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Putin tells Europe on U.S. trade threat: 'I told you so'

WCH said:
He's looked everywhere and most of it gets leaked. Where is the evidence of Trump being Putin's pocket?
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Offer some proof for ****'s sakes. YOU can't possibly know either way so your troll posts are basically a waste of band width

Trump is not reliable, he lies and lies and lies. How the **** do you think anyone would believe what you say? You can't support Trump without supporting his lies, which, well it kind of makes you just as unreliable.

There's a huge cost for lying...
 
WCH said:
I thought you guys believed he was already in Russia's pocket?

BTW: just mentioning that sounds pretty friggin stupid.
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Their narrative changes every other week. :lol:
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-u-s-trade-threat-i-told-you-so-idUSKCN1J300B

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that he had warned European countries years ago about the risk of the United States imposing its rules on others, and that they were now paying the price for ignoring him.

Speaking during a live television phone-in with the Russian people that lasted over four hours, Putin likened the tariffs that Washington imposed last week on steel and aluminum imports from Canada, Mexico and the European Union to economic sanctions.
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While The Donald has nothing to say about Putin, the sentiment is not reciprocated.
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Donnie is getting played by Trump. It's really not surprising. I could see this coming. Putin has more to gain by Trump hurting our allies and international stability, than being friendly with Trump and the US. He also has Trump in his back pocket, so Putin has to be feeling really good, but he should not be trusted. If EU aligns with Putin, he will stab their backs, and keep invading.
 
The EU politcians are a bunch of hypocrits because they have only free trade between eu nembers and impose tariffs on countries outside of EU.
 
This has always been about breaking the US stranglehold on the world. Russia can't do it the economic way as they have smaller population. They can't do it militarily since that would defeat the whole purpose of domination... who would want to dominate over a dead world.

So what is left?

To weaken the US by divide and conquer methods. The US strength has always been 3 fold.

1) Population that gives economic and political power.
2) Military power that gives political power.
3) Allies.

Destroy one of these pillars and the two others weaken.

Russia cant destroy the size of the population. But it can destroy that populations stability, a stability that gives economic power. Hence influencing elections and setting opinions based on hatred and isolation. It splits the population and causes instability.

Russia can not destroy the military but it does not have too if the economy can't pay for it. They after all have experience of this.

Then there is the allies. Without them the pillars become very weak and the US turns into Russia or China and hence levels the playing field.

Trump is a pawn.. either as a willing corrupt one or a stupid manipulated one...either way Putin is getting his way.

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Vlissingen said:
The EU politcians are a bunch of hypocrits because they have only free trade between eu nembers and impose tariffs on countries outside of EU.
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Kinda the whole point of the EU..and US and Russia and so on.....

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iguanaman said:
Why? Because I am stating the obvious? The fools are the ones that can't see ****. It's a bad time to be our ally and our adversaries are laughing at us.
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Only because you're either not understanding what's actually happening or you just want to blow it out of proportion.

It comes down to America vs the Globalist who want to cut our feet out from under us.

Whose side are you on?
 
Fearandloathing said:
Now how stupid is that post?

If he's kept the evidence secret then no one but him and his staff know and you are supposedly an adult who would understand that.

No wonder Trump won
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And he continues to win.
 
PeteEU said:
This has always been about breaking the US stranglehold on the world. Russia can't do it the economic way as they have smaller population. They can't do it militarily since that would defeat the whole purpose of domination... who would want to dominate over a dead world.

So what is left?

To weaken the US by divide and conquer methods. The US strength has always been 3 fold.

1) Population that gives economic and political power.
2) Military power that gives political power.
3) Allies.

Destroy one of these pillars and the two others weaken.

Russia cant destroy the size of the population. But it can destroy that populations stability, a stability that gives economic power. Hence influencing elections and setting opinions based on hatred and isolation. It splits the population and causes instability.

Russia can not destroy the military but it does not have too if the economy can't pay for it. They after all have experience of this.

Then there is the allies. Without them the pillars become very weak and the US turns into Russia or China and hence levels the playing field.

Trump is a pawn.. either as a willing corrupt one or a stupid manipulated one...either way Putin is getting his way.

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What would our so called allies be without America? We saved their asses in the WWs.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Offer some proof for ****'s sakes. YOU can't possibly know either way so your troll posts are basically a waste of band width

Trump is not reliable, he lies and lies and lies. How the **** do you think anyone would believe what you say? You can't support Trump without supporting his lies, which, well it kind of makes you just as unreliable.

There's a huge cost for lying...
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Not interested in what you think of Trump. That's not what I call debate.
 
WCH said:
What would our so called allies be without America? We saved their asses in the WWs.
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And where would the US be without France.. you really want to do this tired old bull**** again?

Allies come and go if there is a common cause. From 45 to 89 that common cause was the US military boot on our backs. After 89 more and more European countries started to exert themselves and that comulated in the illegal Iraq war under Bush Jr. Here we saw the first massive division between allies. Ever since then, this division has been exploited by the far right and its allies.. like Putin... to further weaken countries internally, organisations like NATO and the EU and the bonds between countries. We have seen this before.. in the 1920s and 30s.
 
PeteEU said:
And where would the US be without France.. you really want to do this tired old bull**** again?

Allies come and go if there is a common cause. From 45 to 89 that common cause was the US military boot on our backs. After 89 more and more European countries started to exert themselves and that comulated in the illegal Iraq war under Bush Jr. Here we saw the first massive division between allies. Ever since then, this division has been exploited by the far right and its allies.. like Putin... to further weaken countries internally, organisations like NATO and the EU and the bonds between countries. We have seen this before.. in the 1920s and 30s.
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There are no such military divisions these days, only political ones from the Globalists slowing losing their grip on the world.
 
iguanaman said:
Most Trumpists think Putin is a better leader than Obama was. That does not make it true. Putin is a murdering thug.
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Obama did his share of taking lives as do most Presidents. Obama sucked as a leader in general.
 
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Russia loves Kompromat, it has been their thing for centuries.

But there are different levels of Kompromat. They will make thousands of small investments on the off chance that person will get successful.

But if it's somebody important, then they will make a serious effort. They made a serious effort with Trump.

The denials are funny to watch, but the reason the Republican party is going nuts over Mueller is because they know what will happen if Mueller gets this in a courtroom.
 
GDViking said:
Sure he was, he was already grooming trump and working on getting him in his pocket.
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Do you have any phone records, any emails connecting the two? It's not like Trump went and deleted 30,000 of them recently.
 
late said:
Russia loves Kompromat, it has been their thing for centuries.

But there are different levels of Kompromat. They will make thousands of small investments on the off chance that person will get successful.

But if it's somebody important, then they will make a serious effort. They made a serious effort with Trump.

The denials are funny to watch, but the reason the Republican party is going nuts over Mueller is because they know what will happen if Mueller gets this in a courtroom.
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The difference is, the Kompromat of old was clumsy. Today it is extremely sophisticated and weaponized.
 
WCH said:
Obama did his share of taking lives as do most Presidents. Obama sucked as a leader in general.
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I rest my case...You prefer an authoritarian dictator to our own system of Govt. There is no hope for you.
 
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