Secret FBI source for Russia investigation met with three Trump advisers during campaign

Mycroft said:

The name of this CIA operative was actually outed nearly two months ago in this article: Papadopoulos Met Cambridge Prof In London | The Daily Caller However, there was no real confirmation...until these stories, based on leaks from...someone.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/us/politics/trump-fbi-informant-russia-investigation.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.986c06d65d13

Now, think about it. These stories talk about how important it is for the identity of this operative to be kept secret...his very life is at stake...but then these stories give such exacting information about the man that everyone knows it's the person "suspected" of being the operative two month ago.

I think, if the DOJ/FBI want to go after someone for outing the Professor, they should start with the NYT and the WaPo...and their unnamed sources.

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ThoughtEx. said:

I like to think that every possibility is played out in an infinite number of worlds. Some a bit weirder than others, we're in a bizzaro world. Where people will actually see this behavior and rationalize it. They will think, "if there is no collusion, this fbi agent is in no danger. I know I'm right, so I'll disregard all caution and evidence and double down."

These people are douchebags, on a legendary level.

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code1211 said:

The problem is that this is a story with various occasions that seem to reek of entrapment.

The "crimes" being investigated may have been the result of elaborate conspiracies to set people up.

We'll know more when the IG report is issued.

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NeverTrumpGOP said:

Very interesting read from Washington Post. Now it looks like Swampy and Nunes teamed up to out an informant who aided our country in a proper counterintelligence investigation against a foreign power. They are fighting to release the informant's name but the FBI is in fear for his safety. Not just from disgruntled Swampy supporters but also of Putin. No Collusion my a**.



Washington Post | Secret FBI source for Russia investigation met with three Trump advisers during campaign

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Mycroft said:

Not sure who you are talking about.

The DOJ/FBI. They have all the info.

The people facing indictment. They have all the info.

The media. They got "some" of the info...from someone.

The FBI/DOJ have no motive to leak anything to the media. Heck, they don't even want to give anything to Congress.

The people facing indictment have every motive to give information to the media to set a narrative that'll help them fight what's coming...or so they think.

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roguenuke said:

Entrapment is a very specific thing. You would have to show that the person involved set the other up to do something that they wouldn't normally do except for the offers made by the person setting the situation up. From what I've read on this, there was no mention of the informant setting up meetings or deals for those who have so far been investigated to take in relation to getting info or working with Russia, only that they were gathering information on deals and events that had already happened or that might happen. That is not entrapment. That is merely gathering information. It is like placing an informant inside a mob family, whose entire job is to gather information, even if that means actually setting up meetings with people they might not have come into contact with by just observing events. So long as they are not "enticing" the person with doing something illegal, then there is no entrapment.

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NeverTrumpGOP said:

Very interesting read from Washington Post. Now it looks like Swampy and Nunes teamed up to out an informant who aided our country in a proper counterintelligence investigation against a foreign power.

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NeverTrumpGOP said:

They are fighting to release the informant's name but the FBI is in fear for his safety. Not just from disgruntled Swampy supporters but also of Putin. No Collusion my a**.

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Fenton said:

Lol !! It wasn't a Counter intelligence investigation against a " Foreign power ", it wasn't" " proper " either. The FBI ran a counter intelligence investigation against the Trump campaign, used the powers granted to the US Govt that are normally reserved for spying on foreign adversaries to spy on Obama's and Hillary's political adversaries.

Over 12 Obama era senior officials have either been demoted, fired, reassigned or forced to resign over this " proper " counter intelligence investigation



If the Media are so concerned about this spy's safety, then why did they out him ? The NYT's and WaPo both disclosed more information about this spy in less than a week than anyone else has since the election. If the NYTs readers still cant figure out who he was after reading the NYTs " Crossfire Hurricane " article, well then they're just slow.

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Fenton said:

Lol !! It wasn't a Counter intelligence investigation against a " Foreign power ", it wasn't" " proper " either. The FBI ran a counter intelligence investigation against the Trump campaign, used the powers granted to the US Govt that are normally reserved for spying on foreign adversaries to spy on Obama's and Hillary's political adversaries.

Over 12 Obama era senior officials have either been demoted, fired, reassigned or forced to resign over this " proper " counter intelligence investigation




If the Media are so concerned about this spy's safety, then why did they out him ? The NYT's and WaPo both disclosed more information about this spy in less than a week than anyone else has since the election. If the NYTs readers still cant figure out who he was after reading the NYTs " Crossfire Hurricane " article, well then they're just slow.

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code1211 said:

Obama did more than this. Much more. In this case, the guy is very likely a criminal operating in a conspiracy breaking real laws. "Unmasking" him will likely precede his prosecution.

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NeverTrumpGOP said:

WTF are you talking about? Implanting an FBI informant into a likely criminal operation (Swampy's campaign), doesn't make the informant a criminal operating in a conspiracy breaking real laws. Face it Trump got caught breaking laws.

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code1211 said:

What crimes has he been charged with have broken even today?

What crimes were being investigated at the time of the illegal spying conducted by the FBI on behalf of the party in power opposition party that commissioned the spying?

I'm seriously asking you to back up your assertions with actual real world facts.

Please proceed.

