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POLL: Majority of Trump voters would support him even if he colluded with Russia

Could be. It hasn't been proven yet anyway. Russian interference in the election, though, is a proven fact.
Was the 2016 election the only election that you believe that Russians attempted to "interfere" with?

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I think it's because the Russians are paying him to be here. LOL!

No amount of money could buy what Putin is getting from Trump. He has something on him and Trump has no choice but to follow his orders. He is getting paid too though. Cohen's slush fund is all Trumps.
 
Yes, and now that Trump is president, his supporters talk more about Obama and Clinton than Trump.

Why do you think that is?

Actually this Trump supporter talks more about the wicked witch of the east(Hillary Clinton) then "Hussein" Obama.
 
No amount of money could buy what Putin is getting from Trump. He has something on him and Trump has no choice but to follow his orders. He is getting paid too though. Cohen's slush fund is all Trumps.
CT is that way....>>>>>>>>

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Was the 2016 election the only election that you believe that Russians attempted to "interfere" with?

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With a willing candidate Yes.. It is unprecedented. There have been attempts in the past that have been rebuffed though. It takes an incredibly corrupt man like Trump to accept help from our biggest enemy in return for secret favors. But Trumps long history of corruption made him a perfect man for the job.

Trump White House Made Secret Efforts to Remove Russia Sanctions

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-adlai-stevenson-stopped-russian-interference-1960-election-180961681/
 
Yes, I'm aware of that. Thing is, people forget that he played by the rules to win electoral votes. California was already lost to him so he didn't try. California favored secretary Clinton by about 5 million votes. If Californian wasn't a state, Trump would have won by around 2 million votes.

This is exactly what the electoral vote system was design for. So a single large voting block couldn't determine an election.

Bingo!
 
How is it not true? I hear "the right" say all the time, that 'murica rejected the liberal agenda, when in fact, America voted for Hillary over Trump, and that is an indisputeable fact. Only because of the elctoral college, was TRump allowed a "victory". A victory for the Trump family, IMO, is looking potentially very bad for America, but ONLY time, can tell that.

America did not vote for Hillary. Come down from the clouds. We are a union of 50 states. Presidents are elected by way of the electoral college. Under the electoral college system, America voted for Trump. You lose.
 
OscarLevant;1068652592]poll numbers about 40%, or 41% according the the best source, Real Clear Politics, which averages. I believe Rassmussen poll should be taken out
of the average given that they poll landlines. When that is done, it is around 40%, lagging far behind other presidents at this juncture.

Likely voters is higher and those numbers were in the 30's not to long ago. they are rising because of results, results you are to full of hate to see. The economic numbers are benefiting the American people today regardless of the leftwing marketing

We've heard the "America First" cry, before. Check your history, it's nothing to be proud of. Trump is more of a politician than most politicians, except that unlike most politicians, he can barely utter a compound sentence.
The "wolf in sheep's clothing" is appropriate here. Huckster, conman extraordinaire. Sure, he doesn't take crap, just as demagogues, bullies and dictators don't take crap, but history shows us it never turns out well for them and their countries. Trump understands nothing, he knows the price of everything and the value of nothing, he's an empty suit and you've been conned.

Again, RESULTS MATTER and do not support your position but then results are something that doesn't resonate with you. Why don't you post the economic results that really bother you. I see nothing but your opinion created by a very leftwing media and a group of socialists

He wasn't vetted to the extent the Mueller investigation will vet him.

Sorry, don't see the issue here, been well over a year and more harm has been done to Comey and Clinton than Trump

He won with the help, the FBI, Putin, gerrymandered districts, voter suppression by repubs, and more importantly, above all these things, Interstate Crosscheck and a fluke of the electoral college system. Hillary's baggage didn't help, either. A stronger Dem candidate would have overcame these repub cheating ( as Obama did in 2008 and 2012 ) and there
was no way in hell Trump would have won, because of the very slim margin he took in the swing states.

Of course he won as apparently the propaganda which didn't sway you swayed enough to give him the vote. Really sad how poor you people are in civics and understanding. NO ballot boxes hacked, no votes changed, and the electoral system was created to prevent the population centers to elect the President. California was won by Hillary by 4 million votes and the state with the highest number in poverty, most homeless and ranked at the bottom of quality of life has no business electing our president and did so with the help of ILLEGALS AND THEIR LEGAL FAMILIES

He's doing only a small portion of what he said he will do, and what he is doing is bad for America.

