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American Job Openings Now Outnumber the Jobless

Moon said:
True, but it could be a boon for qualified people looking for a new employer.
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Yes, definitely. I saw another statistic a few weeks ago that suggested that; voluntary job leaving.
 
lefty louie said:
But Trump is lying! He's a liar!

Who gives a rats ass if his lies are blatant, he gets results. They all lie folks, you just take exception to the in your face way he goes about it.

In your face!
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But he got two scoops of ice cream and that is Deplorable.

Oh and they were vanilla so its also racist.
 
Bullseye said:
All the reliable sources say the number of job openings hit a 17-year record
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Yes, that's how records work. Something can be a record, then get broken and still be a record. The economy was amazing three years ago, and nothing has changed. It's still on the exact same trajectory it was on three years ago. The only difference is that we're running completely unnecessary deficits today.

The economy is like a patient, and the government is like a doctor. Dr. Obama saved our dying economy back in 2009 and nursed it back to health over the course of his term. But now that it's healthy there's really nothing to be done. It will continue to grow on its own until someone ****s it up. Given enough time and meddling Trump will **** it up.
 
MrWonka said:
Yes, that's how records work. Something can be a record, then get broken and still be a record. The economy was amazing three years ago, and nothing has changed. It's still on the exact same trajectory it was on three years ago. The only difference is that we're running completely unnecessary deficits today.
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"the economy was amazing three years ago"? In what universe?

MrWonka said:
The economy is like a patient, and the government is like a doctor. Dr. Obama saved our dying economy back in 2009 and nursed it back to health over the course of his term. But now that it's healthy there's really nothing to be done. It will continue to grow on its own until someone ****s it up. Given enough time and meddling Trump will **** it up.
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Nonsense. The economy is basically self-healing. It was bottoming out when Obama took over and came turned up in early June. Compared to other recession recoveries his was the worst since WW II, including recessions that lasted just as long as his. He came in determined to forward his agenda and that included only lip service to improving the economy.
 
Kushinator said:
Is it pathetic to oppose deficit growth when unemployment is @ a record low?

I say that's more pathetic than any petty partisan bickering on the left. Reason being, deficit growth exceeds real gdp growth, debt does matter.
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It’s pathetic to pretend to give a **** about deficits when your history proves you don’t give a **** about deficits.


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VanceMack said:
It’s pathetic to pretend to give a **** about deficits when your history proves you don’t give a **** about deficits.
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Context is key. We should expect deficits to soar when the economy is weak, just as we should expect deficits to fall when the economy strengthens. There is absolutely ZERO excuse for deficit growth in an economy with less than 4% unemployment. It's not about opinion or blame. Of course, one must also possess a most basic understanding of macroeconomics to be able to identify this context.

So i pose a question: why wasn't the additional deficit growth of the past 3 years front ended during the financial and economic crisis? That's pathetic.
 
j-mac said:
Thank you President Trump
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He's done zero. Looked at the trends?
It's Obamas line continued.
Except he didn't inherit 750000 job losses a month.
Any comment on why 2017 job creation was less than 2016?
Jealous of his dragging his wife by the hair before raping her?
Iguess you don't know AMERICA FIRST was our WWII nazi group name either?
 
YorkshirePete said:
He's done zero. Looked at the trends?
It's Obamas line continued.
Except he didn't inherit 750000 job losses a month.
Any comment on why 2017 job creation was less than 2016?
Jealous of his dragging his wife by the hair before raping her?
Iguess you don't know AMERICA FIRST was our WWII nazi group name either?
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What in the name of God's green earth are you talking about?
 
Kushinator said:
Context is key. We should expect deficits to soar when the economy is weak, just as we should expect deficits to fall when the economy strengthens. There is absolutely ZERO excuse for deficit growth in an economy with less than 4% unemployment. It's not about opinion or blame. Of course, one must also possess a most basic understanding of macroeconomics to be able to identify this context.

So i pose a question: why wasn't the additional deficit growth of the past 3 years front ended during the financial and economic crisis? That's pathetic.
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It’s pathetic that people will go out of their way to justify a complete doubling of our entire accumulated national debt in a span of 8 years and pretend to give a **** about deficits NOW.

Pathetic.


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MrWonka said:
False. Obama got the results. Trump and Republicans are lying in order to take credit for them.
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Yes, that's why as soon as the election results were in the stock market took a major run up.
 
j-mac said:
Numbers and stats....No comparison to those businesses that experience a shortage of workers to get the job done...In that case business 101 dictates that wages rise to meet demand for workers...
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Or you can start a trade war and bring on a recession.
 
VanceMack said:
It’s pathetic that people will go out of their way to justify a complete doubling of our entire accumulated national debt in a span of 8 years and pretend to give a **** about deficits NOW.
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Your familiarity with the two situations, along with a your understanding of macroeconomics is what's pathetic.

Trump inherited an economy that continues (since 2011) to grow 2+ million additional jobs every year. Obama inherited an economy that had 800k+ monthly job losses. Deficit spending is necessary to bridge an output gap, and the one that occurred at the end of 2008 was the largest the U.S. (and the global economy) seen since the 1930's.

Ignorant....
 
Kushinator said:
Your familiarity with the two situations, along with a your understanding of macroeconomics is what's pathetic.

