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LIVE COVERAGE: Active shooter in custody at Santa Fe HS***[W:13]***[W:1213]

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apdst said:
That's exactly why I want my guns.
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So you want guns because you don’t trust people who have possible access to guns?
 
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Manc Skipper said:
By denying any and all regulation, you give them guns.
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Have you been paying any attention?
 
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Higgins86 said:
So you want guns because you don’t trust people who have possible access to guns?
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Exactly.

Think about it. Drugs are illegal. Do people still buy them?

Those drugs come from where? Mexico, Central America?

Ban guns in The United States. How long before the cartels, with their billions of dollars, set up machine shops to build guns and smuggle them into The United States? Who will buy those guns? Criminals. Right?

What are two of the Left's biggest wet dreams? A ban on gun ownership and open borders. Right?

Yeah, **** that...I want my guns.
 
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apdst said:
The only conversation they want to start is one about how to ban gun ownership.
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So what conversation would you start?
Listen up. You identify a problem. You deal with the problem by being proactive or reactive. Or both. Proactive means you try to head off the problem before it happens, reactive means you prepare to deal with it when it arises. Both need you to first identify the problem.
So, what's the problem? What conversation would you start?
 
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Grand Mal said:
So what conversation would you start?
Listen up. You identify a problem. You deal with the problem by being proactive or reactive. Or both. Proactive means you try to head off the problem before it happens, reactive means you prepare to deal with it when it arises. Both need you to first identify the problem.
So, what's the problem? What conversation would you start?
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Tighten security at our schoolhouses.
 
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apdst said:
Tighten security at our schoolhouses.
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That's you identifying the problem? Are you sure you're not just making the problem happen somewhere else, somewhere other than schools?
 
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Grand Mal said:
That's you identifying the problem? Are you sure you're not just making the problem happen somewhere else, somewhere other than schools?
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That's me identifying the solution.

Like where?
 
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apdst said:
That's me identifying the solution.

Like where?
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Solution? Armed guards standing outside a school, hearing the gunfire in the building and doing nothing, and the shooter going out to the mall to grab a soda, that's part of the solution?
Here's my take. The problem is your society is producing psycho killers and allowing them access to whatever weapons they think suits their purpose. The solution needs two things to happen- find out why so many psycho killers are being produced and find a way to stop them aquiring weapons.
How does that sit with you?
 
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apdst said:
Exactly.

Think about it. Drugs are illegal. Do people still buy them?

Those drugs come from where? Mexico, Central America?

Ban guns in The United States. How long before the cartels, with their billions of dollars, set up machine shops to build guns and smuggle them into The United States? Who will buy those guns? Criminals. Right?

What are two of the Left's biggest wet dreams? A ban on gun ownership and open borders. Right?

Yeah, **** that...I want my guns.
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I agree with you that banning guns in the US wouldn’t work at this point. I guess maybe the US is too far gone for the kind of gun control that has worked in other countries. As much as I hate to say it maybe armed guards in your schools is a solution at this point. Nether side is willing to budge meanwhile kids keep dying,probably time for ppl to compromise.
 
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Renae said:
I was referring to the political activities of the parkland students, used by people with an agenda. I found it shameful really.
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That is one of the most deplorable comments I have ever heard you make, Renae. It would be no worse of me to accuse you of wishing that the Parkland students had all died.
 
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Bucky said:
Steve is right. Certain posters only show up during gun massacres. They are essentially crisis posters. They use the deaths of a few kids to boloviate and reinforce their position.

Today, kids are a lot weaker physically, mentally, and psychologically than their parents. I call these bad millennial parenting.

Many kids today are ill prepared for the real world. Even more so than before.
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How 'bout you show them how to man up by literally placing yourself in the line of fire. Wait, what's that? Your body can't take bullets, either?

Yeah. Take your disgusting victim-blaming elsewhere.
 
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JMR said:
I'm not sure as a private citizen what you should do. It seems to me though that teachers should be passing that information on to higher authorities. I would be alarmed if a child's friend was wearing such a shirt. Parents and relatives should take notice and hopefully direct the person to appropriate counseling and treatment. The least we can do I suppose is be a alarmed, and not ignore such behavior. I don't think healthy children wear such statements.
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Like I told Lursa, Born To Kill was both the name of a movie made in the 1940s, and a 4 part miniseries that aired in England last year (very successfully). So if I saw a kid wearing a short that said that on it, I wouldn't automatically assume he's a psycho killer and call the school.