That is your opinion but you spend way too much time here vs. actually doing research to verify what you are being told. He is doing exactly what he said he would do and the economic results show that

Joe Scarborough, Steve Schmidt, Nicolle Wallace, George Will, Shep Smith and others, are not the radical left, they are republicans far brighter than the hate mongering deluded and fact challenged right like Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, Dobbs, Pirro, et al. The radical left are persons like Caitlin Johnstone and no way do I listen to persons like that.

Keep posting the mainstream media that you want to believe who have for years been the elite and part of the problem. FACT, post results showing they are wrong in the others are wrong? you can't which makes you irrelevant along with them and they don't like it


At the time Forbes wrote the above quote, we didn't have tariffs and projected debt and deficits.

Trump's fiscal year began last Sept, and it's too soon to rely on "results". You are counting chickens
before the proverbial egg has hatched, and, in fact, you are hanging the weight of your argument on it.

Very weak argument, indeed.

Yep, very poor results, inheriting a 1.2% GDP, 9.4% U-6 and 19.9 trillion dollar debt. Guess you didn't see the April budget surplus which was the highest in history? Guess you don't get a paycheck thus have no idea about spendable income from the tax cuts. yes, my argument is full of facts thus weak to you

No president in recent history is a colossal scumbag as this president. He makes Bill Clinton look like the pope.

hatred is a terrible trait to have and not worthy of discussion
Oh, we do, very much so, you are not paying attention, but that's understandable because that's what Trump is good at: sucking up all the oxygen so the dem message is crowded out.

Then you shouldn't have any problems refuting my comments with actual verifiable results?
 
We didn't have 22 accusers for Obama, Reagan, Ford, Nixon, Bush one and 2, etc. Why would 22 women, many of whom are repubs, do this?

One, two or even three, and you might have a point, but 22? Not only do we have 22, they are accusing him of the very things he has bragged publicly about what he likes to do with women. Name one president?

I think the one living in fantasy land is you, in a place called "denial".

Is that the best you can do, character assassination? Where are those accusers now? they had their time in the sun but didn't raise the issue until Trump became a candidate, typical leftwing liberal October surprise that backfired. Seems the word was out before the election and yet Trump won.
 
No amount of money could buy what Putin is getting from Trump. He has something on him and Trump has no choice but to follow his orders. He is getting paid too though. Cohen's slush fund is all Trumps.

You are so right, a 3% US GDP, 3 plus million new jobs, more US military spending yet 143 million Russians are a problem for you?? Wow!!
 
And maybe that made sense, at one time, but does it today? If so, why?

Ofcourse it does today. The electoral college in effect prevented California from calling the shots in the 2016 election.
 
You are in a classic state of left wing denial. Trump won because he flipped the blue firewall states that Hillary took for granted. That was no fluke. And crooked Hillary did not help herself with statements like: "And we are going to put alot of coal miners out of business." The fluke was Hillary getting more popular votes...however that was only due to the Socialist Republic of California.

A fluke, by definition, is an unexpected win, or gain, or positive result.

Therefore, given that the vast majority consensus that Trump was going to lose, given where the popular vote was headed, that Trump won by a fluke of the electoral college system, is a true statement. True statements do not equal denial, they are the opposite of denial.

Vote tallies only have force in the aggregate, and separating a state from the total is specious logic. Remove any state or combinations of state and you can point to a different result, but to assert it as a meaningless statement.

As for what Churchill said about socialism, he was referring to totalitarian socialism. No one on the left is recommending it, and to do so is a strawman argument.
 
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My gawd, if you use specious logic like that, how credible are you on anything? A cursory look debunks that logic.

Why not say 'if we remove texas from the voting block' Hillary would have won by even more.

It's just as valid of a statement as the one you used. Jeezus frickin' keerist, tell me you are not that dumb.



Moot point, given previous statement. Besides, when it was designed, that wasn't true, so it's therefore not true.

At some point, you are going to have to learn to accept that the logic that counts is the logic of the brilliant men who founded this nation.....and the logic of the 13 colonies who were not about to ratify the US Constitution without the electoral college.
 