Trump inherited an economy that continues (since 2011) to grow 2+ million additional jobs every year. Obama inherited an economy that had 800k+ monthly job losses. Deficit spending is necessary to bridge an output gap, and the one that occurred at the end of 2008 was the largest the U.S. (and the global economy) seen since the 1930's.

Ignorant....
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Sounds impressive until it's compared to other post-recession recoveries that created million more jobs and employment and GDP growth back to pre-recession numbers months if not years faster than Obama.
 
MrWonka said:
False. Obama got the results. Trump and Republicans are lying in order to take credit for them.
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Yeah, he got "results" piss-poor results, the worst post recession results since WW II. He's the first President since WW II to not have even a SINGLE YEAR with GDP growth at 3% or above. EVEN Jimmy friggin' Carter did that.
 
Bullseye said:
Sounds impressive until it's compared to other post-recession recoveries that created million more jobs and employment and GDP growth back to pre-recession numbers months if not years faster than Obama.
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The severity of the financial and economic crisis is unlike anything that occurred in other recessions. There isn't denying this... it's simply a matter of fact.

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Bullseye said:
He's the first President since WW II to not have even a SINGLE YEAR with GDP growth at 3% or above. EVEN Jimmy friggin' Carter did that.
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That's what happens when your congress attempts to obstruct everything you do from the start. Remember, the GOP vowed to make Obama a single term President at the expense of the American people. We were losing 800k+ jobs per month, and they were calling for a balanced budget.

You are one of the ignorant masses.
 
Kushinator said:
The severity of the financial and economic crisis is unlike anything that occurred in other recessions. There isn't denying this... it's simply a matter of fact.

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excuses, excuses, excuses. You guys got endless excuses. In general, the worse the recession the strong the rebound. He screwed the pooch, accept it.
 
Kushinator said:
That's what happens when your congress attempts to obstruct everything you do from the start.
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except for his first two years, the time that should have been pivotal to recovery he had a virtual lock on both houses of Congress.

Kusninator said:
Remember, the GOP vowed to make Obama a single term President at the expense of the American people. [/Juquote]Total lie. There was never any mention of blocking Obama "at the expense of the American people". Just for fun how about telling us the last time the opposing party to an incoming President said "we want to make everything peachy-keen for the new President" Sure wasn't the Dems in 2017 was it.
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We were losing 800k+ jobs per month, and they were calling for a balanced budget.
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LOL, yeah for one month.

Kushinator said:
You are one of the ignorant masses.
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You are one of the mindless Obamadroids.
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Bullseye said:
excuses, excuses, excuses.
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Reality.

In general, the worse the recession the strong the rebound. He screwed the pooch, accept it.
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Look what happened during the Great Depression. At the time, Secretary of the Treasury Andrew Mellon advised President Hoover:
“Liquidate labor, liquidate stocks, liquidate the farmers, liquidate real estate.”
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And that's what happened. By the time the liquidation bottomed, unemployment was 25%. It wasn't until WWII that the U.S. recovered. That's the thing about financial crises, they are terribly painful and difficult to recover from.
 
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Bullseye said:
except for his first two years, the time that should have been pivotal to recovery he had a virtual lock on both houses of Congress.
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The labor market was in negative territory, which means it was continuing to shed jobs, for more than 2 years. It wasn't until quarter 1 2010 that we see sustained monthly job growth. This speaks to the severity of the great recession.

Total lie. There was never any mention of blocking Obama "at the expense of the American people". Just for fun how about telling us the last time the opposing party to an incoming President said "we want to make everything peachy-keen for the new President"
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The GOP established the political tactic of total opposition... they weren't called the party of no without reason. Suddenly, deficit spending is once again the way of the Republican party. Funny how that happens with a power shift.

Sure wasn't the Dems in 2017 was it.
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GOP set the precedent.
 
trouble13 said:
More jobs than workers forces wages to increase

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“More jobs than workers forces wages to increase”

I’ve yet to see statistics of any significant correlation of what you claim. But, if true, it’s the perfect time to increase the minimum wage. However, not a good time to grow the economy and create more jobs. There’s nobody out there to fill them and Trump wants to cut legal immigration by 50%. Oh well.
 
bluesmoke said:
“More jobs than workers forces wages to increase”

I’ve yet to see statistics of any significant correlation of what you claim. But, if true, it’s the perfect time to increase the minimum wage. However, not a good time to grow the economy and create more jobs. There’s nobody out there to fill them and Trump wants to cut legal immigration by 50%. Oh well.
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Yep, as usual it is the government's responsibility to tell a private employer what to pay their workers and forget about the market and competition doing it for them. That is pure ignorance of the private sector and pure promotion of govt. overreach. States can set their own minimum wage now so why is this a federal issue?
 
bluesmoke said:
“More jobs than workers forces wages to increase”

I’ve yet to see statistics of any significant correlation of what you claim. But, if true, it’s the perfect time to increase the minimum wage. However, not a good time to grow the economy and create more jobs. There’s nobody out there to fill them and Trump wants to cut legal immigration by 50%. Oh well.
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Minimum wage should be adjusted to match inflation not demand. Demand will drive wages up without a minimum wage increase. You are correct that wages have not risen as much as they should yet but they need time. They are lagging behind but as demand for labor increases they will increase. Right now I suspect overtime is allowing companies to keep their wages frozen but if the economy continues to grow overtime won't be enough they will need to attract more workers through better pay and/or benefits

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