, we must remember that clemency is an extraordinary remedy, granted only after the President has concluded that a particular individual has demonstrated a readiness to make use of his or her second chance. Only Congress can achieve the broader reforms needed to ensure over the long run that our criminal justice system operates more fairly and effectively in the service of public safety."

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.go...re-commutations-any-president-nations-history

He isn't doing anything other presidents haven't done. Just more evidence of TDS gone wild.
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You do know you are mixing up clemency and pardons, don't you. They are not the same thing.
 
Marion Morrison said:
I'm all out of "The free chicks" where's the basement? Link me, pls.

PS: I wish you would get into a new stripper GF. Can you handle that she grinds on other dudes' Johnsons all day?
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sure; if she is willing to pay her poon tax for relationship representation.

i had to update my "rules of engagement"; i usually ignore women in public, if all of the other ones aren't already doing me in private.

equality and equal rights in modern times, right.
 
RAMOSS said:
You do know you are mixing up clemency and pardons, don't you. They are not the same thing.
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Did you read the quotes?
Today, 273 individuals learned that the President has given them a second chance. With today’s 209 grants of commutation, the President has now commuted the sentences of 1,385 individuals – the most grants of commutation issued by any President in this nation’s history. President Obama’s 1,385 commutation grants – which includes 504 life sentences – is also more than the total number of commutations issued by the past 12 presidents combined. And with today’s 64 pardons, the President has now granted a total of 212 pardons.
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Today, 209 commutation recipients – including 109 individuals who had believed they would live out their remaining days in prison – learned that they will be rejoining their families and loved ones, and 64 pardon recipients learned that their past convictions have been forgiven. These 273 individuals learned that our nation is a forgiving nation, where hard work and a commitment to rehabilitation can lead to a second chance, and where wrongs from the past will not deprive an individual of the opportunity to move forward. Today, 273 individuals – like President Obama’s 1,324 clemency recipients before them – learned that our President has found them deserving of a second chance.
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"Today, 273 individuals learned that the President has given them a second chance. With today’s 209 grants of commutation, the President has now commuted the sentences of 1,385 individuals – the most grants of commutation issued by any President in this nation’s history. President Obama’s 1,385 commutation grants – which includes 504 life sentences – is also more than the total number of commutations issued by the past 12 presidents combined. And with today’s 64 pardons, the President has now granted a total of 212 pardons."
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I didn't get pardons and clemency mixed up. You didn't read the post.
 
NonoBadDog said:
Did you read the quotes?




I didn't get pardons and clemency mixed up. You didn't read the post.
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Amd. half of the ones mentioned were commuting sentences, and 65 were pardons. One big difference between Trump and the previous administrations is that the previous administrations went through the DOJ approval process, and took the recommendations. Trump is doing it as a political tool, and a PR tool, and not following established procedure, or DOJ recommendations. It's a new toy for him, and he has to play
 
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