I think you need a lot more than a tee shirt to bring your kid to counseling and treatment.

"What has he done? Has he set fires? Hurt animals? Stolen things? Broken things? Threatened anyone? Lied? Gotten in trouble in school? Is he addicted to anything?"
"He wore a shirt that said Born To Kill!"
"Okay, what else?"
"Nothing! He wore the shirt!"

Not sure how well that would go over.
 
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tres borrachos said:
I meant what I said. That is a lot of people needed if the answer is putting multiple resource officers at all schools.

Not sure what was confusing about my post. It never mentioned expense, and never implied expense.
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To my eyes, it appeared you were saying adding security isn't a viable solution because of the number of people needed, which of course would also be a large expense.

I guess you were just stating the obvious, instead of commenting on the post that you quoted. My bad.
 
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Higgins86 said:
I agree with you that banning guns in the US wouldn’t work at this point. I guess maybe the US is too far gone for the kind of gun control that has worked in other countries. As much as I hate to say it maybe armed guards in your schools is a solution at this point. Nether side is willing to budge meanwhile kids keep dying,probably time for ppl to compromise.
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Those countries don't share a border with a Third World country.
 
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Grand Mal said:
Solution? Armed guards standing outside a school, hearing the gunfire in the building and doing nothing, and the shooter going out to the mall to grab a soda, that's part of the solution?
Here's my take. The problem is your society is producing psycho killers and allowing them access to whatever weapons they think suits their purpose. The solution needs two things to happen- find out why so many psycho killers are being produced and find a way to stop them aquiring weapons.
How does that sit with you?
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Oh, "our society", huh? It didn't take long for the bigotry to start.
 
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apdst said:
That might work, if not for the fact that this kid didn't throw up any red flags; not even in hindsight.
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They haven't had time to find out anything yet. Why give up so quickly? Hindsight takes time to research.
 
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apdst said:
Those countries don't share a border with a Third World country.
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That has nothing to do with school shootings. It is an internal problem in the US that some kids turn to violence directed at schools.
 
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Screw everybody. We need guns to protect us from the tyranny of our gov'ment...our children are disposable but not our guns.
 
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Here we are again and, we are talking about banning guns. How about we focus on the person who uses the gun. If we ban guns which is every liberal's dream if liberals figure how to enforce it. What would happen when stabbings are on the rise? ban knives? Ban anything that would be used as a deadly weapon? would you wake up and start talking about mental health! Honestly what would you guys say if I told you that i have Cerebral palsy and, i am giving you people a different view on how to approach this. geez! you had a ban in the Brady bill in 1993 and then you have U.S. Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 that expired in 2004 . how exactly did that worked for us? please educate me on that
 
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Phys251 said:
That's not your decision. Remember Stoneman Douglas High? Those young men and women were becoming politically active before they could even escape the school building.

So spare us your faux outrage, and try to pretend that childrens' lives matter.
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FYI Phys251, you throw a tantrum for a kid wearing a born to kill t-shirt, but what about all the kids wearing Che Guevara t-shirts?
 
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Phys251 said:
That is one of the most deplorable comments I have ever heard you make, Renae. It would be no worse of me to accuse you of wishing that the Parkland students had all died.
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You think kids in a moment of emotional vulnerability to be used for a political cause you believe in is a good thing, hey I get it, it's the results that matter right?
 
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TheRepublican said:
Here we are again and, we are talking about banning guns. How about we focus on the person who uses the gun. If we ban guns which is every liberal's dream if liberals figure how to enforce it. What would happen when stabbings are on the rise? ban knives? Ban anything that would be used as a deadly weapon? would you wake up and start talking about mental health! Honestly what would you guys say if I told you that i have Cerebral palsy and, i am giving you people a different view on how to approach this. geez! you had a ban in the Brady bill in 1993 and then you have U.S. Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 that expired in 2004 . how exactly did that worked for us? please educate me on that
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I would agree but someone from your side of the issue said he wanted to mandate kids being required to hold ak47s. Do you agree minors should be required to hold ak47s in schools?
 
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