You have to admit, defending Trump is a very difficult task with only a very few facts to back you up. Desperation leads to bringing up Obama and Clinton.

The desperation is on your side. Trump is the president, The GOP controls both houses of congress as well as most of the state houses and most of the state governors. Nothing difficult to defend.
 
"If?" We already know he did collude with Russia (Russians acting on behalf of the Russian state). It's clear Trumpkins don't give a damn that he "colluded" with Russia. He's done it, that he has is clear and they don't care.

The truth is that it was the Hillary camp that colluded with Russia in an attempt to frame the Trump camp.
 
It seems that the only answer that lefties will accept IS collusion. We know for a fact that there was no collusion...if there were, does any clear thinking person believe that the evidence wouldn't have been leaked months ago?
 
Ahh, more confirmation on my principle that the Art Of The Con is to accuse others of the very thing the conman is guilty of.

Trump: Dems are responsible for our separating kids from families. ( many examples of this technique by Trump ).

And now you.

Thank you.

The Dems are responsible for separating kids from their families by encouraging those lawless caravans where those parents are dragging their kids along to the scene of where they are committing a crime. Or do you expect to put the kids in the jail cells with mommy and daddy?
 
We know for a fact that there was no collusion...

In what alternate universe?

if there were, does any clear thinking person believe that the evidence wouldn't have been leaked months ago?

Just because President Biff Tannen's administration leaks like a sieve doesn't mean every entity does.
 
If the preceding has any truth, is Trump any better? When you have people who will follow a politician like Trump who most likely did collude with the Russians to win the election, etc., what you have here is a cult. Look up the definition of a cult where the leader is worshiped and it matters not what the guy says or does. Trump loves his followers because they know they worship him. It matters not if possibly and eventually he takes them down with him. They will still love him as some Germans did with Hitler to his last days.

Is this your way of crying hysterically over the fact that Trump's supporters are not ditching him?
 
More rumors and innuendo, how about some facts?

Do you not remember the Putin non-retaliation?

It happened after Trump was elected and before he took office, and we know that members of his Campaign
and contact with Russia and Trump's incessantly lavished praise on Putin, plus the fact that Putin knows
that Trump is beholden to Russia for propping him up financially in the past when AMerican banks wouldn't
touch him..

I think it's quite clear that Putin believed the election of Trump would eventually lead to sanctions being
lifted ( noting that Trump kept sanctions unimplemented on his desk for a long time, though they were voted
on 98% by congress and senate ), etc etc etc. It was the entire reason Putin directed his minions to interfere
in the elections, because he perceived Trump equals the destabilization of the west, and that benefits Putin,
whether or not sanctions are ultimately implemented and we know that, but for congress and the senate, he would
definitely lift them.


Putin?s Masterstroke of Nonretaliation – Foreign Policy
 
Trump's rising poll numbers are the result of economic and foreign policy results. He is keeping his promise of "America First" and although I know that drives you crazy this is what America needed, a NON POLITICIAN who defends himself, who says what he believes, who isn't going to take crap from anyone, who understands the private sector and is not promoting class warfare.

Trump is a very flawed human being, who isn't. He has a checkered past that was vetted and he won the election in spite of the California loss by over 4 million votes. He is implementing a pro American economic policy and restoring our status in the world by doing exactly what he says he would do. You and the rest of the radical left are so used to buying rhetoric which you continue to do today, ignore official verifiable results, continue to focus on character flaws, but never coming up with any positive proposals of your own, only whining and complaining along with personal attacks.

Mature people discuss issues and if you have a problem with the results Trump generated that is one thing but your personal attacks are something else. Your double standard here is on full display as are the other radicals

You must understand that the democrats are not used to their targets fighting back. When they came of with the list of women Trump allegedly sexually harassed, they thought they had destroyed him. The next debate between Trump and Hillary was going to be a left wing victory dance. They did not expect the press conference featuring three of Bill Clinton's victims and one victim of Hillary. Their past came back to haunt them. They were gobsmacked that Trump used their own double standard against them.
 
Could be. It hasn't been proven yet anyway. Russian interference in the election, though, is a proven fact.

Russia has been attempting to interfere with our election s and those of Europe for decades, at least since the begin ning of the cold war. What's your point? "Hussein" Obama himself said there is no evidence that Russia managed to change any votes.
 
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