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NeverTrumpGOP said:

Just about everyone he has hired is under some type of investigation. Swampy Jr is not helping him. He likely colluded w/Russia, and has committed numerous crimes when trying to silence private female citizens from going to the media w/their stories about how much of a dirt bag he is. It's also likely that he got dirt on RNC official and used him as a proxy to cover up an abortion that he paid a playboy model for. Michael Cohen is a fixer who has done all types of shady sh** for Swampy. Swampy's business is text-book money laundering 101. He also lies and has spied on American people by harvesting their data so that he didn't have to pay for marketing. He has used his charity has a slush fund and never pays his bills until he is questioned about the payments. He has broken numerous campaign finance laws in the Stormy Daniels case. He ran various shady businesses as well as the most shady of them all being Trump U. Face it. He is NOT a good person.

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code1211 said:

The problem is that this is a story with various occasions that seem to reek of entrapment.

The "crimes" being investigated may have been the result of elaborate conspiracies to set people up.

We'll know more when the IG report is issued.

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roguenuke said:

Then the person to blame would be the "source" for the Daily Caller article, not the NYT or WaPo. That would be the person who "outed" the Professor by name. Based on simply the info in the NYT article (not paying for the WaPo one), the person could not have been even suspected without the Daily Caller article. Of course, without actual confirmation, then we really wouldn't know who the source is.

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DarkWizard12 said:

So why is it always been the FBI leaking to the media? James Comey, Andrew McCabe...all have been leaking to the media. It seems like they're the ones that want to set a narrative.

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NeverTrumpGOP said:

Just about everyone he has hired is under some type of investigation. Swampy Jr is not helping him. He likely colluded w/Russia, and has committed numerous crimes when trying to silence private female citizens from going to the media w/their stories about how much of a dirt bag he is. It's also likely that he got dirt on RNC official and used him as a proxy to cover up an abortion that he paid a playboy model for. Michael Cohen is a fixer who has done all types of shady sh** for Swampy. Swampy's business is text-book money laundering 101. He also lies and has spied on American people by harvesting their data so that he didn't have to pay for marketing. He has used his charity has a slush fund and never pays his bills until he is questioned about the payments. He has broken numerous campaign finance laws in the Stormy Daniels case. He ran various shady businesses as well as the most shady of them all being Trump U. Face it. He is NOT a good person.

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ThoughtEx. said:

only if you live in a very confined echo chamber, filled with white nationalist propaganda, would you ever think Trump would need to be entrapped. He's not very smart, he's not very honest, and he keeps admitting to doing the things we keep saying he's done.

If you think Donald Trump is being Entrapped, then I got some Maralago real estate I need to unload...

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danarhea said:

What makes your response so hilarious is that Trump is the one who hired Rosenstein. Rosenstein is the one who brought the axe down on Comey. Some buddies, right? LMAO.

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Mycroft said:

The daily caller article was speculation. They said they had no confirmation that Halper was working for the CIA/FBI/DOJ.

That confirmation came from the NYT and WaPo and their "unnnamed sources". These articles are the ones who outed the man.

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Trump’s tweets on Friday made it impossible for the press to continue holding back what they had. Given that the Daily Caller had already published a fair bit about these meetings and that the name was floating freely around the conservative media ecosystem and that the president himself—the person who is ultimately responsible for protecting the information—was now actively misrepresenting it to feed conspiracy theories, how could the Times keep quiet anymore? How can a major news organization withhold information to protect executive branch equities when the executive branch itself is not merely not protecting it but actively lying about that information at the highest levels for overtly political purposes?

And so the Times published. And the Post followed suit. In some ways, it’s amazing that both papers waited so long—and that they continued to withhold the name when they did so.

Donald Trump did not leak the name of an intelligence source, and the record is not at all clear that Devin Nunes or his staff did so either. But the record is entirely clear that both men behaved in a way that actively contributed to the outing of an informant.

What are the consequences when the president and the intelligence community leadership behave this way? The honest answer is that we don’t know. Something like this has never happened before. But it’s fair to say that there are profound risks at many levels.

Most immediately, there’s the risk to the source himself. That is presumably manageable. The FBI can presumably take the steps necessary to protect him, though probably not without significant disruption to his life.

The bigger problem may be the threat to those who have worked with the source in the past. The Post’s reporting makes clear that this is a first-order concern right now:

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The stakes are so high that the FBI has been working over the past two weeks to mitigate the potential damage if the source’s identity were revealed, according to several people familiar with the matter. The bureau took steps to protect other live investigations that he has worked on and sought to lessen any danger to associates if his identity became known, said these people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence operations.
For years, the professor has provided information to the FBI and the CIA, according to people familiar with the matter. He aided the Russia investigation both before and after special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s appointment in May 2017, according to people with knowledge of his activities.

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As a conservative lawyer, who at one point considered taking a job in the administration and still has close ties to it said to one of us last night: “All this man [the source] wanted to do was to help our country. And this was a legitimate counterintelligence inquiry with more than an adequate foundation and a perfectly appropriate method. Trump and Nunes have defiled the oaths they took. It’s just obscene.”

While we were preparing to publish this piece, the president dug in further, tweeting:
Donald J Trump
@realDonaldTrump
f the FBI or DOJ was infiltrating a campaign for the benefit of another campaign, that is a really big deal. Only the release or review of documents that the House Intelligence Committee (also, Senate Judiciary) is asking for can give the conclusive answers. Drain the Swamp!

5:27 PM - May 19, 2018

Don’t underestimate this episode. It will have a long tail and big consequences—all of them terrible. - Lawfare Blog The Day that We Can't Protect Human Sources': The President and the House Intelligence Committee Burn an Informant

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Fletch said:

I want to know his name. Why dont you?

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