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Sen. Bob Corker defies Trump and unveils bill to check his ability to impose tariffs

ludin said:
wow.

He had one of the worst recoveries.
we were no were near a depression. stop using that as an excuse. 8 year later.
it is no longer an excuse.

then you are not paying attention to the economic numbers.
my only concern is that they are a little on the hot side and could cool off.

i see a market adjustment coming soon but that will be about it.
there is little indication that we are driving to a depression.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/a...g-theres-no-sign-of-a-us-recession-2018-06-05
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We were in the second largest economic collapse in history. We had the second slowest recovery in history, pretty much stands to reason doesn't it?

Also we did it by building the economy, not creating an artificial bubble. I hat is why the economy is still growing. Trumps policies have not had any effect but when they do they will be disastrous.
 
Pedestrian said:
For national security. Canada or Europe or both...could invade anytime.
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The national security reasons which Trump if he had the ability to explain would be this

In a time of war or crisis, the ability to produce the steel and aluminum domestically required to support the military is a vital aspect of national security. Having to rely on imports which could either be blockaded, or just not made available could shut down the production of arms during that crisis. To wait for smelters to be built, could mean the war would be lost
 
GDViking said:
We were in the second largest economic collapse in history. We had the second slowest recovery in history, pretty much stands to reason doesn't it?
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No it doesn't considering the post recover growth should have been way higher.

Also we did it by building the economy, not creating an artificial bubble. I hat is why the economy is still growing. Trumps policies have not had any effect but when they do they will be disastrous.
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LOL they have had a great amount of effect.

2.2% isn't growth it is stagnation.
 
tres borrachos said:
Try reading the posts next time and keep your adoration for Trump in check.

I said - now read it again - the President shouldn't have unilateral powers to impose tariffs. Shouldn't. Should not have them.

You should probably learn to read posts before quoting them and making dumb comments like you just did.
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He would have to learn to read in context.
 
RAMOSS said:
And, that is what this bill is explicitly taking away.
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no it is was this bill i s trying to do.
This bill is a failure.

Even if it does survive the senate and the house it won't survive a veto vote.
McConnell already looks to table it.
 
RAMOSS said:
He would have to learn to read in context.
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I did. I gave her the links to educate her on why the situation is like it is.
again her complaints are nothing but trump but trump but trump.

These laws have been in existence and used for various purposes for year and years.

no outrage at all from any one when they are used even today.
until now and the only factor is Trump is president.

it is easily dismissed for what is obviously a sever case of TDS that people refuse to get under control.
 
ludin said:
I did. I gave her the links to educate her on why the situation is like it is.
again her complaints are nothing but trump but trump but trump.

These laws have been in existence and used for various purposes for year and years.

no outrage at all from any one when they are used even today.
until now and the only factor is Trump is president.

it is easily dismissed for what is obviously a sever case of TDS that people refuse to get under control.
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Well, that's because trump is abusing it. I notice, this is being done by fellow Republicans. THere are more Republican sponsers of the bill than democrates.

If a democrat was doing it, you would call for their head.
 
tres borrachos said:
Has there ever been a trade war that did end well for both parties? Granted I don't know all of them throughout history, but they never seem to have the net positive effect on the countries involved nor the global economy.
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I'm not sure there has ever been a trade war that has ended well for either party.
 
markjs said:
Where are the Trumplings and the shouts of RINO and Traitor? He's messing with the DULY ELECTED GOD EMPEROR!
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No, not a God, you are confusing him with the previous Deity that held the office.
 
ludin said:
please see the article i posted.
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The article is an opinion piece by an economist for the Economic Policy Institute, the most union labor friendly think tank in Washington. Just the same, let's look at the claims. He makes this statement:

Similarly, Bill Clinton claimed that NAFTA would create 200,000 jobs in its first two years and a million jobs in five years. Instead, between 1993 (before NAFTA) and 2013, the U.S. trade deficit with Mexico and Canada increased from $17 billion to $177.2 billion, displacing more than 850,000 U.S. jobs.
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Between 1993 and 2001, some 22 million new jobs were created in the United States. Poverty rates dropped to the lowest levels on record, and it is the only sustained period of median income growth for the last 40 years. Protectionism has been a disaster for us every time we tried it.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
The article is an opinion piece by an economist for the Economic Policy Institute, the most union labor friendly think tank in Washington. Just the same, let's look at the claims. He makes this statement:



Between 1993 and 2001, some 22 million new jobs were created in the United States. Poverty rates dropped to the lowest levels on record, and it is the only sustained period of median income growth for the last 40 years. Protectionism has been a disaster for us every time we tried it.
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your equating two separate things. he was looking at the effects of nafta it had huge impact on certain job.
then you shouldn't have a problem with the source.

almost 1m jobs were displaced.
 
ludin said:
your equating two separate things. he was looking at the effects of nafta it had huge impact on certain job.
then you shouldn't have a problem with the source.

almost 1m jobs were displaced.
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When are 1 million jobs not displaced over a 10 year period? Do you know happens when you never displace any workers in an economy? You get the 1970s though 1980s Soviet Union. Any dynamic economy will displace jobs. You will always have some jobs automated out of existence and other jobs that are off-shored or made redundant. In a dynamic economy those workers are then freed up to do more economically productive jobs. That is what happened in this country in the 80s and 90s. That is not a bad thing. Its also why we have safety-nets to make these transitions easier.

So yes, 1 million jobs were displaced (probably more than that), but at the same time over 22 million new jobs were created, and median household income went up every single year. That's a good thing on balance.
 
ludin said:
I did. I gave her the links to educate her on why the situation is like it is.
again her complaints are nothing but trump but trump but trump.

These laws have been in existence and used for various purposes for year and years.

no outrage at all from any one when they are used even today.
until now and the only factor is Trump is president.

it is easily dismissed for what is obviously a sever case of TDS that people refuse to get under control.
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Do you ever post anything coherent, mature, and worth time for an adult to read?

The only one with a "sever" case of TDS is you. Get it checked out, before you end up being like one of the Jonestown residents who wants the leader to have supreme power.

Your link didn't educate me at all. I knew what was happening long before you came in with your TDS infested fingers crying about trump and trump and trump.

See, I can post useless crap too?
 
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